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Shaula
10-24-2009, 06:07 AM
Hi guys! I am sure this subject has been addressed before but I am an overweight cyclist. I am about 85 pounds overweight but love to cycle and obviously, LOVE to eat! :D I have recently started a plan to lose the weight to make my cycling even better than it is now!!!! However, I have had people comment "If I rode my bike as much as you, I would be a rail" or "You ride your bike?????" My question is: Is there anyone out there that is significantly overweight and have had to deal with rude comments about your weight relating to cycling?
lo123
10-24-2009, 07:01 AM
"If I rode my bike as much as you, I would be a rail" or "You ride your bike?????"
Ugh. People suck.
How about:
"If I ran my mouth as much as you, I'd look like a dumb @$$." :p
Tri Girl
10-24-2009, 07:28 AM
I like that comeback, lo! :D I'm SO going to remember that one and keep it in my pocketbook of smart a*# comments. ;)
I'm overweight and I'm one of the biggest of my cycling/triathlon friends. I feel like a cow among them sometimes, but I was once 40 lbs thinner and the starvation/extreme exercise I had to do to maintain that "healthy weight for my height" was killing me.
I, too, LOVE food. Always have, always will, and I figure that what I'm doing now is keeping me from being 100 lbs heavier so I'm ok with it. You keep on doing what you need to do for YOU- not for anyone else. I struggle with trying not to care what others think, but the older I get- the more I don't give a hoot. For those that make snide comments- just get some good one-liners and pop off at them.
I'm glad you love cycling. Keep riding!!!:D:D:D:D
staceysue
10-24-2009, 08:05 AM
I'm not majorly overweight. I'm 30 lbs over my "ideal weight" - but whenever anybody's their "ideal weight" according to the old charts, nowadays everybody accuses them of being anorexic! I comfort myself with the fact that, if I lost 4 lbs, I'd be thin enough to join the military. Since Americans have got so much heavier over the past several years, I'm actually about average now.
It has come as somewhat of a surprise to me that I haven't lost weight cycling. I always assumed that all very active people were thin. Not the case. In fact, I think I've gained weight since I started cycling. My appetite increased a lot when my metabolism went up and then, when I got sick for a couple of weeks and had to take some time off cycling, my body continued to demand more food.
As far as rude comments - the only thing that kind of struck me funny was when the LBS guy assumed I only cycle once a week.
Cataboo
10-24-2009, 08:08 AM
I'm not sure I"ve lost more than 10 lbs or so cycling over the last year and should probably get rid of a few more of those. But as the bf said last week before he got kicked "Hey, wow... you have a waist now"
Trek420
10-24-2009, 08:15 AM
How about:
"If I ran my mouth as much as you, I'd look like a dumb @$$." :p
I love it. :p
I could stand to lose 40 lbs or so. BC (before cycling) I was wearing size 20-22 jeans, relaxed fit with the elastic. A few years into cycling I'm wearing 12's. I weigh about the same, things have just toned up :D
I'd like to lose more weight but mostly from the point of having arthritis. Toning up has helped my joints sooooo much. I'll always have the arth so the lighter and stronger I am the less pain I have.
But I'd rather be strong and fit than any particular weight. I bet that regardless of your rude (and I mean :eek: :mad: :eek: rude) "friend's" weight that you are stronger and fitter than they are!
Has this ever happened to you? You pull up to work or maybe you are leaving and someone makes a snarky comment about bike riding ..... from the smoking area the required 25 feet outside the door. :rolleyes:
So my response would be:
you
me
outside!
any bike
any hill
any time
let's take this outside!
buddha_bellies
10-24-2009, 08:21 AM
I like the last comment. Reminds of my Russell Crowe dueling out with that journalist a few weeks back...
tprevost
10-24-2009, 09:20 AM
Ugh. People suck.
How about:
"If I ran my mouth as much as you, I'd look like a dumb @$$." :p
This makes me laugh! Well said! :p
Shara
10-24-2009, 09:44 AM
But I'd rather be strong and fit than any particular weight.
This is where I'm at. I need to lose fat. But I'm more interested in gaining stamina and fitness. Which I also need to do. I'd be at the upper end of 'normal' if I lost 50 lbs and I'd be happy with that.
Trek420
10-24-2009, 10:01 AM
How about:
"If I ran my mouth as much as you, I'd look like a dumb @$$." :p
How about "if I ran as much as you run your mouth I'd be doing marathons too" :rolleyes: :p ;)
malkin
10-24-2009, 10:48 AM
Love the all the comments.
I've always wanted to try something like John Cleese in Fierce Creatures, where he catches criticism for walking around with the lemur in a cage...
He's ever so polite and cheerful, as if he really hadn't thought of the most obvious thing, and says, "Thanks for the tip; I'll remember that next time."
I've never been that polite.
OakLeaf
10-24-2009, 11:04 AM
People are unbelievable. :mad::mad:
It's a lot easier to talk about than actually do... but in my imagination where I'm a confident wise@ss I'd take a more direct approach. I'd look them in the eye and say, "Why would you say something like that?" Or "Did saying that make you feel better?"
kermit
10-24-2009, 11:39 AM
Some of those comments are probably from people too lazy to get on a bike and ride. Jealousy of you getting out and about. I have a house in south Georgia, and don't want to stereotype but my MIL, a southern woman will not get out of her car and sweat. She wants to loose weight but riding a bike in the HEAT is not an option. I get lots of looks from farmers and their families in the little town we built our house. Riding a bike is just not as normal as in some other towns. Invite them on a ride and smoke 'em I say!
Bike Chick
10-24-2009, 11:48 AM
Well I certainly feel as though I'm among friends:):) I need to loose 20 pounds to be my "ideal" weight. It would also help me on the bike and running but it's a battle everyday. I think that those of us who enjoy riding bikes also embrace life and the flavorful, enjoyable experiences it offers. Eating is one of those. I could weigh 20 pounds less if I didn't eat that piece of chocolate at 3:00 in the afternoon or have a couple beers and pizza with friends on Friday night but life is too short for that.
I'm 25 pounds heavier than I was at 30 (I'm 51) but I'm a heck of a lot healthier. Twenty years ago I smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day and drank coffee til dinner. I couldn't have ran 1 block much less a 5 k. But I looked good in a size 5 dress. Big deal! I started riding bikes 5 years ago when I quit smoking. I did my first century the following year, my first triathlon last year and I'm training for a half-marathon. Yeah I felt pretty self-conscience wearing spandex to the first organized ride but when I got there I saw all shapes and sizes of folks in spandex and no one cared what you looked like in your shorts or what size you were. Cycling has given me the self-confidence to feel good in the body I'm in--no matter what size it is!
The downside to carrying the extra weight is that it is harder to climb hills on the bike, it's hard on my knees and feet when I run, and I have to rip the elastic out of the bottom of most of my jerseys. It's also hard to be taken seriously as a cyclist - even in the LBS. That's the part I hate.
Trek420
10-24-2009, 02:31 PM
The downside to carrying the extra weight is that it is harder to climb hills on the bike
The up side is we smoke 'em on the downhill. :p
azfiddle
10-24-2009, 04:30 PM
Shaula, Hurray for you for doing things to help yourself be more healthy. Keep cycling- it can only be good for you, and maybe you will be even more motivated to eat healthy foods and portions as part of a plan to increase your energy and enjoyment on rides.
