Is homicide justifiable...

[owlice]

... if the neighbor's music is REALLY loud and REALLY obnoxious and they do this ENTIRELY too much?

Please?

[Trek420]

Maybe if it's polka :p but if you think your neighbors are loud now just wait. I hear it's really loud in jail. :rolleyes: ;)

[jessmarimba]

Are they singing along to it but don't know the words and can't carry a tune? Maybe your neighbor and my neighbor should get together and party somewhere.:D

[Kitsune06]

Are they singing along to it but don't know the words and can't carry a tune? Maybe your neighbor and my neighbor should get together and party somewhere.:D

omg, are you my neighbor? :eek:


:p

[ClockworkOrange]

Maybe when they do go out, quickly squirt some Super Glue in the keyhole to front and back doors then they can't get in. :eek:

OK it won't stop them permanently but it will be fun watching and meanwhile it will be quiet.

[Mr. Bloom]

... if the neighbor's music is REALLY loud and REALLY obnoxious and they do this ENTIRELY too much?

Please?

Not when you post the question on a public forum...a publicly stated motive and evidence of premeditation removes any semblance of justification;)

I like the glue in the keyhole idea:D

[Aggie_Ama]

I feel for you, our last apartment the guy was the mid shift manager at McDonald's so he slept most of the day. He would come home middle of the night and blare music. No amount of complaining to the horrible management did anything. Finally one night I could tell they had underage drinking and called the local cops to report that and the noise. They didn't do it the rest of the 4-5 months we lived there. Justice in my book and I didn't get a ticket or jail!

[zoom-zoom]

Years ago we were in a duplex with neighbors who were noisy...they had little lowered cars that they liked to rev (seriously, revving a 4-banger on a Tracker and a Cavalier is just sad, people). They also liked to play their thumping bass music in the wee hours. We were suspicious that they'd be trouble when our landlord was showing them the unit and they arrived with their vehicles with big stickers that said "Baby Boom" across the top of the windshield.

What made matters worse is that this couple had a little boy...couldn't have been more than 2.5. They would drive around with him STANDING on the front passenger floor. We should have called CPS.

Fortunately they only lived there for a few months. Apparently they stopped payment on their 2nd or 3rd month's rent, so they were evicted. Phew!

[Biciclista]

I feel for you, our last apartment the guy was the mid shift manager at McDonald's so he slept most of the day. He would come home middle of the night and blare music. No amount of complaining to the horrible management did anything. Finally one night I could tell they had underage drinking and called the local cops to report that and the noise. They didn't do it the rest of the 4-5 months we lived there. Justice in my book and I didn't get a ticket or jail!

I wanna know how you knew they had underage drinking! :confused:

[bmccasland]

I found bag pipe music at 6:00 AM a great recourse. Nothing like the pipes to get one stirring in the morning. I was awake and thought I'd share the joy.

Owlice - have you tried calling the cops? Is there an noise ordance where you live? If it continues after 10 or 12 the cops might be able to do something.

[owlice]

I have the cops on speed dial... they rarely do anything unless it's after 11 PM. Yes, we have a noise ordinance (though noise ordance sounds like a better idea to me!!), but it is rarely enforced during daylight hours, even if the music is coming from the next block (which has/does happen).

I don't do it after dark, but I have been known to put speakers in my window and crank up some of the modern classical music I have (which many people don't even classify as music). Four minutes of that has always done the trick. I hate to resort to that, but have when I just couldn't take it any more!

(You'd think these people would get a clue, wouldn't you, that the entire neighborhood can hear their music and it isn't appreciated? But noooooooo! They need to be reminded over and over and over and over again!)

Trek, polka would be an improvement, believe me!!

[bmccasland]

Maybe they're a tad deaf. Sat too close to concert speakers a few times too many.

[Mr. Bloom]

I found bag pipe music at 6:00 AM a great recourse.

I LOVE BAGPIPES!:D:cool:

[zoom-zoom]

I LOVE BAGPIPES!:D:cool:

Me too...and accordion. Instruments detested by many.

[Aggie_Ama]

I wanna know how you knew they had underage drinking! :confused:

Saw the alcohol unloaded plus the kids entering the apartment had "senior" stickers from the current year and local high school on the cars they got out of. Unless they were 21 year old seniors. It was worth it for a good night's sleep.

[Owlie]

I feel for you. Our upstairs neighbors play loud, mostly terrible music (often the same song over and over) late at night. I've smelled marijuana from their apartment on more than one occasion, and let's not talk about the 4AM drunken party involving running from one end of the building to the other. They also seem incapable of doing anything quietly.

Only one more week of these people...

