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MM_QFC!
07-30-2009, 09:31 AM
Hey Mimi, Salsabike and any others who either are riding or supporting a RAMROD rider today: could you keep us posted as to their experience(s) please?
Best wishes to all for a safe, fun (??:eek:) ride...
salsabike
07-30-2009, 10:45 AM
Will do. Haven't heard anything yet.
MM_QFC!
07-30-2009, 12:47 PM
Yeah, and I know that the route not only physically challenging but also for communicating from fringe coverage areas too.
ttaylor508
07-30-2009, 04:27 PM
Yes, please do post ride reports. I was thinking about all of you as I got up for work at 4:30am and it was already 73 degrees. Hope the mountains provided you a little shelter from the heat!
LilBolt
07-30-2009, 05:17 PM
I heard from my DH about an hour ago. He said it was hot (duh) but he had a good ride...one flat (rear, of course) just outside of Enumclaw. The heat wasn't as bad as they thought it would be. That's probably because he was mentally prepared for it to be bad. The plan was to get as many miles in as they could before it really got hot, and then just take it easy & pace themselves. They did skip the ride up to Crystal. Apparently several people were having the same discussion. As expected, Cayuse was the toughest part, but isn't it always?
Hope to read some first-hand accounts here from those who did it themselves.
Biciclista
07-30-2009, 06:07 PM
Raleighdon finished around 6pm he said it was really hard on a tandem, harder than death ride on a single. YA THINK?
salsabike
07-30-2009, 06:22 PM
Chris just called. He probably finished around 6:30. He DID do the last pass at the end but only because, he said, he was still feeling pretty good. He said they had a fair amount of shade, even on Cayuse Pass (till the last four miles), which made it more bearable than direct sun would have been. He took his time, drank a lot, stopped and sat in the shade for a few minutes when he needed to. They did a smart thing---handed out tube socks with ice that you could put around your neck, and he said he refilled his sock with ice at every stop and kept it on his neck. Sounds like he handled it intelligently and I was relieved to hear from him. It was both longer and harder than last year.
LilBolt
07-30-2009, 06:56 PM
Ice filled tube socks...that's brilliant.
MM_QFC!
07-30-2009, 07:54 PM
Great job and congrats to all RAMROD riders - am sure it WAS tougher - whew!
Yes, the tube sock is a great idea and my PT/coach who rode RAAM some years back, gave me what she used in the desert before I did an AIDS ride across Montana. It's a modified pillow case, (you can make 3-4 out of 1 case) cut and sewn into a tube leaving the opening intact, putting velcro fastener there, so you can open it, fill it up, close it around your neck and keep going. It doesn't stretch as much or flop around like the tube sock did and those cold drips on my quads as the ice melted while I rode was a godsend!
salsabike
07-31-2009, 07:21 AM
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malaholic
07-31-2009, 11:25 AM
I think this was the first ride where I've ever been sweating before even getting on the bike. :)
DH and I were riding with "Team Boeing" - 3 other guys who he knows from work with whom we've done several training rides. This was the first RAMROD for each of us and we planned to try & pace ourselves, as we didn't quite know what to expect later on. We started riding around 5:10 am. Once we got moving and got the evaporation effect, the first 55ish miles up to the Ashford/Wildwood rest stop were downright pleasant.
I was disappointed this year that the route had to be altered to eliminate the climb to Paradise due to damage coming down Stevens Canyon (and even more so to learn that they were reopening the road THAT DAY, just not til evening.) The rider intro packet described the alternate route and had a statement something to the effect of "We think you will find Skate Creek Road a very pleasant place to ride..." NOT! The first 11 miles were fine, but the road for the last 9ish miles (all descending) was in terrible condition. Lots of holes, very uneven surface, and several places where there was no longer any asphalt - just stripes from maybe about 3 ft. wide to the largest of maybe 25 ft. wide across the road where the gap between the asphalt was filled with large gravel. Luckily there was good signage in those areas, and a volunteer parked before the first pit to tell us what to expect so that we could slow down in time. Too bad, because if the road had been smooth, that would have been a really fun descent.
By this time it had really started heating up. We did the little "warmup climb" to the food stop at mile 85-or-so, where we were given the ice-filled tube socks. Those are a terrific invention, and we are so grateful to the support team for providing them - they *really* helped keep us going for the climbs.
A few more miles, and then Cayuse Pass, which I'd always heard is an oven. As salsabike posted there was a little shade, but really only small spots to stop & rest - there was no part of the climb that had constant shade to ride in. According to my Garmin, it's a constant 6% grade over 8 or 9 miles, with one water stop a little past the halfway point. I have done climbs of objectively greater difficulty before, but subjectively, it felt like the hardest climb I've ever done. It was probably just a combination of the heat, not getting much sleep the night before, and having already put in a lot of miles. (Oh, and of having to ride on my heavier wheelset because one of my climbing wheels was damaged a few weeks ago.) DH was feeling strong though, and he actually beat me up Cayuse Pass and later Crystal too - that *never* happens! It's the first time this season that he's outclimbed me. I'm super-proud of him but I told him he better not get used to it. ;)
The descent from Cayuse was a blast and we were down to the deli stop in no time. We filled up our now melted-out socks with new ice for the climb to Crystal. There was more shade on that climb. 3 miles of so of constant 6% grade, then it flattened out a bit, then went back to 5 or 6 % to the top. But the best part was knowing that it's all downhill from there!