I'm not significantly overweight at this time- but over the last year, I've lost 23 pounds with weightwatchers and cycling. I'm only 5'1", so it is a substantial change. I have been very self-conscious about my weight in other settings though, so I can sympathize with you.
I love to eat too, and the only way I can successfully stay on track with cutting back is to visualize that I'm not giving something up, I'm getting something really great by eating smaller portions and cutting out things that aren't so good for me. Over time, I've noticed a greater appreciation of more subtle flavors in fruits, vegies etc.
I don't know what to say to/about the insensitive people... I see people of all shapes and sizes on the well-used cycling route I often ride on weekends and I've never heard an unkind word said to or about anyone's size or shape at the shade ramada where almost everyone breaks for water and a rest stop. Hope that's helpful and encouraging.
I think it's more important to do what makes you feel good about yourself. Right after college, I was at my heaviest, and the following January I started Weight Watchers. It worked well for me and I lost about 30lbs, a big change on my 5'-1" frame. That was all done with changing my eating, with no consistent exercise. But I still wasn't happy with how I looked. Two years ago I bought my road bike and began riding consistently. As I got into cycling, I also started getting into other activities like hiking and kayaking. The more I did, the more confidence I gained to try new things. I've since dropped another 10lbs and am now at the higher end of the "healthy" weight for my height. But I could honestly care less about than than how much better I look and feel. Things have firmed up and my confidence has gotten a much-needed boost. Lately, I got lazy and pretty much stopped doing everything. Though my weight didn't change, my body did, and I wasn't happy. The flab started to creep back and I was angry with myself for letting my hard work go to waste. It's a journey and a battle I'll have to fight my whole life.
I've been on both sides, being derided by even my own family for being overweight, to being sneered at by overweight people who assume I've always been this weight and it comes naturally (the "It must be nice to eat like that and stay skinny" comments. Well, you don't see the measured out meals the rest of the week and the hours of exercise. I've learned to just stop caring what people think (including my family, who tormented me when I was overweight, called me anorexic when I lost weight, mocked me when I started biking, and then went out and bought bikes when they saw me sticking with it), and do whatever brings me joy and peace. I wish you much strength in your journey and hope you find happiness.
Shaula
10-24-2009, 06:16 PM
You guys are the best! Talk about getting me super motivated (more than I was!!!!). Love the smart a#& comments! I will remember them! Kermit - where in South Georgia do you live? I live in Folkston, Georgia
Sadie
10-24-2009, 08:12 PM
Thanks for this thread. It makes me feel so sad when people look at me and wonder how I could be chubby, but ride a bike. Food tastes good, what can I say. Take care of the body God gave you by treating it right and enjoying great things in life.
sarahkonamojo
10-25-2009, 06:58 AM
I always figure that at least I am out there doing it. Of course, I hate getting passed by some skinny *** on the hills, but as long as I don't have to walk or turn back, I am a winner.
Good food is good for you.
I try not to use snarky remarks or comebacks. For some reason, they don't make me feel any better. I just figure it is their problem and not mine. At the LBS, I try to do my research and ask pertinent questions. And I am a loyal customer. It helps.
sarah
beccaB
10-25-2009, 07:14 AM
This is a little bit different than the issue being discussed-it has more to do with people who have diarhea (sp?) of the mouth- I occasionally hear MEN say to me-"what, you don't dye your hair?" I am 48, but a very young looking 48 and my gray hair has been coming in slowly since I was 30. It's still mostly brunette, but there is a lot of silver. My husband told me he thinks it's sexy, and I actually think it gives my hair more depth. I guess I work around some crass people and they don't know how to control their mouths. I usually just say to them that I won't dye my hair to save the money for good beer!
Triskeliongirl
10-25-2009, 07:19 AM
There isn't a lot you can do about other people's stupidity or insensitivity.
But you can control how you react to their remarks, and what you do about your weight problem.
I too had a weight problem for a long time. The first step is setting up a good diet/exercise program which clearly you have done so good for you.
The second is stacking the deck in favor that your plan will work. So, also get checked out to be sure there aren't medical problems getting in the way. In my case it was a combination of hypothyroidism and impaired glucose tolerance. Once these problems were resolved, my weight 'normalized', i.e. I lost weight eating more calories than during my failed dieting attempts when my underlying medical issues were not being controlled for.
I love food even more now that I am a normal weight, cuz food is no longer the enemy.
Congratulations for adopting a healthy lifestyle! The weight will come off, just don't give up, and don't let other peoples hurtful remarks deter you from your goals.
kermit
10-25-2009, 11:14 AM
Hey Shaula. Looks like you are east of me. We built our house in Sparks, Georgia. My husbands family is from there, love it!
Shaula
10-25-2009, 01:08 PM
Sparks near Valdosta or Macon?
shootingstar
10-25-2009, 01:21 PM
I occasionally hear MEN say to me-"what, you don't dye your hair?" I am 48, but a very young looking 48 and my gray hair has been coming in slowly since I was 30. It's still mostly brunette, but there is a lot of silver. My husband told me he thinks it's sexy, and I actually think it gives my hair more depth. I guess I work around some crass people and they don't know how to control their mouths. I usually just say to them that I won't dye my hair to save the money for good beer!
Yay for your hubby and your grey hair!
Or another response: "I'm saving money instead for a better/2nd/3rd/4th bike" or something similar. Of course the guys might be suitably impressed if you had multiple bikes. Redirects their attention somewhere else. :D
kermit
10-25-2009, 01:46 PM
Sparks north of valdosta, just south of Tifton, 1 mile off of 75. Have you looked into any riding clubs? My husband joined the azelia city cyclists. They have alot of group rides and just had a really nicely supported century ride.
malkin
10-25-2009, 02:32 PM
Another related/unrelated situation:
When I'm out and about (in my professional capacity) with a kid with a disability, I've had people make stupid comments from "What's wrong with him?" to "Can't you stop that?" (usually the kid's screaming), to "What does he have?"
I'm usually somewhere between dumbstruck and ignoring, but I did quickly respond to "What does he have?" by saying "He has a red hat."
Crankin
10-25-2009, 04:36 PM
That is the dumbest thing I've heard... the stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me.
I once had a daycare worker at my gym ask me if my kids had different fathers, because at that time they looked quite different, one blonde, one very dark. I replied, "Gee, no, I would have had to work pretty fast for that, since they are only 2.5 years apart."
As far as the weight comments, just keep riding. You are probably a better rider than a lot of people. I've been dropped by a lot of riders, who didn't fit the stereotypical mold of what some people think a good rider looks like.
Sadie
10-25-2009, 05:05 PM
My daughter has twins, boy/girl/ People always ask her if they are identical. Well, duh
Shara
10-25-2009, 06:28 PM
My daughter has twins, boy/girl/ People always ask her if they are identical. Well, duh
lmao That's funny
My daughter and niece are six months apart. My dd is very slim and tall, whereas her cousin is shorter and stockier but has a full set of teeth and more mature looking face (at the time) compared to my dd. I'd put them in a side by side double stroller and people would say every day "cute twins!" Once I had only my daughter in the stroller and someone said "Awww what cute twins" :confused: double vision?? lol People are crazy and say the weirdest things.
Another related/unrelated situation:
When I'm out and about (in my professional capacity) with a kid with a disability, I've had people make stupid comments from "What's wrong with him?" to "Can't you stop that?" (usually the kid's screaming), to "What does he have?"
I'm usually somewhere between dumbstruck and ignoring, but I did quickly respond to "What does he have?" by saying "He has a red hat."