[owlice]

Me too...and accordion. Instruments detested by many.
Me three for bagpipes and accordion, and I'm thrilled to see accordion spelled correctly, as it so often isn't! Wahoo and thanks!

It's apparently a party weekend for them, as they had music playing last night and they have music -- really loud music -- playing now and there are a few balloons about. Sometimes my walking down to the bottom of my driveway to stare up the street at their house inspires them to turn it down, especially if I appear to be taking video and/or making a phone call while I do this.

No such luck today.

Maybe I should get some sidewalk chalk and write on the street in front of their house:


THE PARTY IS HERE -->
NOT INVITED: CVS SELLS EARPLUGS
INVITED: HEARING AIDS ARE AVAILABLE FROM YOUR DOCTOR

[jessmarimba]

I was just thinking about this thread. My other neighbors are having a party today - thankfully this group didn't hire a DJ like last time, but what sort of parent lets their under 10-year-old children scream at the top of their lungs in the front yard at 11 o'clock at night?

*sigh*

time for another beer...

[owlice]

The kind who are doing the same thing at that hour with their children, as evidenced by the goings-on up the street last night...

It would probably be rude of me to drive up the street, park in front of the house of offenders, and listen to opera -- soprano arias, perhaps -- or maybe better, music by Steve Reich (http://www.stevereich.com/multimedia/M18M_1976.mp3) at top volume with the windows down, wouldn't it? (I like Reich WAY better than I do most soprano arias.)

jessmarimba, I'm sorry about your neighbors. :-( I hope they calmed down sooner rather than later.

[jessmarimba]

Haha - after two beers, I was able to sleep through it.

Thing is, this wasn't an adults-party, this was a little kids princess birthday party....that just happened to go until midnight. Mom and dad look a little hungover cleaning up the yard this morning!

[OakLeaf]

It would probably be rude of me to drive up the street, park in front of the house of offenders, and listen to opera -- soprano arias, perhaps -- or maybe better, music by Steve Reich (http://www.stevereich.com/multimedia/M18M_1976.mp3) at top volume with the windows down, wouldn't it?

How about yodeling (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MhgnMX73Pw)?

[m.eliza]

I feel your pain. We're going through the same thing right now with new downstairs neighbors. Sometimes I like to get up for early morning rides and put on my cycling shoes before breakfast so I can clomp around in my cleats for a little bit while they sleep off their hangovers.

Is that passive-aggressive?

[tangentgirl]

This is a historic moment, ladies. One day you will look back on this thread and remember the start of the Team Estrogen Bagpipe-Accordion Bicycle Yodelers.

With hits like "On Your Left," "Dear So & So" and "Daddy was a Fred," TEBABY will be unstoppable.

Two-wheeled world tour, anyone?

[nancielle]

... but what sort of parent lets their under 10-year-old children scream at the top of their lungs in the front yard at 11 o'clock at night?...

The ones who live downstairs from me. :( :mad:




TEBABY will be unstoppable.

I want this on a shirt!

[Jolt]

Me too...and accordion. Instruments detested by many.

Same here. :)

[jessmarimba]

I volunteer to play recorder. This sounds like an awesome idea.

[Tri Girl]

the recorder: hell's little joke at a musical instrument. When the 3rd graders start playing them at school the noise is... lovely??? :confused: LOL

[Xrayted]

Our newest neighbors across the way like to have late night drunken parties, yelling and hooting and hollering. One time they took to climbing up on our balcony to "save" our cat who likes to walk around on the roof exploring. Kit let them go for a bit and then shook the treat bag. Kitteh "rescued himself" in less than a minute. :rolleyes:

The people on the backside of the building have a small child who spends the morning screeching at the top of her voice while banging on the side of the building with what seems to sound much like a 2x4 board. :mad::mad: It went on for weeks till I opened up the bathroom window and yelled "shut up!". It's been quieter in the mornings now. Either that or I'm just sleeping through it better. :rolleyes:

Out by our unattached garage, there is a woman who got drunk and yelled out the window at Kitsune. Interesting conversation actually. She started off insulting Kit and then it turned into her wanting to have sex for $$. :confused: (the woman, not Kit :p) Then I walked out to the garage and told the woman to "shut the &*ll up". Not a peep after that. :rolleyes:

We are moving in July to a nice brick triplex in a residential neighborhood with a large maple out front, cedar in the back and a creek at the back edge of the property with a paved bike/walking path winding through the woods on the other side of it. The bike path follows the creek the whole way over to the next town and stops just short of our favorite breakfast diner. Oh yeah. :D:D:cool: The neighborhood seems quiet and I've already checked the local police neighborhood map. Our current place - bright red. The new place - light yellow. That's a good thing. :D

[owlice]

the recorder: hell's little joke at a musical instrument. When the 3rd graders start playing them at school the noise is... lovely??? :confused: LOL
I learned recorder in 5th grade, and currently have sopranini (doubles as a dog whistle), soprano, and alto recorders. Actually, two sopranos.