The Crystal descent was in pretty good shape and you could feel the temperature rising as you went back down. Another deli stop, then off to battle the headwind and finish the ride. Although I was slower than usual climbing, I still felt pretty strong and I spent most of my time in front of the draft line on the way back. We were treated to one last super-smooth descent on Mud Mountain Dam road, then the finish line! And ice cream, which really hit the spot.
The scenery was nice, especially those "window" spots along the route where you catch a glimpse of Rainier. If I ever do this ride again (which I said yesterday I wouldn't, but today here I am already planning it out...) I hope it will be the standard route that climbs to Paradise. I think that route would be gorgeous.
Finally, we all really appreciated the efforts of the onsite volunteers and the crossing-guard policemen - it can't have been fun for any of them to be out in the heat all day, but they did, and they were quick to offer words of encouragement along with the food & water. We also appreciate the pre-ride volunteer work that went into coordinating the ride, especially given the extra supplies and new water stops. And the ice socks which saved the day! So, for those of you whose husbands or friends volunteered, please pass our thanks along to them!
malaholic
07-31-2009, 11:27 AM
Hey! Salsabike, I just noticed, in the photo you posted, that is one of my group in the blue & white jersey in the background! cool. :) I like the sock on the head -it pretty much sums up how everyone felt. :)
Biciclista
07-31-2009, 11:34 AM
wow, what a ride report!
MM_QFC!
07-31-2009, 11:37 AM
9782
way to go, Chris - and he even looks happy?? whattaguy!
LilBolt
07-31-2009, 02:03 PM
Malaholic...great report, and congratulations. Sure leaves me glad & disappointed at the same time that I didn't get in this year (first time I've tried).
My DH was riding in his Boeing Australia jersey). Those jersey's the Everett folks ordered looks a bit cooler with the lighter colors...I saw several on STP, too.
DH did share some more detail rides this morning. He did ride w/ (& behind ;)) Raleighdon for a while. Really enjoyed talking to him. Skate Creek Road also wasn't a highlight, but overall, he thought this year's alternate route was better than the alternate a couple of years ago. Hopefully we'll be spared any nasty weather & damage to the park this winter so the traditional route can be ridden next year.
malaholic
07-31-2009, 02:45 PM
My DH was riding in his Boeing Australia jersey
Oooh, then I think we did meet him! Nice guy (but you already knew that). He mentioned that he got the jersey through Boeing Australia and that it took many weeks for him to finally get it. I kind of liked the design on his version better aesthetically, though having more white was probably good on such a hot ride. DH also works at Boeing but doesn't have the jersey - he was wearing his Native Planet jersey and I was in an 09 STP jersey. I'm not sure if your husband would remember meeting us two or not; we showed up more toward the end of the conversation.
An addendum to my ride report...there were biting flies all over the place! And for some reason, every single one of the dozen or so bites I got just started to itch at the exact same moment. Urgh!
I uploaded the route information from my GPS, minus the first few miles off of Cayuse Pass when I forgot to restart it: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/10216204.
anorange
07-31-2009, 08:46 PM
Great ride report Malaholic. You captured the experience of the ride very well. The only good thing about those flies were that they made me get back on my bike and keep pedaling because then they weren't quite as fierce. Today all the pain of yesterday is rapidly fading and I'm also saying "maybe next year" which is not what I was thinking yesterday.
anorange
07-31-2009, 08:47 PM
PS, I'm a member of Native Planet and was also wearing my Native Planet jersey. Do you or your DH ride with Native Planet?
teigyr
07-31-2009, 09:41 PM
Great ride report Malaholic. You captured the experience of the ride very well. The only good thing about those flies were that they made me get back on my bike and keep pedaling because then they weren't quite as fierce. Today all the pain of yesterday is rapidly fading and I'm also saying "maybe next year" which is not what I was thinking yesterday.
I am SO proud you did this ride! It sounds harsh...and I am going to be seriously intimidated if 'n when we ride again :)
Wow. Just wow. And for all the others who did it, I am so impressed. There's a lot of things I would do but this is not one of them.
LilBolt
08-01-2009, 08:21 AM
Malaholic...DH does remember you guys. If your DH is interested in the Australia jersey, I believe they are planning to order more. PM me and I'll pass along the contact info for him.
DH also mentioned the biting flies...yikes. My favorite line he wrote to our friends in his ride report describing the climb up Cayuse: "At one point the butterflys were dancing in the air next to me. I tried to draft them but they were too strong and just floated up the road ahead of me." Apparently the heat brought out the poet in him.
malaholic
08-01-2009, 12:28 PM
PS, I'm a member of Native Planet and was also wearing my Native Planet jersey. Do you or your DH ride with Native Planet?