When I was in college I became ill with some random thing that made my legs stop working. At best I could take a baby step with my left foot and drag my right foot along. Would pop up for a week, disappear for a few 2-3 months, and reappear. At various times while trying to literally drag myself to and from class, random people would stop me and say "What's wrong with you?" I guess they at least had the decency (nerve?) to ask, rather than the people that just used to stare. :rolleyes:
Shaula
10-25-2009, 07:27 PM
When my daughter was born, I was leaving the hospital and my husband had purchased the FRILLIEST, LACIEST, FLUFFIEST, PINKISH dress he could find to dress his new baby girl in for her homecoming outfit. So, there we were, he pushing me in the wheelchair down the hospital corridor and me, holding our new, very feminine, pink baby. A lady came up to me and said "Ohhhh - a new baby! Boy or girl?" My DH said "OH, we haven't decided".......:p
colby
10-25-2009, 08:19 PM
Hi guys! I am sure this subject has been addressed before but I am an overweight cyclist. I am about 85 pounds overweight but love to cycle and obviously, LOVE to eat! :D I have recently started a plan to lose the weight to make my cycling even better than it is now!!!! However, I have had people comment "If I rode my bike as much as you, I would be a rail" or "You ride your bike?????" My question is: Is there anyone out there that is significantly overweight and have had to deal with rude comments about your weight relating to cycling?
I like your attitude - losing weight to make cycling better, not for some arbitrary reason. ;)
I think most days, those comments can roll off your back. Some days, it's just hard to let that stuff go. Remember that you're doing it for you, not for them. Everyone's different. And hey, so you like food. Whatever.
I remember reading a story that Running Mommy had about going to a sprint triathlon and being asked if it was her first time, even though she had completed Ironman-distance triathlons. They didn't believe her. What gives someone else the right to judge your capabilities? Nothing!
Just wanted to add my applause from the peanut gallery to stick with it. You are not a cycling impostor just because you're overweight ;)
SlowButSteady
10-27-2009, 05:15 AM
I want to "weigh in" on this topic but I'll have to suppress some anger.
I've always been athletic but can gain weight on air. I have very, very bad feet and in 2005, I bought into cycling as THE alternative to running. And I sort of thought the 25 or so extra pounds would melt off once I got going.
Good golly, I've gotten strong and built up endurance. I've even managed to complete 4 sprint triathlons.
But I still cannot keep up with my local bike club. They leave me in the dust. I also can't build up much distance...because as slow as I am, there aren't enough hours in the day for me to ride 40+ miles.
And, I've gained/am still gaining weight. Now, instead of being 25 lbs overweight, I'm more like 50. A little bit of my body has remodeled some. My back/butt are flatter...now I'm carrying this apron of fat on my lower abdomen. :(
I enjoy all aspects of food and drink. I'm a cook. I mean, I love to cook, and have written a book-length manuscript about food. And, yes, I eat, but I don't eat truly unreasonable amounts of food. I don't really eat sweets at all.
But I would have to seriously deprive myself to lose this weight!!! By now I know that cycling and cross-training ain't gonna do it.
When you think about it, by definition, losing weight amounts to malnutrition, to getting an insufficent amount of calories. I would have to be that way for close to a year, I think, to reach my goal weight. And then it would be a full-on battle to keep it off.
I'm not sure I want to do that. And I'm a little bit bitter about it, can't you tell? I don't want to be skinny like a model. I'd just love to wear a size 12 or 14.
beccaB
10-27-2009, 06:25 AM
I want to "weigh in" on this topic but I'll have to suppress some anger.
I've always been athletic but can gain weight on air. I have very, very bad feet and in 2005, I bought into cycling as THE alternative to running. And I sort of thought the 25 or so extra pounds would melt off once I got going.
Good golly, I've gotten strong and built up endurance. I've even managed to complete 4 sprint triathlons.
But I still cannot keep up with my local bike club. They leave me in the dust. I also can't build up much distance...because as slow as I am, there aren't enough hours in the day for me to ride 40+ miles.
And, I've gained/am still gaining weight. Now, instead of being 25 lbs overweight, I'm more like 50. A little bit of my body has remodeled some. My back/butt are flatter...now I'm carrying this apron of fat on my lower abdomen. :(
I enjoy all aspects of food and drink. I'm a cook. I mean, I love to cook, and have written a book-length manuscript about food. And, yes, I eat, but I don't eat truly unreasonable amounts of food. I don't really eat sweets at all.
But I would have to seriously deprive myself to lose this weight!!! By now I know that cycling and cross-training ain't gonna do it.
When you think about it, by definition, losing weight amounts to malnutrition, to getting an insufficent amount of calories. I would have to be that way for close to a year, I think, to reach my goal weight. And then it would be a full-on battle to keep it off.
I'm not sure I want to do that. And I'm a little bit bitter about it, can't you tell? I don't want to be skinny like a model. I'd just love to wear a size 12 or 14.
I had about 20 pounds I felt like were too much for my frame. I was weighing in at my full term pregnancy weight (youngest kid is 16!!). I went on a "diet" that is pretty similar in structure to the Zone diet. In fact, it is more food than I have time to consume! I did lose the 20, and it made me faster and lighter up the hills. I am still a good 10 or 15 pounds heavier that I was in college, but I am stronger and fitter and can fit into single digit clothing sizes. That is what is right for MY structure. I think the right way to look at weight loss would be what your structure and fitness level is. Genetics plays a roll too. The ancestors in my family were shaped like bean poles. I was actually embarrassed to be so thin as a child. I was jealous of other kids who had thick wrists because I was painfully thin. I got picked on a lot. Kids can be so mean, but a lot of adults have never matured.
staceysue
10-27-2009, 07:51 AM
. . . . . . . I sort of thought the 25 or so extra pounds would melt off once I got going.. . . . . . .
Good golly, I've gotten strong and built up endurance. I've even managed to complete 4 sprint triathlons.
. . . . . . . . Now, instead of being 25 lbs overweight, I'm more like 50. A little bit of my body has remodeled some. My back/butt are flatter...now I'm carrying this apron of fat on my lower abdomen. :(
NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! (that's a scream of horror) Please tell me this is not possible! I, too, thought the weight would just start melting off when I started cycling - and it hasn't. I have a little lower abdominal bulge - not an apron, just a bulge I got when I was pregnant 19 years ago that never went away. Since I started cycling I'm thinning up in other areas but that little bulge is still there and now it seems more noticeable.
OK - I'm going on a diet starting today. I do NOT want to gain 25 lbs.
MomOnBike
10-27-2009, 10:54 AM
Another overweight cyclist here. I'd be thrilled if I were only 30-50 lbs overweight. As it is, I could lose 1/2 my weight and be just about right.
I'm frustrated. I really try to watch my portions at dinner, I ride my bike a fair amount, I am at the gym 3 times a week, and still can gain weight by just thinking about food.
Sigh.
ny biker
10-27-2009, 11:11 AM
[QUOTE=SlowButSteady;471832When you think about it, by definition, losing weight amounts to malnutrition, to getting an insufficent amount of calories. [/QUOTE]
This is not true. Losing weight is not about cutting calories to the point where it's not healthy. And it's not about cutting out foods that provide necessary nutrition. It's about cutting out the excess that your body does not need. That can be hard to do because it means cutting out things that taste really good. But that's different from malnutrition.
