Sororities-past & now

[shootingstar]

Ever belonged to a sorority when you were in college or university? If you did, what was the experience like for you?

I never did..I went to 2 major different Canadian universities each in a different city. I think there was a sorority but ..seems like sororities were dying out where I was at that time: late 1970's and early 1980's.

Maybe I'm wrong but I get the powerful impression, sorority thing was more big and widespread at an earlier point in history in the U.S. It never got big here.

And I don't think I could have been sorority material anyway. I was such a hermit. :p

[tulip]

I went to a big southern (US) university and sororities were definitely in full force. That was mid- late-80s. Although the statistics said that only 20% of the student body were members of sororities and fraternities, it seemed like much, much more at the time.

I did not join one despite having a multi-generational legacy claim to Chi Omega. I was a bit of a rebel and thought that joining a sorority was conforming or something. I dunno, it might have been a good experience in some ways. I kindof got lost in such a big university, with no subset of people to belong to. I have no friends from my university days, for what it's worth (I had friends then, but we've all lost touch). I have friends still from high school and grad school, but not from undergrad. Strange.

I did finally join a co-ed artsy/literary fraternity, but that was an entirely different experience.

[DebW]

I was a member of a fraternity in college in the 70s. It was a coed frat, about 1/3 women and 2/3 men. We lived in a big old house about 2 miles from campus. We had a hired cook and revolving chores. Roommates were swapped every semester, but we all slept in one big room on the 3rd floor of the house with the windows open all year long (actually, there was a partition between the men's and women's sides). Periodically we opened the basement bike shop (we had 2-3 mechanics). This was MIT, so we mostly studied hard, acted nerdy together, and enjoyed our college years. It wasn't a random mix of people, but people who selected each other, so more like a family by choice. I don't think I could have lived in an all-women's house, and there weren't enough women at MIT for that anyway. In fact, the ratios were so skewed that if more than 2 women ever found themselves in a room without men, we freaked out and drug a man into the room.

[Possegal]

I was in a sorority. Northeastern college in the 80s. No house, sororities didn't have houses. I loved it. I didn't pledge until a couple years in, so I already had a great group of friends, then I had another group. Glad I did it and glad I did it when I did. My senior year I did live off campus with 7 other sisters. There were a lot of rental houses like that, with 6 or more sisters in each house. We then had sorority rooms in the basement of one set of dorms where we held meetings and such.

[Mr. Bloom]

At Alabama, I was in a Fraternity, Silver was in a Sorority. I was the "Theta Throb" one year for her sorority;). All the Greek organizations were big and had huge houses, socially entwined in southern culture, and represented about 25% of the student population. This was the early to mid 80's. The fraternities were roudy and the sororities were very traditional.

What struck me as odd was the number of families that made HUGE financial sacrifices for their daughters to be in sororities...sacrifices they couldn't afford - presumeably to facilitate better career opportunities or better marriage chances.

SilverDaughter will be staying at one of her cousins sorority houses this week on a visit to Tuscaloosa. We are neither encouraging or discouraging her...has to be her choice

[shootingstar]

Co-ed fraternity..who knew..:confused:

Tulip, I also had no close friendships in my undergrad. but did from grad school..thank goodness and such few friendships still exist and are valuable.

Doubtful that a sorority would have been the best answer for friendships for me. In a perverse way, I seem to thrive best slightly closer to the margins. :)

I guess I have no idea about this 'pledge' thing..sounds like a rite of sorts.

Not on sororities nor fraternities, but in the same vein of traditions: the 2nd university I went to, actually had a decent cheerleading squad and accompanying band of sorts. It was and still is very big on homecoming weekend in the fall. I found that bewildering. See below.

Totally opposite from lst university which had international reputation for its co-op work programs in engineering, maths and applied sciences which probably contributed to low student spectator cheering support for its sports teams. Most definitely the place didn't fit nor feel like the tradition bound older universities. Don't know about now, but probably hasn't changed alot with students hell-bent on scientific innovation and setting up high tech incubators locally.

Just thoughts....when someone made the joke elsewhere on forum unrelated, on feeling like the rush of joining a sorority. It struck me, that I wasn't totally sure what that felt like.

Maybe it's like being part of ...here. :)

[SheFly]

ShootingStar - I think I went to your 1st university, albeit late 80s, early 90s. I was a co-op student, but in the Arts - not typical for that particular university :D. When I was there, no fraternities or sororities. I think a sorority chapter started in my 3rd or 4th year, but I wasn't interested.

And while I was there, despite the math, engineering and science focus, there was still a lot of school pride and attendance at some events - mostly basketball for some reason.