Which reminds me of a joke:

How do you tell if a Wagnerian soprano is dead?

The horses seem very relieved.

~~~~~~~

TEBABY! tangentgirl, you totally cracked me up with your brainstorm! Count me in!

[jamijo]

the recorder: hell's little joke at a musical instrument. When the 3rd graders start playing them at school the noise is... lovely??? :confused: LOL

I got to start 3rd graders on flutophones during my student teaching (yay music education degree!)... I would have much, much, much rather had them on recorders! Flutophone mouthpieces can be removed to be amazingly loud whistles -- hey, I wonder if it would work to alert those joggers who are oblivious to the world with their i-pods as they run down the middle of the shared-use path that there just MIGHT be someone behind them that would like to pass... :D

[ny biker]

I can't believe I haven't posted to this thread yet. I live in a second floor condo in an old 3-story building. The women who owns the place upstairs is an out-of-state landlord. After living there for a couple of years, she moved away to get married but would lose money if she sold it so she rents it out.

The first tenant was great. Very quiet. Even her dog was quiet. Then she moved out of state to live with her boyfriend.

The one who moved in a few months ago is a nightmare. She's a petite little thing, but she walks like an elephant. Stomp stomp stomp all over my ceiling. I hate her.

When she first moved in, she also played music too loud. The first and only time I met her was when I had to go upstairs at 8 am on a Saturday to ask her to turn it down. Even with a white noise machine and a pillow over my head, I could still hear the damn stereo.

She doesn't play the stereo much anymore -- if she does, I'm prepared to retaliate with Led Zeppelin. Physical Graffiti, baby. But the stomping continues to drive me crazy. And she keeps weird hours, too. I hate her.

She has a boyfriend so I'm hoping she leaves to move in with him when her lease is up.

BTW this is not the first time I've had a petite elephant-walker living upstairs. Before the current owner moved in, the woman who had the place was tiny and skinnny but walked like a sumo wrestler. I swear she did laps around the bedroom every morning at 5 am. And it's not a large room, so I can't imagine why she was stomping around so much.

The white noise machine masks a lot of noises and I would get no sleep without it. I got it back when I rented a condo near here, and I had downstairs neighbors who liked to sit up talking all night long in the room below my bedroom. It was like living with Charlie Brown's teacher -- wah wah wah, wah wah wah wah wah. I had a co-worker who was a light sleeper and he recommended the white noise machine. It was a life-saver -- it even masks the helicopters that fly low overhead sometimes. Sadly it does not let me tune out everything, and it doesn't help when I'm just trying to have a quiet evening hanging out in front of the TV.

[jessmarimba]

Oooh we had one of those once. A petite elephant walker - turned out this girl lived in stilettos and hooker boots. (We were pretty close to a college campus). She would stay out til all hours on Saturday night, then get up to go to church with her family at 6am on Sunday.

One Sunday morning, after hearing her stomp around for about an hour, we hear STOMP STOMP Thudthudthudthudthuthud, followed by a tirade that would've had her pastor in tears. Guess stilettos aren't good for stomping down stairs!

[bmccasland]

Y'all are making me think twice about getting a condo or a townhouse. But then I currently live adjacent to a freeway. :o

I have decided that I don't want a yard to take care of, which is why I've been thinking condo or townhouse.

[Jolt]

All the stories about loud upstairs neighbors remind me of when, in the place I lived before moving here to Maine, my roommate and I had guys upstairs who stomped around so loudly that we started referring to them as "the hungry hippos"!

[Jolt]

For those who like the accordion, these ladies are quite talented!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H19Z-3mtzQ0

The break-dancing guy is pretty cool too.

[owlice]

Jolt, thanks for that. I enjoyed that and followed related links until I came upon this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvFuouS7QgY

Remarkably good, and they are all students!

[owlice]

Saturday, I did call the police, once before dark, and again just past 11. The later call, I was queued to talk to someone for 30 minutes (! non-emergency number), and while I waited, I typed the beginning of an email to the county executive, and finished it after I talked to the dispatcher.

I then walked up the street and let the neighbors know I'd called the police. They were not happy about that.

Probably less happy today. I had three phone calls yesterday from the police sargeant who handles public nuisances, an email from someone else in authority before that, and today, a call from an officer who talked to someone at the property today; this officer says he's going back, too, to talk to them again later today or tomorrow.

The power of email!

[Crankin]

