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channlluv
07-14-2009, 07:33 AM
Forgive me, because as I write this it's making more sense to me, but I'm watching the Tour on Versus.com and the Phil Liggett just mentioned that it's time for a nature break for the riders and then they'd get back to race. There was what sounded like a break in the audio, but it was hardly noticable.
Do they actually stop the race for everyone to use a restroom? I didn't notice any portapotties anywhere.
I guess they'd have to stop at some point, riding this far for this long. I'd just never heard this before on the race commentary.
I know there are relief stops with food and water on century rides. D*H has done one and he told me about it. He mentioned a portapotty. It just never occurred to me that an elite race like this would have scheduled relief stops.
Do they all?
Roxy - feeling very much the noob right now. Ha!
Veronica
07-14-2009, 07:35 AM
A nature break is when the riders just pull over to the side and do what they need to do, no portapotties.
Generally they only mention it when they happen to catch it on video. Most of the riders tend to be rather discreet about it I think.
Veronica
Tri Girl
07-14-2009, 07:41 AM
I saw a picture from last year's Tour that had riders as far as the eye could see lining both sides of the road taking care of business. They didn't even dismount their bikes- just stopped to do their thing. I found it to be hilarious.
Let's see if I can find it:
this one is close:
http://www.velonews.com/photo/89158
This is from CSC's website called: Get up to Speed on the Tour. It answers a lot of questions.
http://www.csc.com/features/stories/12171-get_up_to_speed_on_the_tour_de_france
How do riders take bathroom breaks?
With longer stages lasting up to seven hours, it’s inevitable that nature calls.
Riders try to go to the bathroom before the start of the stage. When the need for a bathroom stop is urgent, riders will pull off the side of the road to take care of business. Sometimes in longer stages the bunch will organize a bathroom break to allow several riders to stop while the remainder of the bunch rides slowly until they catch up.
Etiquette calls for riders not to attack when another rider is answering nature’s call. Sometimes, riders will even ease off the back of the bunch and take care of business without even stopping, a delicate, sometimes imprecise maneuver.
channlluv
07-14-2009, 07:45 AM
Oh, for heaven's sake, they can p** and ride at the same time? Elite riders indeed.
Thanks for the explanation. I can't help wondering, and maybe it's because I live close to LA, if the star riders aren't concerned with some paparazzi-type getting a picture of them taking care of business and selling it to a trash mag.
Okay, I really need to get a new picture in my head. Thanks! Ha!
Roxy
Possegal
07-14-2009, 08:07 AM
Sometimes the race camera will catch a guy going while still riding. It's funny, as the camera then whips away really fast once the cameraman realizes what was going on. Never a dull moment. :)
PscyclePath
07-14-2009, 08:10 AM
Oh, for heaven's sake, they can p** and ride at the same time? Elite riders indeed.
One of the advantages of plumbing... though it takes a good bit of practice, sometimes needs a helpful push from a teammate, and can still get a little messy.
As for #2, that's a whole 'nother story. There's a "cute" story about Robbie McEuen from the 2003 or maybe 2004 tour where he scrificed his riding gloves in a time of need, and Bob Roll has a story from one of his Tour rides in his storybook, Bobke II. And then there's some times when you gotta go, but you gotta keep going, too. That's neither cute nor fun...
TrekTheKaty
07-14-2009, 08:27 AM
How would you like to own that stretch of road? Or maybe that is some town's claim to fame--"Hey they stopped here to whiz!"
Do they scout out the potty stretch? Who decides when to stop--Lance or Alberto?
This is a popular Nascar question--the awkward answer, "When you gotta go, you gotta go."
channlluv
07-14-2009, 08:42 AM
One of the advantages of plumbing... though it takes a good bit of practice, sometimes needs a helpful push from a teammate, and can still get a little messy.
As for #2, that's a whole 'nother story. There's a "cute" story about Robbie McEuen from the 2003 or maybe 2004 tour where he scrificed his riding gloves in a time of need, and Bob Roll has a story from one of his Tour rides in his storybook, Bobke II. And then there's some times when you gotta go, but you gotta keep going, too. That's neither cute nor fun...
