"glamor and nude" rant

[TsPoet]

I belong to a photo forum. It's great and full of professionals that give wonderful tips to people who post their photos - they are frank and harsh There is a subforum entitled "glamour and nude". Nudes can be beautiful art, and judging by the art in the "wildlife" and "landscape" threads, that's what I was expecting.
How come these guy's can't see that a gross crotch shot is not art? I'm appalled at the several page encouragement of a guy who hired two models to put vampire teeth in and wear thong bathing suits. This could be art, but is just icky.
Why can they see that a sea anemone needs a different composition, but not a partially naked girl? I've started to post a reply to some of these shots a few times, as critique is expected, but I keep stopping myself. I really don't get it.
You can only access the glamour and nude section if you become a member, but if anyone wants to see what I'm talking about - and maybe tell my I'm being ridiculous.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php

[Biciclista]

trust your instincts. I'm not going to take a gander at crotch shots, sorry.

[NoNo]

Have you ever checked out Digital Grin? It's the user forum for Smugmug and there are some exceptionally talented photographers on there. They, too, recently opened a subforum for nude shots. I haven't checked it myself, but I would expect, based on the content and personalities on the rest of the site that there wouldn't be barely-disguised porn there.

[TsPoet]

Have you ever checked out Digital Grin? It's the user forum for Smugmug and there are some exceptionally talented photographers on there. They, too, recently opened a subforum for nude shots. I haven't checked it myself, but I would expect, based on the content and personalities on the rest of the site that there wouldn't be barely-disguised porn there.

I'll check it out. On the forum above, though, there is a thread saying Smugmug is down - just an FYI.

I think you hit the nail on the head - my objection isn't really what the photos are, it's that the rest of the site indicates they shouldn't be barely-disguised porn. and, the men on the forum don't even recognize that they aren't to the level of the rest of the photos.
I actually recommend the rest of the forum, pick your preferred photo type (landscape, cityscape, birds...) and peruse, some absolutely wonderful shots have been posted.
The glamour and nudes section does have some photos guys have posted of wives/girlfriends and those are often sweet. So, that reinstates my faith in the men somewhat.