ridewithgps.com - a great mapping tool (no GPS required)

[jobob]

Check out Ride with GPS (http://ridewithgps.com/) -- this looks to be an excellent ride mapping / ride logging tool.

[SadieKate]

Wow, it's probably the prettiest and fastest site of those I've looked at. Has some nice interactive features and is well laid out. May have to play with it.

[SadieKate]

Oh. wow. It builds a wicked cool cue sheet also. I can't believe how fast and easy it is. Score, jo! Did you tell Gunther?

I haven't compared actual real live measured stats, but even the elevation gain/loss looks pretty close.

I can't quite figure out how to generate a link to a specific route, but it's probably just the operator.

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/9332

[BikingNurse]

Thank you for the link!!! I have been messing with it and I love this site. I was using map my ride/fitness and that one kept having problems. Thank you thank you!!

[SadieKate]

The admin over at SportTracks is even asking if anyone is using it. Post and maybe we'll see an interface.

http://www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/Forums/viewtopic.php?p=35382#35382

I think I'm going to switch allegiance to this site.

Thanks again, jo.

~The Babbling Fool

[Grog]

VERY cool indeed.

Your route showed up on top when I logged in, by the way, SK.

[redrhodie]

Great site! Thanks for posting that link!

[SadieKate]

Your route showed up on top when I logged in, by the way, SK.Yes, and I'm already sinking to the bottom. :p Literally.

[Bike Chick]

Great site!!! Thanks for the link.

[jobob]

Thank our pal SloJoeRecumbo who posted about it over on Bike Journal. I'm just a messenger :)

[wildeny]

I have problem of using this site with Firefox and Opera: Cannot "jump" to the city that I just enter. But don't have this problem with IE. :rolleyes:

In FAQ, it said that they tested the site with Firefox & Opera but .... don't know what's wrong. I'm sure that I have Flash player ...

[Zen]

Yes, and I'm already sinking to the bottom. :p Literally.

Oh, don't worry about that. I'll be logged in there soon.

[zackham]

I have problem of using this site with Firefox and Opera: Cannot "jump" to the city that I just enter. But don't have this problem with IE. :rolleyes:

In FAQ, it said that they tested the site with Firefox & Opera but .... don't know what's wrong. I'm sure that I have Flash player ...

I generally use Firefox 3.5 and jumping to a location works fine if I hit enter when I'm in the field, or if I click on the button. I have not tried opera recently though. If you are just hitting enter, try clicking on the button, that might work. If it still doesn't work, please let me know what operating system you are using and the exact browser version (Help -> About on Windows, Firefox -> About Firefox on a Mac).

I'm one of three guys behind the site and noticed some traffic coming in from this forum. Couldn't be happier that the site is being well received. We love working on it and it is getting better very rapidly. If you run into some limitations and wish it could do something it currently doesn't, just let us know through the Feedback button up top - we take suggestions very seriously and your feedback determines what features we implement first.

Thanks!
Zack

[nscrbug]

Wow!!! This mapping site is fantastic! Clearly, the best and easiest that I've ever used. If this is just the "beta" version, I can't wait to see the full-blown version. It gets a HUGE thumbs up from me!

[ny biker]

Well I must be an idiot because I can't figure out how to even get it to start in Arlington VA instead of the Pacific NW, which is where it defaulted to.

But then I find bikely and mapmyride to be infuriating, so maybe I'm map-drawing-impaired.

Update. And then the browser crashed, and then when I tried to Start Over it put a new starting point in the middle of whatever body of water is between Greenland and Newfoundland.

WTF?

Update 2: okay, now I'm able to map my local after-work training route -- except for the parts that are on a bike trail. I have the same problems with bikely and map my ride. How do you include bike trails when they're based on google maps, which don't include them?

It does work much better than bikely and mapmyride, though. Unfortunately without including bike trails, none of these sites helps me.

[SadieKate]

Well I must be an idiot because I can't figure out how to even get it to start in Arlington VA instead of the Pacific NW, which is where it defaulted to.Are you trying to draw a route? At the top right corner, type in your city and state in the blank box next to the box that says JUMP!. Enter the city and state, and click JUMP!

[ny biker]

I finally figured that part out. It took me a while to figure out that "Jump" means "Select Starting Point."

But as a I said, anything that excludes bike trails is no help to me, so it's moot.

[dakay]

If you know where the bike trail is on the map, just click on draw line instead of follow roads and draw the line on the bike trail. Then go back to follow road when you get back on the road.

Kathy

[maillotpois]

This is a very cool site!! I just did a quick and dirty route (an estimate of tomorrow's Gran Fondo) that it would have taken ages to work out in Topo.

[azfiddle]

I looked at this site and thought it was pretty cool too. Thanks for sharing it.

[jobob]

Some bike trails show up when you're mapping a route - just make sure when you're in the "draw a route page" to click on "cycling" instead of "driving" (you'll see those options on the right hand side of the route page).

