Bug repellant?

[Catrin]

It is getting to be that time of the year, and with the very wet spring there are/will be a lot of insects especially on the trails. Do you have a favorite insect repellant?

[Owlie]

DBF--Mosquitoes love him! They don't like me very much (I'm not tasty, apparently), but they'll bite if I'm the only thing around. :D

I'll see what my mom uses (they like her) during yard work and get back to you. :)

[Jolt]

I like Repel Lemon Eucalyptus--prefer not to use DEET and have found that this stuff is pretty good.

[OakLeaf]

Bite Blocker (http://www.biteblocker.com/). Works as well as DEET, doesn't melt your clothes, smells tolerable, no scary ingredients.

If I'm in a room with 200 other people and one mosquito, it will bite me. Not with that stuff on. :)

[goldfinch]

I live in mosquito and tick country in the summer. I use anything with DEET of at least, at a minimum, of 25% and preferably 30%. It is a waste of DEET to go to the super high percentages. Given the prevalence of Lyme disease in my area I stick with the DEET products.

[TsPoet]

Tons of studies have shown that DEET works. An equal number of studies have shown that nothing else does.
DEET me, baby.

[OakLeaf]

Have you guys tried Bite Blocker (soybean oil and geraniol based)? It works. I don't work for them. I just use it, and I am serious mosquito bait.

I'm well aware that citronella, B-vitamins, pennyroyal, and who-knows-what-else don't really work. I've tried them all. Bite Blocker works. (What I haven't actually tried is plain ol' soybean oil from the grocery store, which would probably be a lot cheaper - I might have to try it one afternoon in my garden, just to see.)

Higher concentrations of DEET don't protect better, they just protect longer. IOW, DEET works to a certain extent, you're either at an effective "dose" or you aren't, and the concentration is only about the half-life. Bite Blocker prevents bites as well as DEET for about an hour and a half (http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa011699#t=article) between applications - which admittedly is equivalent to only about 5% DEET. OTOH, it's about how often you're supposed to reapply sunblock, so you can do both at the same time.

Having to carry a bottle of repellent along with me for longer excursions is a small price to pay IMO for not having to worry about damaging the plastic bag that protects my phone and car key ... my phone or car key itself ... my clothes ... my bike computer ... my kayak ... or even possibly the resins that hold my carbon frame together. :eek:

That's not even getting into the health issues, which I know some people dispute - there is NO dispute that DEET damages plastic (never mind any potential health effects of the products of that plastic breakdown, which have never been studied AFAIK).

[TsPoet]

Bite Blocker works. (What I haven't actually tried is plain ol' soybean oil from the grocery store, which would probably be a lot cheaper - I might have to try it one afternoon in my garden, just to see.)


I'll have to look into it. For me, it isn't mosquitoes (they don't like me all that much), it's ticks. We have tons of ticks around here and I walk my dogs every day. 1.5 hr protection would be perfect for a dog walk, as long as it repels ticks.

this isn't a truly scientific test, but interesting nonetheless
http://www.slate.com/id/2123291/

[malkin]

I tuck in behind Brewer on the tandem. He eats bugs the whole ride and ends up with gnats tangled all in his arm hairs while I am almost completely bug free. Shhhhhh, don't tell!

[goldfinch]

Even though I stick with DEET it does look like eucalyptus oil may be pretty good alternative, if you aren't sensitive to the oil. I would really like to see some good research on ticks though as Lyme disease is such a growing problem.

[Crankin]

I use stuff with DEET; wouldn't mind trying the bite blocker, but I have tried the other alternatives and nothing works.
We've had quite a few cases of triple E in MA over the last few years and I live in the heart of tick country. In fact, the daughter of one of the men in my cycling group just died from horrible complications of Lyme Disease.

[OakLeaf]

Oh, man, I'm so sorry about your friend's daughter. :( Bite Blocker claims to repel ticks, but I don't know if it's been tested. I usually only see a couple-three ticks a week in season anyway, so I can't really speak from experience. But they're saying deer ticks are becoming more prevalent in my area.

It's easy enough to check myself for ticks before and in the shower every day - I keep reading that a tick has to be embedded for at least 24 hours to transmit Lyme (the CDC actually says 36-48 hours) - but I don't know what I'd do if I had a child. Toxic chemicals, invasive inspections or risk of deadly disease. :(:(

[7rider]

It is getting to be that time of the year, and with the very wet spring there are/will be a lot of insects especially on the trails. Do you have a favorite insect repellant?

Ride faster.

Outrun the little buggers. :cool:

[Catrin]

Ride faster.

Outrun the little buggers. :cool:

giggle :)

[Owlie]

Have you guys tried Bite Blocker (soybean oil and geraniol based)? It works. I don't work for them. I just use it, and I am serious mosquito bait.

I'm well aware that citronella, B-vitamins, pennyroyal, and who-knows-what-else don't really work. I've tried them all. Bite Blocker works. (What I haven't actually tried is plain ol' soybean oil from the grocery store, which would probably be a lot cheaper - I might have to try it one afternoon in my garden, just to see.)

Higher concentrations of DEET don't protect better, they just protect longer. IOW, DEET works to a certain extent, you're either at an effective "dose" or you aren't, and the concentration is only about the half-life. Bite Blocker prevents bites as well as DEET for about an hour and a half (http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa011699#t=article) between applications - which admittedly is equivalent to only about 5% DEET. OTOH, it's about how often you're supposed to reapply sunblock, so you can do both at the same time.

Having to carry a bottle of repellent along with me for longer excursions is a small price to pay IMO for not having to worry about damaging the plastic bag that protects my phone and car key ... my phone or car key itself ... my clothes ... my bike computer ... my kayak ... or even possibly the resins that hold my carbon frame together. :eek:

That's not even getting into the health issues, which I know some people dispute - there is NO dispute that DEET damages plastic (never mind any potential health effects of the products of that plastic breakdown, which have never been studied AFAIK).

Go ahead and try it in case I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure any bug-repelling abilities come from the geraniol--it's a major component of citronella oil--and the soybean oil is just a carrier.

I finally found the stuff my mom uses. It's based on lemon eucalyptus extract. I think the brand is Cutter, and I have no idea how well it works.
I really should look at tick repellant. My hair is really thick, so it's not terribly easy for them to get at my scalp (and the rest of me is pretty easy to search for them), but if they manage to get there, it'll be next to impossible to find them.

[OakLeaf]

My hair is really thick, so it's not terribly easy for them to get at my scalp (and the rest of me is pretty easy to search for them), but if they manage to get there, it'll be next to impossible to find them.

My hair's really thick, too. I check by touch - when I wash my hair, and sometimes more often. Who doesn't like a nice scalp massage? :)

[Catrin]

Badger now has a combined sun screen + insect repellant (http://www.badgerbalm.com/p-466-spf30-sunscreen-anti-bug-insect-repellent.aspx)....hmmmm..

[goldfinch]

A couple people I know who got Lyme disease didn't even know they had a tick. The nymph stage tick is pinhead size and is responsible for most Lyme cases. :(