View Full Version : What is a "pure climber"
Jiffer
04-08-2010, 09:32 AM
I have read the term "pure climber" on the internet a couple of times lately and I'm wondering what exactly it means. Here's an example below of a race report I was reading.
We would climb gradually by 1,780 feet on these twisty, but smooth, roads, which seemed pretty easy and wouldn't favor the pure climbers.
At first I assumed a pure climber is someone who is really good at climbing. Duh! But use of it in this context confuses me. Why would 1,780 feet of climbing NOT favor pure climbers? So then I'm left to think they mean if the climbing was MORE difficult, it would benefit a pure climber because they'd have more of an advantage over less skilled climbers. Did I guess right?! :p
maillotpois
04-08-2010, 09:38 AM
It's the word "gradually" - is it 1780 feet in 10 miles or in 50 miles? Big difference, but "gradually" leads me to believe it is a long distance, shallower climb, which wouldn't favor a pure climber who would excel at the steeper climbs.
Marco Pantani was a pure climber - tiny and wiry and strong. Mario Cipolliini not so much, but Mario could hang with Pantani on the shallower climbs I am sure because the power to weight ratio is not such a factor.
SadieKate
04-08-2010, 09:56 AM
Note that "pure" doesn't necessarily mean drug-free. :rolleyes:
maillotpois
04-08-2010, 10:42 AM
Snort!
ny biker
04-08-2010, 01:19 PM
Whatever a pure climber is, I am the opposite.
pinkbikes
04-08-2010, 02:17 PM
Whatever a pure climber is, I am the opposite.
I'm with you! I'm a pure couch sitter! Pure chocolate eater!?:D
ny biker
04-08-2010, 02:23 PM
Pure slowly-wheezing-my-way-to-the-top-but-at-least-I'm-not-falling-over.
marni
04-08-2010, 02:32 PM
Pure slowly-wheezing-my-way-to-the-top-but-at-least-I'm-not-falling-over.
that describes me perfectly Today's climb over the Eagles Nest near Medina was 12% but it was only 3/10 of a mile of narrow hairpin turns, hit the granny gear and try to keep going fast enough to not fall over. I made it and found the downhil 12% over 1/2 mile of narrow hairpins harder and scarier.
marni
Catrin
04-08-2010, 05:15 PM
Pure slowly-wheezing-my-way-to-the-top-but-at-least-I'm-not-falling-over.
This was me last Friday on a short but steep hill in a park. I actually didn't know it was POSSIBLE to be going 3.5 mph and not fall over :p :eek: :rolleyes:
ny biker
04-08-2010, 06:01 PM
I actually didn't know it was POSSIBLE to be going 3.5 mph and not fall over :p :eek: :rolleyes:
I do it all the time. And it still makes me laugh. Especially when a jogger passes me.
Jiffer
04-08-2010, 07:02 PM
It's the word "gradually" - is it 1780 feet in 10 miles or in 50 miles? Big difference, but "gradually" leads me to believe it is a long distance, shallower climb, which wouldn't favor a pure climber who would excel at the steeper climbs.
Marco Pantani was a pure climber - tiny and wiry and strong. Mario Cipolliini not so much, but Mario could hang with Pantani on the shallower climbs I am sure because the power to weight ratio is not such a factor.
So, basically I was right. Harder climb would benefit the pure climber. The ride they're talking about is a 40 mile out and back, but the climbing part is during the first 20.
Jiffer
04-08-2010, 07:04 PM
This was me last Friday on a short but steep hill in a park. I actually didn't know it was POSSIBLE to be going 3.5 mph and not fall over :p :eek: :rolleyes:
LOL!!! :D You guys are all cracking me up!!! I can totally relate, though. Not a strong climber, but am happy to say I am seeing improvement. My hubby, however, would be classified as a "pure climber". It sickens me I tell ya.
When we're out driving somewhere and see some road going up a big hill, I'll say, "I'd hate to climb that", while he says, "I'd LOVE to climb that!"
This was me last Friday on a short but steep hill in a park. I actually didn't know it was POSSIBLE to be going 3.5 mph and not fall over :p :eek: :rolleyes:
We had a "slow race" up a hill on the team ride the other week. Two of us actually managed to make our speedometers read 0.... (though I may have an advantage because mine only reads out in increments of .5). It's actually not a bad skill to practice - improves your bike handling a lot to go very slowly and try hard to not wobble.
Catrin
04-09-2010, 12:29 AM
We had a "slow race" up a hill on the team ride the other week. Two of us actually managed to make our speedometers read 0.... (though I may have an advantage because mine only reads out in increments of .5). It's actually not a bad skill to practice - improves your bike handling a lot to go very slowly and try hard to not wobble.
See - I was just practicing my bike skills :D I wasn't able to ride in a line at that speed either - the bike was weaving back and forth in my lane...but it was very early on a weekday morning and there were NO cars - or I would have walked it :rolleyes:
smilingcat
04-09-2010, 08:22 PM
found another fun training route in Palos Verdes Estate area. Out 3.2 miles with only 900 feet of climb. It's a nice distance to do the hill repeats. 3.2 miles out and 3.2 miles back down. Very low car traffic and scenery is OMG gorgeous. Look down to Pacific Ocean and see the waves breaking in Redondo Beach. Parts hit only 8% grade. So not insane. Rode it today and I love it.
malkin
04-10-2010, 01:18 PM
Whatever a pure climber is, I am the opposite.
An impure climber?
kenyonchris
04-10-2010, 06:46 PM
We had a "slow race" up a hill on the team ride the other week. Two of us actually managed to make our speedometers read 0.... (though I may have an advantage because mine only reads out in increments of .5). It's actually not a bad skill to practice - improves your bike handling a lot to go very slowly and try hard to not wobble.
Yes....this is a good bike handling exercise. In patrol bike school (granted, on mountain bikes) we do a LOT of slow bike exercises....one is an 8ft box...we try to fit three bikes circling in an 8 foot coned box. It is very hard, as you have to be almost wheel to wheel. We start with one (hard enough), add a second (very hard) and then a third joins in. Another is a cone drill involving slow weaving through very tightly spaced cones....in, out, figure 8, in, out figure 8.
BleeckerSt_Girl
04-10-2010, 08:24 PM
An impure climber?
I'm an impure climber, and proud of it. :D :D
WindingRoad
04-11-2010, 03:56 AM
An impure climber?
OK that sounds like you should have a big red scarlet letter on your jersey, LOL :D
Yes....this is a good bike handling exercise. In patrol bike school (granted, on mountain bikes) we do a LOT of slow bike exercises....one is an 8ft box...we try to fit three bikes circling in an 8 foot coned box. It is very hard, as you have to be almost wheel to wheel. We start with one (hard enough), add a second (very hard) and then a third joins in. Another is a cone drill involving slow weaving through very tightly spaced cones....in, out, figure 8, in, out figure 8.
The one and only time I mt biked we did this as a warm up. We did it out in the grass - with the added bit that it was last man standing and physical contact was allowable...if you got bumped out of the box or fell down you were out....
ny biker
04-11-2010, 03:44 PM
An impure climber?
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