OakLeaf
10-27-2009, 11:17 AM
What NYB said, and also if you're continuing to gain weight without eating unreasonably, while you're active, I wonder if there's an underlying medical problem. Have you had your thyroid checked?
MomOnBike
10-27-2009, 11:17 AM
Agreed. Also, as I understand it, malnutrition can include eating too much - which is just as bad (mal-) as not getting enough nutrition.
tulip
10-27-2009, 11:18 AM
NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! (that's a scream of horror) Please tell me this is not possible! I, too, thought the weight would just start melting off when I started cycling - and it hasn't. I have a little lower abdominal bulge - not an apron, just a bulge I got when I was pregnant 19 years ago that never went away. Since I started cycling I'm thinning up in other areas but that little bulge is still there and now it seems more noticeable.
OK - I'm going on a diet starting today. I do NOT want to gain 25 lbs.
I wasn't going to chime in because I'm not overweight. But I have a big mouth and can't keep it shut, so here goes.
Perhaps when we start exercising, we see that as an excuse to eat more. That's fine as long as there's an awareness of it.
As for the ab fat--that's unhealthy for your heart, so that's why I have to say something about it. I think it's great if you are fine with your weight whatever it is (like SlowButSteady--definitely fantastic that you are stronger and do triathlons!). But too much extra weight and things get harder for your heart. From all I've read, that is particularly true for people who store extra fat around their middles (and I am one of those people).
I was 20 lbs heavier until a few years ago. I started taking Pilates classes and that really, really helped my middle. It also coincided with losing those 20 lbs, although I have no idea about cause and effect, since I was doing alot of other things at that time, too. For instance, I cut out coffee and all the junk that went with it from Starbucks (1000 cals for breakfast!!), started eating more fruit and less junkfood, stopped drinking soda except for rare treats, started going to spinning classes, and was very stressed out at work and in life.
So while it's great to be comfortable in your own skin, it's also great to be as healthy as you can be.
'Nuff said, I'm shutting up now.
WindingRoad
10-27-2009, 09:22 PM
I am not currently overweight but I was about 30 pounds heavier 5 years ago. I actually didn't lose all my weight cycling I had to make some lifestyle changes. It sounds simple but I stopped eating so much processed food and pretty much cut out fast food completely. I still indulge in some french fries once in a while but not a lot. What I found was the quality of the food made a HUGE difference for me. Organic groceries are worth the extra money to me. Drinking a lot more water made a huge impact too. Another thing I've found quite filling recently it homemade yogurt. It's kinda cool because if you make your own you can increase the nutritional content of it by simply adding more powdered milk. It's a fat free protein that you can add any kind of fruit to and actually feel satiated afterwards. Store bought yogurt doesn't do this??? As Tulip said Pilates is a great way to tone up the mid section. As an avid commuter I find it easy to forget about the abs and think all the miles I log will take care of it. Not so much, I get the poochy belly thing and I log around 100 miles a week. That's when I do Pilates and it REALLY helps and relatively quickly I might add. Don't get too frustrated trying to lose weight everyone is different and sometimes just finding that special blend of foods and exercise is what your body needs. Try mixing things up with your exercise and diet and see if you can find some new foods you like and can incorporate into the diet. Another suggestion and I'll stop yapping, Mangoes! They are VERY filling, loaded with the good stuff and you can eat the whole thing. Very rewarding :D
Bike Chick
10-28-2009, 04:50 AM
It also depends on your age..........the older I get, the harder it is to loose.
nsandz
10-28-2009, 10:28 AM
It has been said before, but is worth repeating: Thanks for this post.
I am about 40 lbs overweight and just started cycling about a year ago. I have never had anyone comment on my weight, but I feel it is because I avoid being around people while cycling or exercising. I am very self conscious and really felt that I was the only one like this. I know that is unrealistic, but sometimes I really thought it was true. I would be embarrassed to go into a bike shop because I'm usually the only overweight one in the store. My boyfriend and cycling partner is in perfect athletic shape, so when he tells me I look perfect and not to be so hard on myself I always thought he didn't understand. It's funny because now it seems that I am the one who didn't understand.
Thank you to everyone who posted :)
sundial
10-28-2009, 05:55 PM
The up side is we smoke 'em on the downhill.
Trek, lol!
I started cycling in a limited way about 4 years ago when I was 76 pounds overweight. Now I'm about 20 pounds overweight. I feel soooo much better. I can climb stairs. I can walk. I can do the grocery shopping without aching knees. I did not lose the weight by cycling alone. I did Curves for a while. I lifted weights for a while. I joined Weight Watchers and did what they told me. That made the biggest difference. I have not starved myself, and I eat lots of really good food, but it's nutritious food, not empty calories, and it's filling.
I'm 60 years old, and thinner than I've been in years. The laws of physics still apply.
As for what people say, some are just rude. Ignore them or tell them to get lost. However, I think it's possible that you are misinterpreting, "You ride a bike!" sometimes. When I ride my bike to work, which I've done occasionally since I was my heaviest, people are amazed. You'd think I arrived by dogsled or hot air balloon, and some of them express that they think I must be very brave and strong to be cycling when I have a perfectly good car in the garage. Some people don't get it at all, and others clearly think I've lost my last bit of common sense. These reactions haven't changed much since I've lost weight.
kenyonchris
10-28-2009, 09:14 PM
I want to "weigh in" on this topic but I'll have to suppress some anger.
I've always been athletic but can gain weight on air. I have very, very bad feet and in 2005, I bought into cycling as THE alternative to running. And I sort of thought the 25 or so extra pounds would melt off once I got going.
And, I've gained/am still gaining weight. Now, instead of being 25 lbs overweight, I'm more like 50. A little bit of my body has remodeled some. My back/butt are flatter...now I'm carrying this apron of fat on my lower abdomen. :(
I enjoy all aspects of food and drink. I'm a cook. I mean, I love to cook, and have written a book-length manuscript about food. And, yes, I eat, but I don't eat truly unreasonable amounts of food. I don't really eat sweets at all.
But I would have to seriously deprive myself to lose this weight!!! By now I know that cycling and cross-training ain't gonna do it.
I'm not sure I want to do that. And I'm a little bit bitter about it, can't you tell? I don't want to be skinny like a model. I'd just love to wear a size 12 or 14.
As a personal trainer (certified through NASM) I would suggest two things (you may not be asking for suggestions, but here they are if you want them)...1) have your thyroid checked, get a physical, make sure there is nothing physical or chemical (including drug interactions) that are causing you to have problems losing weight. 2) get with someone who has an idea of how to design an exercise weight loss program. It really is calories in/calories out...with some twist. Your body WILL adapt and not burn as many calories unless you exercise correctly. And riding (running, whatever) on its own will not do it for you. It is about pushing your heart rate up, then recovering. I can burn more calories doing a 30 minute ride than a 2 hour 40 mile ride if I just spin on the 40 miles and do intervals and hills on the 30 minute one.
And it isn't all about cardio...lifting burns a ton of calories even after you finish...do low weight, high reps.
If you are having problems getting results....take heart, it most likely isn't YOU. Just your program. That is EASY to change. But do see a doctor first to make sure!
And, the nice by product is that by changing the WAY you are riding, you will get faster and stronger as well as leaner.
SlowButSteady
10-29-2009, 01:33 PM
My thyroid has been checked a gazillion times. In fact, I'm currently pending tests for hypothyroidism and diabetes mellitus. Mom and brother take supplemental thyroid hormones, so there is a family history.