Even though I'm surprised & pleased with how many trails do show up on RWG, some still simply don't show up. For instance, the Alameda Creek trail in Fremont CA, which I ride a lot, doesn't show up on google maps, and it doesn't show up on RWG either. Oh well. I've found that you can still see some trails, such as the ACT, if you view the map with the "satellite" or "hybrid" viewing option. But the follow paths option won't work and you'll have to map the route point-to-point. Oh well, them's the breaks.

[Chile Pepper]

Wow--that's amazing. I don't usually bother with these things, since they never apply to my area, but that came with my little town, with amazingly accurate detail. I just mapped one of my favorite routes, and it was within a kilometer on the distance calculator. I'm impressed.

[wildeny]

I generally use Firefox 3.5 and jumping to a location works fine if I hit enter when I'm in the field, or if I click on the button. I have not tried opera recently though. If you are just hitting enter, try clicking on the button, that might work. If it still doesn't work, please let me know what operating system you are using and the exact browser version (Help -> About on Windows, Firefox -> About Firefox on a Mac).

Zack, I just tried, and this time it did work. I really don't know what went wrong last time. :confused:

I'm going to play on this site a little and see whether it is better than the one I'm using now (Bikemap). ;)

Update:

I notice that I cannot drag the point (e.g. the last point) to other place. If I want to change some part of the route, what should I do? Undo (how many undos are allowed)? Start over? :confused:

[GLC1968]

I haven't tried this with my GPS yet, but as a mapping tool, it ROCKS!

Thanks for alerting us Jo...and thanks for making the site, Zack!

[MtnBikerChk]

I was skeptical but HOLY COW! Slick and way better than mapmyride.com!

[withm]

Well at first I could not get it to run at all. I guess the website was too busy. Tried again, and yes, it makes the maps really fast, and appears to make a nice cue sheet. But... there are two problems.

1. The cue sheet skips turns. It looks like the total mileage is probably good, but it totally missed 3 turns on my sample, that are clearly depicted in the corresponding map.

2. I can't figure out any way to print the thing. The cue sheet gets all intermingled and scrambled with other stuff on the page. I could not find any options to get around that.

3. A work around - I copied and pasted the cue sheet into Excel, and printed that - which is when I discovered the problems of missing turns on the cue.

If you KNOW your route, then you can easily check the cue sheet, but if you are mapping out a new route - well - take the cue with a grain of salt. If you might be running into cold or darkness - you might want to drive the route first to make sure all the details are recorded properly.

[jobob]

Surprise, the very first item in the FAQ (http://ridewithgps.com/faq) just happens to address that.

I'll post it here for everyone's edification ...

Help! Cuesheet entries are wrong!


You may notice a right turn should actually be a left, east should be west or other such inconsistencies. This is unfortunately a common problem, however the issue is not with our software. What is most likely happening is this: you are happily mapping along some road, and you are coming up on a turn and click on the intersection of the turn before clicking along the new street. What happens is Google misinterprets the click in the intersection and continues on, then thinks you need to turn around in order to make that turn. This also can happen when you are just traveling straight along a street: clicking near an intersection can cause Google to think you want to turn there, which will cause an extra unnecessary entry in the cuesheet as well as a little blip on the map. To keep this problem from happening, map with a higher zoom level. This will allow you to easily see when these 'blips' occur, letting you know to undo the last click and try again. Also, when mapping some turn, instead of clicking the intersection of the turn, click past the intersection in the direction you wish to turn.

Remember, always double check your cuesheet before saving a route -- we don't want you or someone who finds your route making erroneous turns! It only takes a minute or so to double check a cuesheet and remove any unnecessary entries. This problem is not unique to us, even Map My Ride announced it in a recent newsletter. Here is what they said:
When using "follow roads" and trying to map your route around or through an intersection, make sure that you click on points after the intersection rather than directly in the intersection. Setting points in this way guards against slight, unintentional detours around intersections and ensures accuracy in your maps.


And they address cue sheet printing in the FAQ too:

Cue sheet printing


We are aware our current cuesheet printing is sub-par, and are actively creating a high quality map and cuesheet PDF generator. You will be able to either save the PDF or print at your leisure. Keep checking back for this feature!



One of the many things I like about this site is that the developers are open to suggestions, are not hesitant to point out things that the site still lacks, and it looks like they're working on addressing those issues. It's still a work in progress but they're certainly getting there, IMHO.

[crazycanuck]

I think i'll have to wait a while before some more Western Australians find the site :o as so far there's only one route for Perth

[OakLeaf]

The elevation gain seems pretty darn close.

Haven't tried to export a route yet, though. Will see how that works.

Thanks!!

[pinkbikes]

This is great! Much better than Bikely or Map My Ride! Many thanks!