Before I moved to MA, we sold our house 6 months before we left and rented an apartment, maybe a mile from our old house. After about 2 months, everyday when I came home from work and picking up my kids, I started hearing loud music. I really didn't know anyone who lived in the place, but then I started seeing a teenage girl and her boyfriend going directly upstairs from me. Of course, it stopped when her mom got home, and everyday I forgot about it until the next. It got so bad that I started throwing balls on the ceiling and pounding the ceiling with a broom. Even my 5 and 7 year old were helping me. Then, one day, the mom came home early and heard what was going on. She came down and knocked on my door and apologized profusely.
I learned that next time, go and say something immediately!

[owlice]

I fear I made the neighbors unhappy (again). There they were, having fun racing up and down the street on a very noisy unlicensed/untagged motorcycle, no helmets in sight (required in Maryland), all happy on a Sunday afternoon, some of the guys awaiting their turn. I guess they didn't like me (pretending to) video record(ing) their little jaunts at well over the speed limit, because they stopped after they saw me.

[bmccasland]

I fear I made the neighbors unhappy (again). There they were, having fun racing up and down the street on an very noisy unlicensed/untagged motorcycle, no helmets in sight (required in Maryland), all happy on a Sunday afternoon, some of the guys awaiting their turn. I guess they didn't like me (pretending to) video record(ing) their little jaunts at well over the speed limit, because they stopped after they saw me.

Be careful! Why didn't you call the police?:confused:

[owlice]

All I was doing was (not really) documenting their fun; why should they be the only ones to enjoy the afternoon? :D

[deeaimond]

Owlice, Like my mum always told me 'They now know where you live.' You never know when stupid people do stupid things that can hurt us.

[ny biker]

Okay, new problem. Well, not new, but it's gotten worse lately. The elephant walker upstairs slams her door every time she goes in or out of the condo. Really loud. It shakes the whole building. It actually wakes me up out of a deep sleep. I can't take it anymore.

I really don't want to talk to her. I'm thinking of putting this note on her door while she's not home:

Hi. Could you please stop slamming your door so much? It shakes the whole building. Thanks!!!

I will sign it, it won't be anonymous. I just want something to-the-point but friendly (well, as friendly as a noise complaint can be).

Then if she keeps slamming, I will contact the condo management and lodge an official complaint.

(Right now here parents are visiting, so I will wait until they leave. Hopefully they will not be here long. They've already cooked one meal that smelled like garbage. Why do I always have neighbors who cook food that smells like garbage? Why can't I have neighbors who cook food that smells like food??)

[jessmarimba]

I'm so thankful I don't share a building with people.

Several of my neighbors have regular guests who show up and lean on the horn (either to drop off kids, or to pick up the neighbors). It's obnoxious (and also against city ordinance). One of the across-the-street neighbors just had someone show up who beeped possibly 15 times as the neighbors slowly walked across the yard. I finally screamed STOP out the window :rolleyes:

Normally if it's after 7 am I just try to ignore it, but that was ridiculous. Though she surprisingly stopped beeping after I yelled!

[jessmarimba]

I can't hear my tv over the music playing at the house diagonally behind me.

I'll be nice and give them until 10, but I'm exhausted. And I don't have a/c so I can't close the windows (same as pretty much everyone else in this neighborhood).

[jessmarimba]

I know this seems unpatriotic, but I'm so tired of things exploding...and Mexican carnival music. I despise my neighborhood right now :(

I just want to sleep :( :mad:

[owlice]

I suppose it's still not legal, hmm? Because it's after 12:30 AM and I hear -- and have been hearing -- VERY LOUD bass from down the street.

[Owlie]

I hate my neighbors.
More accurately, I hate my neighbors' friends. Apparently, my neighbors have never seen the part of their lease that says that they are responsible for the their guests' behavior. These friends are this far away from being rednecks...complete with giant trucks. They provide all the alcohol for the loud parties that happen Thursday-Monday, apparently. These redneck friends managed to get into a drunken brawl two weeks ago that spilled onto my porch. There were cops called, though not by me.

Yes, I put in a noise complaint. They were quiet for two weekends, and now they're partying again. :mad:

[Roadtrip]

Hummm.. Call police.. I'm sure there are noise ordnances after 10p.. Can you complain to management?

Sorry to hear your having problems :(

[jessmarimba]

I've gotten pretty bold about calling the cops on noise violations. And it helps if more than one person in the neighborhood complains, then the cops know it isn't personal and they have more credibility when they respond. Go for it!

(I actually have the noise/fireworks complaing number in my speed dial. Seriously.)