My brother, however, is in an entertainment field and has to look good (ie, be slim) for his job. At one point, he was doing two a day workouts--lifting and running up to 10 miles a day and starving himself AND HE WAS STILL about 40 lbs OVERWEIGHT. :eek:
At some point, he saw a doctor who told him to stop exercising and dieting, as it was simply training his metabolism to be more stingey with the calories...and he lost weight. Of course, the diet pills and resuming smoking probably helped a whole lot!!! But he looks like a million bucks and looks 10 years younger.
I'm pretty disheartened. Not being able to find tri clothes, for one thing. The ones I have are guys XXL and they are too tight. Getting all the catalogs like Title 9 and Athleta which have all the stuff I like but where a size 12 - 14 is an XL--just frustrates me. I want to write them a dirty letter and tell them to stick those catalogs...
It didn't help when my son said, "Mama, why are you doing all that stuff? It's not helping you any."
...I'm kind of taking a break from working out for now.
tulip
10-29-2009, 02:45 PM
SBS, work out if it makes you feel good. If it becomes a downer and a chore, then it's not working for you. I would only encourage you to remain active, whether it's hiking or just romping with your kids alot. Have you tried Pilates? It really has helped me feel good and strong in my middle.
Have you checked TE for plus-size clothing? I've heard they have a good selection, and it's right here!
sundial
10-29-2009, 02:55 PM
...I'm kind of taking a break from working out for now.
Slow, have you made an appointment with an endocrinologist to check your thyroid levels? Even if your family doc says it's in the normal range, it may not be normal for you.
I have to say too that hormones, or lack thereof, can make a BIG difference when it comes to weight gain. Being peri- and post- menopausal wrecks havoc on the body I tell ya. :o
sundial
10-29-2009, 03:04 PM
It really is calories in/calories out...with some twist. Your body WILL adapt and not burn as many calories unless you exercise correctly.
I have to respectfully disagree. ;) Many women, including myself, will attest that after having a hysterectomy the weight just skyrocketed shortly thereafter. I personally was losing weight before my surgery and lost weight afterwards--even during Christmas. Not six months later my weight quickly changed--despite being on the same diet and exercising like mad. Today I can barely get the weight off. It's really, really difficult just losing 8 pounds. :mad: I'm focusing now on just maintaining my health and exercising when I can. Cycling is changing my body shape and the weight pretty much has leveled off for now. Unfortunately, it's much higher than what it used to be. :(
Juliegoddess
11-11-2009, 08:48 AM
Hey Everyone!
Just thought I would add to the fray here...I'm another plus-sized cyclist, and I know I am slower and more out of shape than even some ladies bigger than me. I am about 5'9" and 229 pounds. I started out at 240, but have found that muscle is replacing fat, and it weighs MORE! I'm not so worried about the pounds not dropping off because of this.
What is discouraging, though, is that I ride every single day...but since I have big ole' heavy mountain bike, my distances aren't very far. I don't mind that...I know once I have a road bike my distances will increase a lot. I just hate being wiped out after only 7-10 miles.
I sure wish I had other plus-size riding buddies, too. People in my area don't bike, and i get stared all all the time like I am from mars or something. People around here (Monroe, MI) bike to the supermarket and back, just for fun. they look at me like I'm nuts.
So anyway, it's hard to set fitness goals...I just feel like I should be going further, doing more, losing more weight, etc. but stop biking? No way!
sundial
11-11-2009, 01:34 PM
....i get stared all all the time like I am from mars or something...
Maybe it's because you're on a mountain bike hitting the pavement instead of the trails? It takes a lot more effort to ride a mtb than a light weight road bike on the pavement. Tell yourself you are a trend setter. :)
have found that muscle is replacing fat, and it weighs MORE!
No, it doesn't.
It has to do with the structure of a fat cell compared to the structure of a muscle cell as shown here. Guess which one is the fat cell? http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/zencentury/fatcellmusclecells.jpg
If you take two identical boxes and fill one with fat cells and the other with muscle cells, the muscle cell box will weigh more. Not because muscle weighs more than fat but because more muscle cells fit in the same space.
One more word-intervals. Hill repeats, sprint repeats, or standing repeats.
channlluv
11-11-2009, 06:47 PM
I'm right there with you. 100lbs to lose. But you know what? I feel really strong, and getting stronger. I love that I have super strong butt and thighs, and my forearms are RIPPED now I'm on a road bike and am assuming the correct position. I mean, I can flex them and feel the sinew.
Yeah, there is way to much fat around my middle, but I'm getting stronger with every ride.
Roxy
owlice
11-11-2009, 11:03 PM
Zen and JulieGoddess, I think you are saying the same thing, just in different ways: a certain volume of muscle weighs more than the same volume of fat. Fat takes up more space; it's fluffier! :D
I've ridden much more this year than in years past -- last year and the year before, I rode very little -- and haven't lost any weight this year while riding. I am in pants two sizes smaller, however, and a dress that fit me when I was 30 pounds lighter that I thought wouldn't fit (because I'm not 30 pounds lighter!) does, and fits me better now than it used to.
(I bought the dress for a going-away party for my then-fiance, who was moving here to marry me. I tried it on a few weeks ago the day of our divorce trial, and since it fit, I wore it to court since this should have been another kind of going-away for him. :D My petition for divorce was denied, however.... so maybe I should have worn something else!!)
PinkBike
11-12-2009, 08:39 PM
i wanna take friendly exception to chris-the-cop. when you're young it may be calories in-calories burned. wait'll you go through That Part Of Your Life. i finally started losing those last pounds thru Schwarzbein Principle, but you have to be so blanketyblank vigilant! Every Single Day. uggh.
however, who cares??!! ride because you love to ride!!
and know that the people who make any comments whatsoever about being heavy and riding could absolutely not do what you are doing.
and you have friends here who do know and share the passion.
kenyonchris
11-13-2009, 07:28 AM
i wanna take friendly exception to chris-the-cop. when you're young it may be calories in-calories burned. wait'll you go through That Part Of Your Life. i finally started losing those last pounds thru Schwarzbein Principle, but you have to be so blanketyblank vigilant! Every Single Day. uggh.
I'm 40 years old! Your body adapts to exercise, it becomes harder to burn the calories you take in. But it is still calories in, calories out. I am 115 lbs at 5'5. I work my butt off to stay like that (I used to be able to eat whatever and stay slender). Everyone assumes I have a "fast metabolism" or am "lucky"...I battle with the same problems everyone else does. It IS harder to burn calories, I have to do more to get less. I am only lucky in that I *know* how to do that, and I am disciplined enough to do it. Even then, I am frustrated at parts of my body that don't tone like they used to, no matter how many crunches I do. The truth is, I need to switch from crunches, which I like and can do a zillion of, to leg lifts and reverse crunches, which I hate (because they are hard, thus would be more effective). Then maybe I could quit whining. Right now I am just whining.
I totally admire anyone who can struggle to lose 50, 60, 70 lbs. Kudos to em. If you are turning the pedals over, you are on your way. But if you aren't seeing results, it is either a) a medical problem, b) you are not burning effectively or c) your diet is wrong...or a combination thereof.
