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kacie tri-ing
02-22-2010, 03:19 PM
Anyone do these with their strength? My coach worked some into this week's strength training, and it was really fun/tough! I am sure that it is worthwhile too!

Veronica
02-22-2010, 03:28 PM
I do some with my trainer pretty much every week. We've been doing them for about ten months now and I have really see huge improvement in my ability to run up hills.

Veronica

kacie tri-ing
02-22-2010, 03:55 PM
I knew you would respond :D Do you do lower and upper body?

Veronica
02-22-2010, 06:00 PM
No, we pretty much stick to lower body plyometrics. One of my training days with her is upper body and core. The other day is plyos and legs. During the summer I have the time to up it to a third day. That's fun because it's a solid hour of plyometrics.

Veronica

Veronica
03-05-2010, 06:57 AM
Today we did push ups with a clap in between. They are hard because you really have to explode up to get enough time to clap. One is realtively easy, but repeating that explosion each time... is tough. I worked up to six in a row today, did 31 all together.

Veronica

Susan Otcenas
03-05-2010, 10:10 AM
Today we did push ups with a clap in between. Veronica

I'd be happy with just being able to do a pushup.... :o

channlluv
03-05-2010, 12:52 PM
My wrists ache just thinking about it. Doggone carpal tunnel.

I do plyometrics, too, though. DH bought a book called Core Performance by Lance's trainer, and we bought the rubber tubes and benches and things that are used in the program, but mostly it's all stretching and strength stuff on a mat. I saw huge improvements in my muscle tone in a very short time. I went from doing a 5-second plank to 45-second planks in about a month.

Huge, huge improvements all over, and it did a lot to improve my cycling form, too. I found it extremely effective, but I don't do the power pushups. I really do have carpal tunnel issues.

Roxy

GLC1968
03-05-2010, 01:27 PM
I'd be happy with just being able to do a pushup.... :o

Next time we get together - I'm gonna have to see proof of this. I find it hard to believe that with all your crossfit and swimming that you can't do even one. And if you can't, I'm gonna teach you how you can, damn it! :p

Susan Otcenas
03-05-2010, 01:43 PM
I only went to Crossfit once. I enjoyed it and think I'd get way strong doing it. But zowie, it would cost alot of money to join that Crossfit facility ($200/month!) I already spend almost that much for coaching, plus my gym membership and my pool membership. I just don't think I want to add that much more to my monthly athletic expenditures!

Really really, I can't do one single boy pushup. I can do about 10 girl pushups in a row. I really want to do the 100 pushups program online, but I never seem to get around to starting. :o

Susan Otcenas
03-05-2010, 01:44 PM
Next time we get together

Are you gonna make me drop and give you 20 at the sushi place tonight??? :D

GLC1968
03-05-2010, 02:46 PM
Are you gonna make me drop and give you 20 at the sushi place tonight??? :D

Nope, just one. ;)

(and you can wait until Jill's if you'd like)

Susan Otcenas
03-05-2010, 02:51 PM
Today we did push ups with a clap in between. They are hard because you really have to explode up to get enough time to clap. One is realtively easy, but repeating that explosion each time... is tough. I worked up to six in a row today, did 31 all together.

Veronica

Veronica,

Were you able to do pushups before you started with your trainer? If not, what exercises did you do that you think had the biggest impact on your ability to do them?

SadieKate
03-05-2010, 03:01 PM
PLANK!

And core strength in the abs and back.

http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/fitness_articles.asp?id=1003

(I personally prefer plank on my elbows to take stress off my wrists).

Veronica
03-05-2010, 03:28 PM
Veronica,

Were you able to do push ups before you started with your trainer? If not, what exercises did you do that you think had the biggest impact on your ability to do them?


Sorry - I've always been able to do push ups. Genetics blessed me with a strong upper body. I've got curses in other places, so I'll take what I can get. :D

Push ups really engage everything, (I just did a couple to see.) For me plank is really more about my Core, especially my lower back, since I tend to not engage my abs right away when I'm doing it. I have to actively think about using my abs. I don't really feel plank in my chest, upper back, triceps or biceps the way I do with push ups.

Susan I'd probably concentrate on triceps, just because it's not a muscle we tend to use in our daily lives. That's why so many women have such flab on the backs of their arms. ;) Can you do dips?

Veronica

SadieKate
03-05-2010, 03:34 PM
Ah, but see, as you said, it is a matter of your personal body's strengths and weaknesses. Mine is my lower back. "Girlie" push-ups have never been a problem for me as they don't involve a strong core, just strong arms and shoulders. It takes a strong core to support keep a nice plank position as in a straight body (no sag in the back or raised butt).

Susan Otcenas
03-05-2010, 04:09 PM
Can you do dips?



Promise not to laugh??