Are you saying, PsyclePath, and please tell me I'm reading too much into what you've said here, but do you mean that they try to do #2 while riding? No, that can't even be possible. Do they just hop off the bike and run behind a hay bale or something? Surely they can't disrobe enough to do #2 very quickly, off the bike or wherever, without a bunch of people seeing them. There are spectators everywhere. I'm just baffled by the mechanics of it, I guess.
Don't the bibs make #1 nigh on impossible to do while riding, too? Or do they have some kind of opening like Y-front briefs?
I'm feeling very much the riding wimp here, considering that I don't even like to use the cleaned-every-now-and-then restrooms at the rec center by the lake where I like to ride.
If there's ever been such a thing as pen*s envy, this is why. You boys can p** anywhere, anytime, and apparently while doing anything.
Roxy
Possegal
07-14-2009, 08:54 AM
Bobke's story is about his having some, shall we say, GI distress one day while riding the Tour. He had to hop off the bike, run down a hill and relieve himself. Then realizing that he was right near people having a picnic. :) If I remember the story correctly, it's been a bit.
witeowl
07-14-2009, 08:55 AM
If there's ever been such a thing as pen*s envy, this is why. You boys can p** anywhere, anytime, and apparently while doing anything.
I hear you. Frustrated by the fact that the world is the urinal for the male rider (or hiker or runner or...), I researched items to level the playing field (http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/09/peeing_in_your.php) a while ago. I may or may not have purchased the TravelMate. I may or may not have an opinion on the item that I may or may not have purchased. If I had an opinion on said item, and I'm not saying I do, it would be positive.
Are you saying, PsyclePath, and please tell me I'm reading too much into what you've said here, but do you mean that they try to do #2 while riding? No, that can't even be possible. Do they just hop off the bike and run behind a hay bale or something? Surely they can't disrobe enough to do #2 very quickly, off the bike or wherever, without a bunch of people seeing them. There are spectators everywhere. I'm just baffled by the mechanics of it, I guess.
The riders tend to not do this unless it is really an "emergency"..... Guys do *not* like to abandon the tour and will ride even if a bit sick....
Don't the bibs make #1 nigh on impossible to do while riding, too? Or do they have some kind of opening like Y-front briefs?
ummm how to say delicately... no, guys can be a bit flexible, over the top of the bibs or down a leg can work for them. Yes this is a bit of work, which is why sometimes, as Psychlepath mentioned, a little push from a teammate is helpful.
Pedal Wench
07-14-2009, 09:26 AM
Bobke's story is about his having some, shall we say, GI distress one day while riding the Tour. He had to hop off the bike, run down a hill and relieve himself. Then realizing that he was right near people having a picnic. :) If I remember the story correctly, it's been a bit.
He told this story at a seminar I just went to. The worst part was that he was quite sick in the morning, so he had someone else pin his race number on his jersey. Unfortunately, the guy pinned the number to his jersey AND through to his bibs. So, Bobke was trying to get the jersey up and over his head, but it was stuck to his bibs too. Quite hilarious to hear Bobke gesturing as he's telling the story.
channlluv
07-14-2009, 09:27 AM
OOohhhh, I finally get the push from the teammate thing. Because they need two hands to manipulate...I got it. Okay. Thanks.
And witeowl, you made me snort with that opinion you may or may not have. Thanks. I checked out that site and it sure does seem like a handy thing to keep in the car for long trips or whatever. DD had to get upclose and personal with some sage bushes on this cross-country drive we've been on the last week. That road between El Paso and Carlsbad is loooooooong and there were no working restrooms for about 160 miles. It was her first time outside, and she was mortified, but it was an emergency.
Good thing Mommy keeps a roll of paper towels, a jug of water, and towels for the bike in the back of the car. <g>
Roxy
alpinerabbit
07-14-2009, 09:38 AM
Yes, it's etiquette not to tape them doing their potty breaks.
If you're not too shocked yet -
There's an epic story about a famed german rider, now retired, breakfast consisting of a couple bowls of muesli, a call of nature at a critical moment in the race, and a cycling cap.
