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shootingstar
04-27-2009, 04:26 PM
Do you file/prepare your own personal income tax return?

Or it's done by someone else..a family member, accountant.

I wasn't familiar with a parent still doing it for their adult child who has been working for awhile. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090427.wltaxes27art1810/BNStory/lifeMain/home

Compared to other people, my life situation is generally not too complicated, hence continue to do it myself.

I recall someone new to Canada, was abit ticked off when they realized they could have done an equally good job themselves instead of paying a HR Block to do theirs. And this couple, both had engineering degrees..so mathematical literacy was not a huge obstacle.

SadieKate
04-27-2009, 04:32 PM
I don't know about tax code in Canada, but since Tim Geitner had problems with TurboTax, I'd think twice.

We have an accountant do our taxes. It's not like we're rich, but our finances are a bit complicated with buying/selling houses, Bubba retiring, moving to another state, etc.

I believe that at some point you get what you pay for. Free legal and tax advice is worth exactly that. Of course, the pros can still screw up (ask MP), but I suspect the IRS is easier to deal with if you can point to your pro as the idjit.

maillotpois
04-27-2009, 04:37 PM
Of course, the pros can still screw up (ask MP),.....

:rolleyes: Indeed. More of a miscommunication than an actual screw up, but we're severely hosed this year.

jobob
04-27-2009, 04:44 PM
I'm the tax preparer in my fambly unit.

But, on account of extenuating circumstances, this year I only got around to attempting said taxes a few days before they were due.

Come to find out, Jo + TurboTax + Pain Meds were a wretchedly sub-optimal combination. Extensions have been filed. :cool:

crazycanuck
04-27-2009, 05:12 PM
I give my taxes to someone at H & R block so i don't make mistakes :)

Just don't leave your taxes for 4yrs..:o I received a little fine but it's all ok

Cataboo
04-27-2009, 05:13 PM
I file & prepare my Mom's (for her business as well), my brother's (for his business as well), my sister's, her boyfriend's, my mom's little japanese old lady friend whose husband died 2 years ago and doesn't trust her kids to do it, my mom's neighbors across the street, and my taxes. Various years other peoples get added on (boyfriends, friends, whatever).

It's fairly straight forward, if I have questions about anything, I just read the appropriate IRS documentation, and I use turbo tax. I've been doing it for years and haven't had a problem.

Of course, none of the above people have ever been appointed to public office requiring the congress to go over their tax returns.

shootingstar
04-27-2009, 06:39 PM
I file & prepare my Mom's (for her business as well), my brother's (for his business as well), my sister's, her boyfriend's, my mom's little japanese old lady friend whose husband died 2 years ago and doesn't trust her kids to do it, my mom's neighbors across the street, and my taxes. Various years other peoples get added on (boyfriends, friends, whatever).

Alot of people owe you several nice dinners! :D

divingbiker
04-27-2009, 06:52 PM
I don't know about tax code in Canada, but since Tim Geitner had problems with TurboTax, I'd think twice.

My coworker whose husband works for IMF said there is no way Tim Geithner could not have known what he was supposed to do when filing his taxes. They are told very clearly, several times a year, what the procedures are for filing taxes. The problem was not with Turbo Tax. Sorry for the hijack...I don't work for Turbo Tax and in fact like Tax Cut better.:D

uforgot
04-27-2009, 07:00 PM
I do mine and my two "adult" children. Spending part of the year in a combat zone is about as complicated as it gets. Then again, I teach math...:D

Blueberry
04-27-2009, 07:06 PM
I have a CPA, she's totally worth it!

CA

AnnieBikes
04-27-2009, 07:26 PM
I have used Turbo Tax for years and love it. The year we called the accountant to say we were doing it ourselves, he replied "I was wondering when you were going to do it yourself!" We got a refund this year. :D

Irulan
04-27-2009, 07:50 PM
In Turbo Tax, the software made a $4000 error on our return that we had to have corrected and amended by an accounting professional. I don't trust at all. Maybe if we filed an EZ but not the way our returns look now...

indysteel
04-27-2009, 08:00 PM
I used to do them by hand and now use Turbo Tax. If my tax situation was anymore complicated, e.g. I was in business for myself or was retired, I'd use an accountant. As it currently stands, I have a pretty clear understanding of what goes where and how much I can expect to get back each year.

Cataboo
04-27-2009, 09:54 PM
Having had many friends that worked at the IMF & world bank... They're all pretty clear on the tax law - the foreign nationals don't pay taxes, and the US citizens do pay taxes - and the US citizens get paid more to compensate for the fact that they have to pay taxes, so that they're getting equal net pay as their colleagues. I don't see how this would be a surprise to Geitner while working there, because even I know all about how the US tax laws apply to IMF people... but maybe that's because everyone I know from there is an economist and likes to tell people in excruciating detail about monetary things.

Now, turbo tax may not have been set up completely for US citizens getting payments from international organizations, because it's a rare case... however, if I'm going through all my tax paperwork when I'm working with turbo tax, and there's a spare piece of paper that I haven't entered... I don't just neglect to enter it just because turbo tax didn't specifically ask me a question that made me think, okay let's put that in... I start using the help and the search features on the software to figure out where that is supposed to go... If that doesn't illuminate things for me, then I get on the IRS's website and read up on it. I also pay attention to the status bar telling me how much of a refund or how much I'm paying, and I think about what I'm entering to make sure everything makes sense...