Chris, I think you glossed over a very important point she was trying to make
... wait'll you go through That Part Of Your Life.
it was a whole lot easier to lose weight at 40 than it is at 52. And no, I'm not whining.
dinabean
11-13-2009, 10:22 AM
SBS, I feel you, I really do! I am training for a TRI, too, and it sucks that the "big" clothes are several sizes too small. Believe it or not, I am eternally grateful to WalMart for carrying the Danskin fitness wear in XXL sizes that fit me (5'9" 235 lbs when I started, down to 227 after 10 weeks of mostly running x a week). It's not specialized Tri gear or bike gear, but it was at least stuff I wasn't embarassed to be seen in public in when I was doing Couch to 5K. I am also S-L-O-W (my 5K time is ~45 minutes) but it's all good. Don't you feel better? Stronger? I struggle with being annoyed that the weight isn't just pouring off (and I am watching intake, too) but it is what it is. At least I am healthier than I was a few weeks ago, and I hope to be even healthier by this time next year!
One other thought -- have you had D3 levels checked? I've done some reading that D3 level really effect weight, and a lot of docs don't check for it. I've heard anecdotal stories of people changing nothing other than taking 2000IU of D3 a day and the weight pouring off. Might be worth checking into.
I'm 60. I've lost 55 pounds in the last 18 months and have at least 10 left to go. The laws of physics apply no matter how old you are. I tried for several years to lose weight, and then all of a sudden I got myself in the right place mentally, started eating right and exercising more, and the pounds came off. I'm fitter now than I've been since I was in my 20's, and I feel 10 years younger than I did a year ago. It's never easy, but it is so worth the trouble.
kenyonchris
11-16-2009, 07:17 AM
Chris, I think you glossed over a very important point she was trying to make
it was a whole lot easier to lose weight at 40 than it is at 52. And no, I'm not whining.
No whining detected. It is easier to lose weight at 20 than 40, easier at 40 than 52. Your body burns less effectively than it stores. That is a given, I am not glossing it over at all. But it CAN be done...the advice is for those who are saying that no matter how much they exercise and starve it won't come off. It WILL (unless the body is undergoing some physical problem). The problem is generally that the body has adapted, or is not being challenged in the most efficient manner so as to make it burn effectively. This happens in people of all ages, but is even more important with people who struggle to lose weight.
staceysue
11-16-2009, 07:41 AM
Here's a little encouraging news for those who feel the weight just won't come off no matter what. I'm 40 (but have been through 'that part of my life' because I lost my ovaries) and I have been (am I going to say it out loud?) . . . . . . this is a big leap for me . . . . 152-157 lbs for about 15 years now. I'd take up an exercise program and do it for a few weeks and not see any change and quit, diet and quit, eat terribly for months on end, didn't matter. The great part of it is that my same clothes have fit for a long time. My body had very stubbornly decided that's the size it wanted to be and it wasn't taking any argument from me.
Since I started really cycling - at least 3 times a week, long distances when I have the time but never less than 10 miles, I'm definitely seeing some changes in my body. I've been cycling regularly since late August or early September and, though I felt a lot better, I wasn't seeing changes in my body or on the scale until just over the past week or so. I'm only down to 150, and my clothes still fit, but they're a little looser in places and they just seem to hang better. My body is certainly firmer.
There was a time when I would have seen the changes in 2-3 weeks instead of 2-3 months, but the changes are still happening!
It's slow going, but it's fun. It's not like the old days when I'd starve myself to fit into a size 2 or look in the mirror and cry my eyes out because I jiggled when I jumped up and down. I'm truly enjoying cycling and the way it makes me feel, and it's given me so much self confidence. I feel stronger and happier - and not like I'm trying to make my body fit some supermodel image. I'm not comparing myself to other women all the time, trying to get attention from guys.
I suppose if I was counting calories I'd see changes faster, but I don't want that kind of headache. I'm enjoying being physically active and I'm not pigging out and I rest assured knowing that if it takes me an entire year to lose 5 lbs, it doesn't matter. I'm going to be a year older in a year anyway, right? Time goes by pretty fast and if I'm 15 lbs lighter in 3 years that will be awesome. I've got at least a good 40 years left on this earth and I'm really not in any hurry.
I enjoy cycling and I'm happy that my body can take me the places I want to go!
MomOnBike
11-16-2009, 09:24 AM
I've written (whined) already about how I just don't seem to be able to lose weight, and my frustration.
Still, I know I'd be a LOT bigger if I weren't riding. At least the bike is keeping me (somewhat) under control.
OakLeaf
11-16-2009, 10:22 AM
It's really important to remember that while none of the laws of science change, both "calories in" and "calories out" are about two part physics and eight parts biochemistry.
The same food intake will translate to a wide range of energy input for two different people, and the same activity by two people of the same weight will translate into a wide range of calorie output.
I'm only a year and a half into menopause and haven't yet experienced any of that kind of change (although in the same period of time I've tripled my running mileage and doubled my cycling mileage), but I'm sure not going to dismiss the thousands of women who have experienced it.
kenyonchris
11-16-2009, 10:57 AM
The same food intake will translate to a wide range of energy input for two different people, and the same activity by two people of the same weight will translate into a wide range of calorie output.
Agreed. So will fitness level and a zillion other factors. People who are having trouble losing weight need to look at their calorie output as it pertains to them to avoid that frustration of "I'm doing the same thing as my neighbor and eating less and not losing weight while she is".
It's really important to remember that while none of the laws of science change, both "calories in" and "calories out" are about two part physics and eight parts biochemistry.
The same food intake will translate to a wide range of energy input for two different people, and the same activity by two people of the same weight will translate into a wide range of calorie output.
Now I know a lot more about physics than I do about biochemistry, so this intrigues me. I can understand two people of the same weight and similar lifestyle having a very wide range of calorie output just by watching how differently people move, some people are jumpy and on their feet all the time, some people are slower, relaxed and seem to conserve energy. And I assume how you dress and what temps you're in make a difference too. Which is why I've never really understood how calorie counting can work, it seems to me there are just too many variables in the equation.
But why would the same food intake cause a range of energy input? Do we process food that differently?
People are individuals and each have their own unique physiology.
Genetics, chronic disease, and undiagnosed conditions factor in as well.
A calories -in-calories-out approach is a broad brush.
staceysue
11-16-2009, 10:47 PM
I think those of us who still have time to do it need to get all he weight off that we want off before the big "M" hits! It's a lot harder after.
Bike Chick
11-17-2009, 04:34 AM
I had a complete hysterectomy at age 29 and gained 20 pounds the first 3 months after my surgery. That was 21 years ago and I've struggled with my weight ever since and it gets harder as I get older. The only time I was ever at my pre-surgery weight was when I was going through my divorce--I'm sure everyone's familiar with the divorce diet. My point is that hormones are a huge factor in weight loss/gain for us.
tulip
11-17-2009, 07:38 AM
I went to a Nutritionist today. I don't have an overweight problem. My problem is that I tend to forget to eat, and then I get all spaced out. She suggested that I set an alarm clock for mid-morning snack, lunch, afternoon snack, and supper. That way, I won't forget to eat.
I need to eat more fruits and veggies--5 cups a day. Who here eats five cups of fruits and veggies a day? I will be having fruits and veggies for my snacks, as well as with my meals.
I also need to eat fish twice a week. And plan my menus so when the alarm goes off I won't stand their in front of the fridge wondering what to do.
Those are some useful tips for me. I thought I'd pass them on because some of you might be able to adapt them to your particular situation.