I use the dip assist machine at the gym. You know, the one you put your knees on a pad and you set the weight of the amount of assist (lift) you want. I'm 129 pounds, and I set the weight to 85 or 90 pounds. So I'm only lifting 40-45 pounds. :o Am I pitiful or what.

Veronica
03-05-2010, 04:13 PM
I'd never laugh, you're working it, that's what matters.

How about the kind of dips where your hands are on a bench and your feet are out in front of you?

http://www.shapefit.com/triceps-exercises-bench-dips.html

Veronica

Jolt
03-05-2010, 05:11 PM
Today we did push ups with a clap in between. They are hard because you really have to explode up to get enough time to clap. One is realtively easy, but repeating that explosion each time... is tough. I worked up to six in a row today, did 31 all together.

Veronica

Yikes...that does sound hard! I can do about six or seven push-ups at a time, but I definitely don't have the upper body strength to do anything explosive. Good for you!

Veronica
03-05-2010, 06:49 PM
This is another exercise I do with my trainer. She calls them Power Up Crunch Squats.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2513038112725393469&ei=Qs-RS8-aMJSYqQOU9vGXAg&q=crunch+squats&hl=en#

Except I don't use a Bosu ball, I go all the way down to the floor and I'm holding onto an 8 pound medicine ball.

These are killer!

Veronica

OakLeaf
03-05-2010, 09:06 PM
My wrists ache just thinking about it. Doggone carpal tunnel.


Can you do them (regular push-ups without the hand claps) holding hand weights? Really that's just a method of aligning the hands and shoulders... you can take the pressure out of your wrists with your own body alignment, but it takes a lot of attention, because most of us have such imbalances in the arm muscles. My yoga teacher's favorite cue is to keep what she calls "the mounds of the index fingers," i.e. the heads of the second metacarpals, on the mat.

Susan Otcenas
03-07-2010, 03:43 PM
I'd never laugh, you're working it, that's what matters.

How about the kind of dips where your hands are on a bench and your feet are out in front of you?

http://www.shapefit.com/triceps-exercises-bench-dips.html

Veronica

Thanks for the link. I just tried them, and yes, I can do those. Not terribly many, but yes. :) Seems like a good exercise to work into my rotation!

kilimarti
03-08-2010, 06:14 AM
I only went to Crossfit once. I enjoyed it and think I'd get way strong doing it. But zowie, it would cost alot of money to join that Crossfit facility ($200/month!) I already spend almost that much for coaching, plus my gym membership and my pool membership. I just don't think I want to add that much more to my monthly athletic expenditures!

Really really, I can't do one single boy pushup. I can do about 10 girl pushups in a row. I really want to do the 100 pushups program online, but I never seem to get around to starting. :o

Hi Susan,

Just read your post about paying $200 per month for CrossFit. I own a facility in Hillsboro where we not only teach Crossfit but a ton of other group classes including TRX for $99 per month. We work with all levels from beginners to athletes. Check us out: http://www.sweat360.com

tulip
03-08-2010, 09:22 AM
I've gotten much better with the 100 pushups program (I'm neither willing nor able to spend money on a trainer or gym, not with this new roof on my house).

Susan, if you have an iphone, the 100 pushups iphone app is great. It keeps me motivated.

Try it, and start with girl pushups if you have to. I still do a combo of girl/boy (horrible term!) pushups, and I'm up to 52 total (but not straight). I see a big difference in my arms in both definition and strength. And it takes about 7-10 minutes out of your day.

OakLeaf
03-08-2010, 09:29 AM
Just remember not to make that the only upper-body work you do.

In spite of the cautionary posts I put up here when I was doing the 100-pushups program, I didn't do an equal number of pull-ups, dips, internal/external rotations and reverse flyes, and wound up really screwing up my rotator cuffs and most of the muscles around them. Nerve impingement under the pec minor and everything. Nothing five or six intense neuromuscular massages plus all kinds of self-treatment with stretching, strengthening and a Thera-Cane couldn't cure, but I would've done better not to get myself there in the first place. :rolleyes:

Susan Otcenas
03-08-2010, 09:59 AM
Just remember not to make that the only upper-body work you do.


Coach gave me an upper body routine to do, which is what I follow each time I go to the weight room:

Seated Rows
2 sets narrow
2 sets wide

Lat pull downs
3 sets

chest press
2 sets

pull overs
2 sets

shoulder press
2 sets

tricep dips (standing)
1 set

tricep extensions
1 set

bicep curls
1 set

Between some of the sets I work in some abdominals.

Susan

tulip
03-08-2010, 10:03 AM
Good point, Oakleaf. Since I don't go to a gym, I do other exercises, Pilates, and yoga at home. Am I missing something? Probably, but it's the best I can do. I've had rotator cuff problems before, and they are no fun. I developed problems while being under the eye of a coach (not a very good one, evidently) at a gym, doing weights that were too heavy, too fast, and too soon. If anything I err on the side of not doing enough of anything, as opposed to doing too much of something.