There are sometimes when I start down a question path in turbo tax, then realize, oh, this doesn't apply, and then cancel it and later figure out that turbo tax didn't actually delete that form, and I've got to go through and do it manually or all the tax calculations are screwed up... But I've caught it doing that several times.

I think when using turbo tax, you've got to be fairly vigilant about what you're doign, but you should be doing that anyways because you're doing taxes.

VeloVT
04-27-2009, 11:04 PM
I would point out that the IRS website is, surprisingly, excellent, informative and user-friendly.

That said, I send my docs to my parents' accountant :o.

shootingstar
04-27-2009, 11:47 PM
Having had many friends that worked at the IMF & world bank... They're all pretty clear on the tax law - the foreign nationals don't pay taxes, and the US citizens do pay taxes - and the US citizens get paid more to compensate for the fact that they have to pay taxes, so that they're getting equal net pay as their colleagues. I don't see how this would be a surprise to Geitner while working there, because even I know all about how the US tax laws apply to IMF people... but maybe that's because everyone I know from there is an economist and likes to tell people in excruciating detail about monetary things.

Now, turbo tax may not have been set up completely for US citizens getting payments from international organizations, because it's a rare case... however, if I'm going through all my tax paperwork when I'm working with turbo tax, and there's a spare piece of paper that I haven't entered... I don't just neglect to enter it just because turbo tax didn't specifically ask me a question that made me think, okay let's put that in... I start using the help and the search features on the software to figure out where that is supposed to go... If that doesn't illuminate things for me, then I get on the IRS's website and read up on it. I also pay attention to the status bar telling me how much of a refund or how much I'm paying, and I think about what I'm entering to make sure everything makes sense...

There are sometimes when I start down a question path in turbo tax, then realize, oh, this doesn't apply, and then cancel it and later figure out that turbo tax didn't actually delete that form, and I've got to go through and do it manually or all the tax calculations are screwed up... But I've caught it doing that several times.

I think when using turbo tax, you've got to be fairly vigilant about what you're doign, but you should be doing that anyways because you're doing taxes.

Catriona you're not an accountant, but maybe you're a bit addicted to this tax filing stuff or you really do get treated well to dinners by others...take it as a compliment. :)

ilima
04-28-2009, 12:58 AM
I do them myself & mail in the return. I refuse to pay to submit electronically.

Mine are pretty darn simple, but I will not hesitate to go to a tax preparer when I think it's warranted.

Cataboo
04-28-2009, 08:27 AM
Catriona you're not an accountant, but maybe you're a bit addicted to this tax filing stuff or you really do get treated well to dinners by others...take it as a compliment. :)

Blech, if I'm going to be doing people's tax returns, I don't want to be responsible if they go to jail for tax evasion!

It's really not all that much work for the majority of people if I tell them what I need and they have all that organized ahead of time, then I just sit down for an hour or half an hour and plug in all their numbers. Turbo tax autoupdates on the previous years data, so it pretty much already knows what to ask for if nothing's changed. IF they do it with me one year, they usually learn what I want for next year. So it takes a little longer the first year, not a huge deal the years after that.

My Mom's always terribly generous with me anyways, so it's not a big deal to do her taxes even if hers are probably the hardest... Her friends'll usually give me some money if I've done their taxes, I try to refuse, they insist, we go back & forth and I usually end up taking it. My baby brother's my baby brother (I'm usually spoiling him), and my sister alternates between giving me money or thinking it's a family privilege.

SadieKate
04-28-2009, 08:42 AM
My coworker whose husband works for IMF said there is no way Tim Geithner could not have known what he was supposed to do when filing his taxes. They are told very clearly, several times a year, what the procedures are for filing taxes. The problem was not with Turbo Tax. Sorry for the hijack...I don't work for Turbo Tax and in fact like Tax Cut better.:DI don't know the details and really don't care, but I can tell you that one very bright attorney I know cussed like hEll doing taxes every year both with pen and paper and then Turbo Tax. This was back when our finances were pretty simple and the State of CA made the same consistent mistakes (as an employer) every year. I stopped dreading April when we finally used an accountant.

I still stand by "you get get what you pay for" so if you have finances involving more than 1 paycheck, same house for years, and no investments other than savings, an accountant does not hurt.

Maybe Tim Geithner should have known what he was doing, but that should have included having a professional review his taxes.

TxDoc
04-28-2009, 10:23 AM
I use H&R block and love them!

msincredible
04-29-2009, 07:29 AM
My parents had me start doing my own taxes when I was a kid (investment accounts in my name) and I've done them myself since then, with one exception. Most of those years were with pen/paper/calculator, then a few years ago I switched to TurboTax and more recently to TaxAct. Some of my tax returns have been quite complicated, including a combination of itemizing deductions, dealing with foreign tax paid, inheritance income, and Roth IRA conversions all in one year.

Even with the software I always review the actual forms for accuracy.

There was one year I decided to have a friend (casual friend) do them as she is a CPA and trying to get started in business. Ironically that was the only time in recent years my taxes were quite simple. She did them correctly but I decided afterward I just always prefer to have it under my control.

smilingcat
04-29-2009, 07:54 AM
I avoid the whole ordeal of tax filing. :D :D :D

I'm smart enough to know that I have zero clue about taxes so I use an accountant. I love my Jewish CPA. She's straight as an arrow no funny business. I sleep without worry. And if something should happen, they have their own team of tax attorneys on staff.