Ritamarie
11-17-2009, 07:46 AM
I'm almost 49 years old, peri-menopausal, 5' 6" and 116#s. I can and have gained weight quite easily. Here's a few things that work for me:
Momentum is my friend. It's easy to put off til tomorrow (I'll ride tomorrow, I'll eat better tomorrow.). I can fall into this trap. What I do TODAY matters. It's not what I do between Christmas and New Years, it's what I do between New Years and Christmas.
Eat carbs on the bike. I'm an extreme reactive hypoglycemic; my body does not like when I eat carbs and wants to store them as fat as quickly as possible. It leaves me feeling "fluffy" and lethargic! Most women I talk to seem to be somewhat hypoglycemic. On the bike I can eat carbs without the hypoglycemic reaction because I'm burning them immediately. Simple carbs are simple carbs. I find I do just as well bringing those favorite cookies along instead of a sports bar (though one of my favorite treats is the Luna chocolate peppermint bar so I use them a lot!). One 180 calorie treat and one 20 oz bottle of very light sports drink every 25 miles is perfect for me. More if I am riding hard. Your results may vary.
Eat protein off the bike. For reasons stated above, I find protein off the bike is the way to go. Tuna fish and eggs are my friends. Not only do we need protein for preserving muscle, but I feel MUCH better, have steady energy and have less cravings. One cookie (off the bike) leads to another cookie. And another. And another.
I try not to fall into the trap of "Well, I rode 30 miles today, I can treat myself". I find this is a sure recipe for weight gain (or at least no weight loss). I try to eat moderately and well between rides. My metabolism will stay high for the day. I try to get my satisfaction and reward from knowing that my furnace is stoked and burning those calories, not from that dish of ice cream.
Besides my normal supplements of a multi, calcium, etc... I use a top quality glucose regulating supplement (chromium, etc) and a menopause balancing supplement (black cohosh etc).
Rita
Pedal Wench
11-17-2009, 07:53 AM
I need to eat more fruits and veggies--5 cups a day. Who here eats five cups of fruits and veggies a day? I will be having fruits and veggies for my snacks, as well as with my meals.
I do! Massively big salad for lunch, huge servings of veggies for dinner, and typically a piece of fruit after lunch and maybe one in the evening after dinner.
I wish I could forget to eat...;)
arielmoon
11-17-2009, 08:35 AM
I am 41, 5'7, approx 130# and peri-menopausal due to an ovariectomy in 2005.
I do! Massively big salad for lunch, huge servings of veggies for dinner, and typically a piece of fruit after lunch and maybe one in the evening after dinner.
I wish I could forget to eat...;)
Yup, big salad for lunch for me too. For a snack I like to drink my whole food supplement because it is packed with whole fruit and vegetable goodness. Another favorite snack is a Lara bar cause they are raw, vegan and yummy!
Dinner for me is really small and I very rarely eat after 7:30PM.
Like Ritamarie I eat protein after riding but I usually eat the carbs before and not during the ride unless I am going to be riding for a while. I am never hungry while actually riding so I have to make myself eat something on the big rides.
tulip
11-17-2009, 08:49 AM
Pedal and Ariel--that's great you eat so many veggies. I don't know you, but as I recall, neither of you are overweight (right?). I was just wondering how many overweight folks eat enough fruits and veggies. Thyroid issues notwithstanding, I would bet that increasing fruits and veggies would help with weight loss, as well as improving health (that's my goal).
I've gotten away from An Apple A Day, but now I'm back on it.
arielmoon
11-17-2009, 09:04 AM
Pedal and Ariel--that's great you eat so many veggies. I don't know you, but as I recall, neither of you are overweight (right?). I was just wondering how many overweight folks eat enough fruits and veggies. Thyroid issues notwithstanding, I would bet that increasing fruits and veggies would help with weight loss, as well as improving health (that's my goal).
I've gotten away from An Apple A Day, but now I'm back on it.
No, I am not overweight but I spent a few years there and I dont ever intend to go back! I am vegan and I am a health foodie. No enriched grains, refined sugars, empty calories or junk food. People think is hard but it is actually really easy. Simple, basic fruits, vegetables, nuts and whole grains. :)
I try to do an apple day so long as it is organic! Apples are one of the most heavily treated with pesticides! If you only eat one organic thing make it apples!
MomOnBike
11-17-2009, 09:08 AM
Oh, I wish I could eat salads. I love them, especially the green, leafy veggies. Sadly, since the embolism (was it really a whole year ago?) I've been on blood thinners. I shouldn't eat the green leafies 'cause they contain Vitamin K, which helps blood clot. So I stay away.
For those of you who point out that I could eat the greens, just the same amount every day, and take more Coumadin (AKA rat poison), yes, I know. The thing is, I'd have to eat the same amount of greens every single day, without fail. I can't guarantee that. Also, I'm taking a fairly hefty dose already - I'm not sure I want to take more.
So I sit and watch (really skinny) DH eat his greens and I whine a lot. (filed under "life ain't fair")
Julie13.1
11-17-2009, 09:26 AM
The thing is, I'd have to eat the same amount of greens every single day, without fail. I can't guarantee that. Also, I'm taking a fairly hefty dose already - I'm not sure I want to take more.
Momonbike,
I have been on coumadin for several years now and will be on it for life. You do not have to eat the same amount of greens every single day without fail.
You just need to be consistent, meaning do not go an entire week without eating leafy greens, then spend the next week eating nothing but greens. Make greens a regular part of your diet and your doctor should adjust your dosage accordingly.
My doctor ENCOURAGES good, healthy eating to include greens. Check with your doctor. BTW, my last embolism was a year ago, too. Congrats to us for being healthy today!:)
Pedal Wench
11-17-2009, 10:26 AM
Pedal and Ariel--that's great you eat so many veggies. I don't know you, but as I recall, neither of you are overweight (right?).
I've gotten away from An Apple A Day, but now I'm back on it.
Much as my distorted body image would argue, I'm probably a healthy weight. I do eat healthy - nothing fried, no beef or pork, no heavy dairy (hardly any dairy at all lately) whole grain everything, fruits, lean proteins, etc.
I did just start using The Daily Plate and was suprised at how many calories I do eat. Who knew a cup of dry-roasted soybeans had 544 calories????
kenyonchris
11-17-2009, 10:44 AM
Momonbike,
I have been on coumadin for several years now and will be on it for life. You do not have to eat the same amount of greens every single day without fail.
You just need to be consistent, meaning do not go an entire week without eating leafy greens, then spend the next week eating nothing but greens. Make greens a regular part of your diet and your doctor should adjust your dosage accordingly.
My doctor ENCOURAGES good, healthy eating to include greens. Check with your doctor. BTW, my last embolism was a year ago, too. Congrats to us for being healthy today!:)
I was on coumadin after a stroke in 2007 and my INR went berzerk with any little deviation in anything. I would go from a 1.2 to a 5.5 (and be getting frantic phone calls!). I stopped eating altogether, and going to the PT clinic every day was a drag. Finally, my hematologist put me on Lovenox, explaining that some people's body simply ping ponged with any dietary changes on coumadin....but injecting it into my stomach twice a day was a drag.
Loraura
11-17-2009, 01:22 PM
And plan my menus so when the alarm goes off I won't stand their in front of the fridge wondering what to do.
This has been most helpful for me. I've lost and kept off 80 pounds for 2 years. It took about 2 years to lose.
Meal planning is key for me. Healthy nutritious balanced meals simply do not fall in my lap. As much as I wish they did, they just don't.