Plus helpful friends "pushing him along"... I guess you get the idea :p
Biciclista
07-14-2009, 11:37 AM
Yes, it's etiquette not to tape them doing their potty breaks.
If you're not too shocked yet -
There's an epic story about a famed german rider, now retired, breakfast consisting of a couple bowls of muesli, a call of nature at a critical moment in the race, and a cycling cap.
Plus helpful friends "pushing him along"... I guess you get the idea :p
wow, gross
TrekTheKaty
07-14-2009, 12:07 PM
:eek::eek::eek:
channlluv
07-14-2009, 12:11 PM
eeeeeuuuuuuuuuuu!
Kiwi Stoker
07-14-2009, 06:06 PM
I too have heard that team cars pass out cycling caps too as the visor can be used as a handle...
What's with the "ewwww"? Everybody poops. Just not in a hat:D
TrekTheKaty
07-14-2009, 06:39 PM
Then what do you do with the hat? (I said, "do do"--get it?)
channlluv
07-14-2009, 07:03 PM
What's with the "ewwww"? Everybody poops. Just not in a hat:D
Yeah, not in a hat, even with a handle, with people pushing you and other people watching and probably cameras around...I mean, really, how dedicated a teammate do you have to be? Do they make the rookies do the pushing? "Hey, new guy, Fabio has to #2...go give him a push."
:P
Roxy
kenyonchris
07-14-2009, 07:25 PM
Yeah, not in a hat, even with a handle, with people pushing you and other people watching and probably cameras around...I mean, really, how dedicated a teammate do you have to be? Do they make the rookies do the pushing? "Hey, new guy, Fabio has to #2...go give him a push."
:P
Roxy
OK, THAT was funny.
MartianDestiny
07-14-2009, 11:13 PM
Yeah, not in a hat, even with a handle, with people pushing you and other people watching and probably cameras around...I mean, really, how dedicated a teammate do you have to be? Do they make the rookies do the pushing? "Hey, new guy, Fabio has to #2...go give him a push."
:P
Roxy
LOL, and how are they organizing the #2 pushes with team radios banned? It could get messy!
denda
07-15-2009, 10:40 AM
Y'all are making me laugh.
Owlie
07-15-2009, 10:42 AM
Y'all are making me laugh.
Yeah, I nearly choked on a cherry...
cylegoddess
07-20-2009, 01:11 AM
I saw Cadel, in one of the Tours - well Liggett was commentating and the camera had come to Cadel, who was caught in the act and gesturing quite wildly for them to piss off!( Literally). Liggett said, 'oh whoops Cadel is needing a natural break'.:p Cadel looked pretty upset.
I told this to hubby while watching with him, and he said - gee, dont they pee on their shoes and bikes and stuff? Doesnt it spray up on the tarmac and hit the peloton? They must smell pretty bad at the end of the day
I hadnt thought it that far:eek::eek::eek:.
Trigress
07-21-2009, 03:11 AM
Don't the bibs make #1 nigh on impossible to do while riding, too? Or do they have some kind of opening like Y-front briefs?
Men's bibs are normally a little lower cut in the front, precisely for this purpose. My DH is an experience road cyclist, and one of those who pee from the saddle. He never buys a bib that isn't low cut in the front, I suppose he's realised what difference the cut makes. :rolleyes: And those bibs really are quite low - I have taken over an old bib of his, it's a men's size small (it's a pearl izumi), which is a little large for me, hence reaches quite a lot higher on me than it would on a man, and when my short ladies' jersey rides up I occasionally get a gap on my lower belly. I don't think it would require even a well hung rider to be able to pull it down for a pee. :)
papaver
07-21-2009, 04:02 AM
Yes, it's etiquette not to tape them doing their potty breaks.
If you're not too shocked yet -
There's an epic story about a famed german rider, now retired, breakfast consisting of a couple bowls of muesli, a call of nature at a critical moment in the race, and a cycling cap.
Plus helpful friends "pushing him along"... I guess you get the idea :p
that happened this year during the giro too.
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