Oh cool! DH and I just joined Native planet a couple months ago. We had never heard of the organization before but while researching rides to do for the year we came across the Native Planet Classic ride, so we researched it a little more & signed up! Everyone we met during NPC was super-nice (we saw a couple of them again while doing RAMROD) so I'd really like to do some more rides with Native Planet and get to know more folks in the club. I keep wanting to go on one of the Thurs. evening rides but I don't usually get off work til 6:30.
I'm eyeing the ride next weekend up Hurricane Ridge, and the Sunrise ride on the 23rd. I might end up having to work some Saturdays in Aug. so I'm not sure yet if I can attend but they look like great rides. Are you going to do either of those?
If your DH is interested in the Australia jersey, I believe they are planning to order more. PM me and I'll pass along the contact info for him.
Thank you! I will let him know. I'm not sure if he'll invest in another jersey this year since he bought a few from our rides, but I will ask him. Then maybe he wouldn't feel like the odd one out while riding with the other guys. :)
anorange
08-01-2009, 01:04 PM
I wasn't even looking at rides past RAMROD. Depends on how my knees are feeling when I start riding again. It also depends on the family and their car needs, we only have one car. I do like going on the Saturday rides though. A great bunch of people!
Susan126
08-02-2009, 05:32 AM
Great reports on this year's RAMROD! Once again I did not make the lottery so I didn't ride in this year's RAMROD. I have done the RAMROD twice before. But I did ride the Native Planet Classic in June which was a great ride!
anorange and malaholic, I didn't know Native Planet had organized rides? Where do they ride or post their rides? I really LOVED riding the NPC this June! It was totally awesome! Coming down Washington Pass TWICE was worth the climbing! :D
anorange
08-02-2009, 08:19 AM
They ride on Tuesday nights at 6:00 out of Issaquah and Thursday nights a 6 out of Log Boom Park in Kenmore. Lots of hill training, about 25-30 miles. Weekend rides vary location and distance. Check out their website: ride4areason.org. Look under 'Events Calendar' for details. We'd love to have you join us!
Susan126
08-02-2009, 11:05 AM
OMG anorange . . . the listed rides are HILLY and STEEP! You guys must be in serious hill climbing shape. I may have to start off with a social/recovery ride if I do come! :p Thanks for the info!
anorange
08-02-2009, 12:51 PM
Susan, if you did the NPC, you can do these rides! The Thursday night rides out of Kenmore follow much the same route as the 7 Hills of Kirkland ride. Depending on how many riders show up they break into different groups depending on speed. If there's only a small group everyone basically stays together. I am the slowest of the bunch and still keep up because everyone regroups at the top of the hills.
Susan126
08-03-2009, 05:53 AM
Susan, if you did the NPC, you can do these rides! The Thursday night rides out of Kenmore follow much the same route as the 7 Hills of Kirkland ride. Depending on how many riders show up they break into different groups depending on speed. If there's only a small group everyone basically stays together. I am the slowest of the bunch and still keep up because everyone regroups at the top of the hills.
anorange, thanks for the encouragement! I would hate to bump you from your spot as "slowest of the bunch" (which I doubt you are) . . . and I LOVED the NPC! It was the first time I did it and I had a great ride! I really didn't get enough training in before the ride and hope that next year will be better for me. Maybe next year I will find you guys and train with you! :D I did make it though. Here is my ride report on my first NPC:
My Ride Report on the 2009 Native Planet Classic (http://cycling-addict.blogspot.com/2009/06/2009-native-planet-classic.html)
malaholic
08-03-2009, 11:47 AM
Susan, great ride report, thank you for posting! I don't think you & I officially met during the ride, but we must've seen you as that's me & DH in the photo of the Washington Pass rest stop by the Native Planet banner. Seeing your photos in the ride report makes me really want to get a little digital camera that will fit in my jersey pocket so that I could capture the ride like you did. I really would have liked having one going over Washington Pass....it's just so pretty out there.
Question for those of you who rode RAMROD or know someone who did...did you/they get one of the little yellow RAMROD reflector bands that wrap around a bike tube in your registration packet? One guy in our group got one in his packet but the rest of us did not. I'm wondering where/how to get one...it'd be a nice little badge of honor for my trusty bike. :)
maillotpois
08-03-2009, 02:45 PM
This sounds like a GREAT ride - we just rode motorcycles a bit around the area (from SF to Seattle and back, and on the way back we went around Mt. Ranier) and I think it would be fabulous cycling terrain.
Well done all of you - especially with the atypically hot weather you all were having!
anorange
08-03-2009, 04:10 PM
I did not get one of the little reflective RAMROD bands either. I know friends who have them from years' past. I thought they didn't do it this year as a cost saving measure. If you find out how to get one let me know.:)
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