It was a bit more complicated than that. I had specific components of each meal, and weighed and measured unless I was eating out. But in a nutshell... I gatta plan.
A big part of my meal plan for weight loss was no sugar or flour. I could have fruit, but nothing with sugar in the first 3 ingredients (which rules out 90% of prepackaged foods). Veggies at lunch and dinner, with protein. In order to avoid the bread, it takes planning on my part. Regular grocery store trips were imparative, too. Fresh foods don't fall out of my pantry.
When I don't plan, bread looks like a really dang good idea. When I eat bread, I lose nothing. I've tested this for long enough to have convinced myself.
GLC1968
11-17-2009, 02:23 PM
I was just wondering how many overweight folks eat enough fruits and veggies.
I do. I eat 5 - 6 cups a day. And I'm 35-40 lbs over my goal and 45-50 lbs over 'normal' weight for my height.
There is NOTHING wrong with me physically. My diet is chock-full of heathly clean pure, often home-grown, foods. I exercise regularly. I'm not yet at menopause.
A little over a month ago, I got a device to tell me exactly what I am burning (with some error, of course). Turns out, my body is extremely efficient. If civilization comes to an end and there is no more food around, I'll be the one to survive. :p I burn very, very few calories in a day. Very few. It's now obvious to me why I had to eat less than 1000 calories a day to see weight loss just a few years back. It's also why I am struggling so much with getting back on board to do it again. It's HARD and frankly, I'm being a winey baby.
It's great when people suggest giving up soda, eating fruits and veggies, avoiding fast food, working out regularly, parking far away from stores, taking the stairs, lifting weights, wearing a HRM, setting goals, tracking food, weighing food, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to be doing ALL of this stuff and STILL not lose weight.
Tri Girl
11-17-2009, 02:47 PM
Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to be doing ALL of this stuff and STILL not lose weight.
Amen! I eat pretty healthy, workout 6 days a week (for 40 min to over an hour each time), don't drink soda, eat my fruits and veggies and am still overweight. My DH will just stop drinking coke for a week and drop 5 lbs- no kidding. I'd have to not eat anything for a month to lose 5 lbs.
Sometimes I truly think that our bodies find a weight that is comfortable and can function fine and be healthy at. Mine is just about 20 lbs over what is considered my "normal healthy" weight.
Blueberry
11-17-2009, 03:54 PM
PI was just wondering how many overweight folks eat enough fruits and veggies. Thyroid issues notwithstanding, I would bet that increasing fruits and veggies would help with weight loss, as well as improving health (that's my goal).
I've gotten away from An Apple A Day, but now I'm back on it.
I'm overweight (not saying how much), and yes, I eat enough fruits and veggies. When I eat grains, they're whole, and in calorie controlled portions. Lots less dairy than I used to. Lean protein. Yeah, my diet is great.
As others have said, some of us are very efficient in our use of calories:p:rolleyes:
CA
tulip
11-17-2009, 04:02 PM
For once, efficiency is not what's needed! Good for all you who eat so well. I aspire to your good habits and good health! Blueberry, if it hadn't been for your avatar, I would not have known who you are.
I enjoyed my apple this afternoon. Since I haven't planned any supper today (that starts tomorrow), looks like I'm going to have some soup. Bread or cereal's looking mighty easy, though.
Pedal Wench
11-17-2009, 04:15 PM
For once, efficiency is not what's needed! Good for all you who eat so well. I aspire to your good habits and good health! Blueberry, if it hadn't been for your avatar, I would not have known who you are.
I enjoyed my apple this afternoon. Since I haven't planned any supper today (that starts tomorrow), looks like I'm going to have some soup. Bread or cereal's looking mighty easy, though.
See, now, take that soup and cook in some shredded cabbage (store-bought next to the bagged lettuce) and a big double-handful of spinach. Done!
tctrek
11-17-2009, 04:19 PM
I do. I eat 5 - 6 cups a day. And I'm 35-40 lbs over my goal and 45-50 lbs over 'normal' weight for my height.
There is NOTHING wrong with me physically. My diet is chock-full of heathly clean pure, often home-grown, foods. I exercise regularly. I'm not yet at menopause.
A little over a month ago, I got a device to tell me exactly what I am burning (with some error, of course). Turns out, my body is extremely efficient. If civilization comes to an end and there is no more food around, I'll be the one to survive. :p I burn very, very few calories in a day. Very few. It's now obvious to me why I had to eat less than 1000 calories a day to see weight loss just a few years back. It's also why I am struggling so much with getting back on board to do it again. It's HARD and frankly, I'm being a winey baby.
It's great when people suggest giving up soda, eating fruits and veggies, avoiding fast food, working out regularly, parking far away from stores, taking the stairs, lifting weights, wearing a HRM, setting goals, tracking food, weighing food, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to be doing ALL of this stuff and STILL not lose weight.
(((GLC))) You just told the story of my life.
tulip
11-17-2009, 04:34 PM
See, now, take that soup and cook in some shredded cabbage (store-bought next to the bagged lettuce) and a big double-handful of spinach. Done!
Yes, I have some leftover kale and that's going in the soup! Ta-da!
And GLC and Blueberry--you're both beautiful! (tctreck, I've never seen ya' so I can't comment, but I would wager that you are, too.)
Apples are one of the most heavily treated with pesticides! If you only eat one organic thing make it apples!
Dish soap works. Organic food is beyond my budget.
Life is short and should be enjoyed. All this diet and organics and 7 cups of vegetables a day is harshing my buzz.
I'm going to make a banana split.
owlice
11-17-2009, 04:58 PM
:: sits next to Zen at the banana split table ::
tulip
11-17-2009, 05:19 PM
5 cups of fruits and veggies. Bananas count, even in the form of a banana split. Hey, it's a fruit, right?
Possegal
11-17-2009, 05:58 PM
5 cups of fruits and veggies. Bananas count, even in the form of a banana split. Hey, it's a fruit, right?
Don't forget the cherry on top!
Blueberry
11-17-2009, 06:36 PM
For once, efficiency is not what's needed! Good for all you who eat so well. I aspire to your good habits and good health! Blueberry, if it hadn't been for your avatar, I would not have known who you are.
Heh. I figured it was time to be a bit less obvious on the location thing:) Left the avatar so as not to cause total confusion:D (and the new name has nothing to do with this thread - I swear!)
Some days are better than others. Today wasn't great, but wasn't terrible either. Apple for breakfast, yogurt for a mid-am snack, sushi with veggies for lunch, sliced tomatoes (some of the last from our garden) on locally made bread with locally made cheese and a huge salad (also local greens) with orange slices and toasted almond slivers for dinner.
CA
ny biker
11-17-2009, 07:07 PM
5 cups of fruits and veggies. Bananas count, even in the form of a banana split. Hey, it's a fruit, right?
Blueberry pie from Trader Joes has several grams of fiber per slice. Just sayin'.
kenyonchris
11-18-2009, 12:21 PM
Blueberry pie from Trader Joes has several grams of fiber per slice. Just sayin'.
I am eating Hershey Kisses. Do they count as anything?
Blueberry
11-18-2009, 12:58 PM
I am eating Hershey Kisses. Do they count as anything?
Antioxidants - gotta have those too:D:D
GLC1968
11-18-2009, 01:14 PM
Antioxidants - gotta have those too:D:D
And aren't they made from Cacao beans? (beans - right?!) - I'd say that all chocolate gets to be vegetables by genealogy. ;)
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