I have just created the Noosa triathlon leg that I have to ride in a few weeks (I was having a little worry about the climb and wanted to know how steep it was because I'd heard it was a bit ugly) and in no time I'd whipped through and exported it as a GPX. Now I just have to try to load it onto my Garmin and work out what I'd actually do with it once I got it there?:confused: I tend to use the Garmin to get information out rather than to put stuff into it!

[OakLeaf]

Pink, which Garmin?

I totally rely on my 705 for mapping. I'm the kind of person who could get lost in a football field, and I have a phobia of being lost, so I get panicky and more lost. My Garmin has been such a comfort to me, never mind the accumulated hours it's saved me from having to stop at intersections, pull out map and magnifier, try to figure out where I am on the map.... I'm to the point now where I actually get annoyed if an organized ride hasn't posted a downloadable public route. It's the 21st century, people, has been for almost 10 years. :rolleyes:

Haven't tried it with my 310 yet. I kind of wanted to do that yesterday, but like an idiot I'd forgotten my ANT+ stick at home and had no way to get a route into the watch. :rolleyes: I understand that wireless-only syncing probably lets them make the 310's that much more waterproof, but my first impression of it is that it's a PITA. A sealed locking USB port cover, like waterproof cameras have (and unlike the floppy useless port covers that prior Garmin units have), would be so much simpler...

[pinkbikes]

I have the 705. I have donwloaded plenty of maps to it - all the local trail maps for the forests I MTB in for example - and have the local street maps too (although I accidentally forgot to reload them last time so I only have high level street maps atm).

But then I'm probably the opposite to you - head like a compass - and I hardly ever look a the maps when I'm out riding. I did a little bit when we went on our 9 day cycle tour the other week just to see how close I was to the next town. But otherwise I tend more to use it as a handy dandy cycle computer with lots of geeky info to look at and I like the download to see what that grade was on the stinky hill and how my heart rate was doing and how many calories I have burned etc. Like I said - I'm more used to dragging info out of it than putting it in!! Must get more into that.

I must read the instructions and see how to do the virtual training partner thing because that would probably be really useful for when I repeat the same ride in training by myself.

[OakLeaf]

I never use the Virtual Partner, so can't help you there. I think you need to create a course from history in Training Center. But navigating a route is easy.

To navigate a route you've saved as a .gpx, all you have to do is connect the unit to the computer so it appears as a USB drive, then drag the .gpx into the Garmin>GPX folder on the unit. Then when you want to navigate it, go to Menu>Where To?>Saved Rides and all the routes you've uploaded to the 705 will appear in a list. Then choose Navigate (it can take a while to load). It'll beep at you and give turn-by-turn directions, and appear as a pink line on the map screen.

Just be sure, under Menu>Navigation, either disable Auto Recalculate or set it to Prompted. Otherwise, whenever the unit thinks you're off the route (which sometimes happens when you're actually on the route), it will go wacky. I prefer setting it to Prompted, which does two things: (1) a prompt lets me know if I actually am off the route, and (2) it will continue navigating. If auto recalculation is disabled, then once you get off the route, it'll stop giving turn-by-turn directions even when you get back on it. The route will still appear on your map screen, you just won't get directions.

[wildeny]

This is great! Much better than Bikely or Map My Ride! Many thanks!

Have you tried Bikemap.net? This is my main site for route collections and training log.

[pinkbikes]

I never use the Virtual Partner, so can't help you there. I think you need to create a course from history in Training Center. But navigating a route is easy.

To navigate a route you've saved as a .gpx, all you have to do is connect the unit to the computer so it appears as a USB drive, then drag the .gpx into the Garmin>GPX folder on the unit. Then when you want to navigate it, go to Menu>Where To?>Saved Rides and all the routes you've uploaded to the 705 will appear in a list. Then choose Navigate (it can take a while to load). It'll beep at you and give turn-by-turn directions, and appear as a pink line on the map screen.

Just be sure, under Menu>Navigation, either disable Auto Recalculate or set it to Prompted. Otherwise, whenever the unit thinks you're off the route (which sometimes happens when you're actually on the route), it will go wacky. I prefer setting it to Prompted, which does two things: (1) a prompt lets me know if I actually am off the route, and (2) it will continue navigating. If auto recalculation is disabled, then once you get off the route, it'll stop giving turn-by-turn directions even when you get back on it. The route will still appear on your map screen, you just won't get directions.

Oooh - thanks a bunch OakLeaf! Not only do I not have to RTFM now, but I think you just solved my DH's problem with the time he set it to navigate him to somewhere and he got off the course (he has one too)! Yay!:D

Now I know who to ask when I have another geek moment and want to expand my use fo the Garmin! :)

[smilingcat]

I like this site better than ***** mapping software. It was easier to use and the route info stayed on the street. This is great. Now I may have to buy a garmin. sheesh... :(

[ipanema]

I will try this one, on my next tour, till now i have been playing with this one:
http://sportypal.com/Community