SheFly

[sfa]

I went to a Catholic women's college, so depending on how you look at it there either were no sororities at all or the whole place was one big sorority!

At the time I was pretty anti-sorority/fraternity anyway. That whole scene seemed to be part of a much older and more socially constrained time. But thinking about it now, I don't know why I was so opposed to them. I can see that it would be a good way to find your niche in a large university.

Sarah

[Crankin]

I started college here in Boston, ironically at the same school I am attending now for my second master's. Greek life in Boston in 1971? You would have been laughed out of town. We were more interested in other pursuits... :D.

Then I went back to FL, where I attended commuter schools, so other than the the interest type clubs I belonged to, no sororities. However, they were big at Gainesville and Tallahassee, where many of my friends went.
Then I transferred to ASU. It seemed back to the fifties to me. Lots of "Iowa girls" (no offense to anyone from Iowa, but that's what the in state students called them) in sororities who thought Tempe was the big city. I was only interested in getting my degree and getting a job.

There seems to be a regional difference here. I briefly belonged to a Jewish sorority in HS, here in MA. I had to endure a pledge night where I had to get dressed up as a football player and do all sorts of weird things in the middle of Kenmore Square, in a crowd of BU students when I was 15. I quit shortly thereafter. I did join B'nai Brith Girls in Florida, when I moved. It is really a youth group, but in the south, it was more like a sorority. We had an annual formal (I posted the picture in the what you looked like thread), but we did a lot of charity work, too. I never would have joined this if I had not moved in the middle of high school, which was extremely traumatic for me. I made some friends, was even the president for part of my senior year.
I would have liked being in the coed fraternity Deb was in.

[Triskeliongirl]

It is interesting for me to watch my kids go through this. What I have concluded is that sororities/fraternities play a much larger role at large schools than small schools.

My college (Brandeis, a medium sized liberal northeast school) had no fraternities/sororities/football team, etc. The rebel in me liked that. I got a job in a research lab as freshmen, so for me my family/social group were my fellow labmates.

My son attends a large northeast school (MIT). His experience is similar to Deb's. The school is so large, fraternities provide smaller communities within this massive intensive place. They give them a sense of family, a house to live in with a cook that makes them family style meals that they eat as a group, etc. While his fraternity is not co-ed, there is no shortage of women friends that the brothers interact with socially. My son's brothers are his friends, and I imagine they will stay friends for a very long time. As Deb said MIT is a very intense place academically, and the brothers help each other with their work. My son said he learns best by teaching, so really enjoys tutoring his classmates. So, while of course the fraternity has a social aspect to it, to me it appears to have more of a community/family/study group atmosphere.

My daugher attends a small northeaset women's liberal arts college (Wellesley). I don't think they have sororities, although they do have some sort of groups that are similar. My daughter doesn't belong to one of these, but did get involved early on in a cooperative that runs a campus cafe, and the friends she made through that became her social group. The dorms are more house like than at a school like at MIT. Each dorm has a living room, dining room, kitchens, etc. and it feels more like a frat house than a dorm, perhaps another reason sorotities aren't necessary there.

[Crankin]

Trisk, I didn't know you went to Brandeis. I just ate lunch there Wednesday..

Nice climb to the Faculty Club dining room!

[uforgot]

I had to endure a pledge night where I had to get dressed up as a football player and do all sorts of weird things in the middle of Kenmore Square, in a crowd of BU students when I was 15.


I went to college in the 70's. As a freshman I was invited to a gathering for information on joining "social" sororities. When I heard about the ridiculous pledging things you had to do I said no thank you. Not that I care if others want to do it, standing on a chair reciting the greek alphabet on the whim of others, whose only credentials are simply being a year or two older, just isn't something I would do.

[Biciclista]

I went to college in the 70's. As a freshman I was invited to a gathering for information on joining "social" sororities. When I heard about the ridiculous pledging things you had to do I said no thank you. Not that I care if others want to do it, standing on a chair reciting the greek alphabet on the whim of others, whose only credentials are simply being a year or two older, just isn't something I would do.

me too, not to mention how prominent alcohol consumption was in all of their events. I never gave either of my sons a push in either direction and was pleased when neither of them showed any interest in frats either.

[Aint Doody]

I was a "sorority girl" from '67 to '71. I think if you read Mr. Silver's post, you can conclude that it was/is more important in the South. I loved it. Still communicate with some of my sisters. In spite of the "swaps" and other parties, grades were emphasized. Pledges had to attend supervised study hall. I loved living in the house with 3 meals a day except on Sat. and Sun. But I agree that it's not for everybody.

[andtckrtoo]

I was never in a sorority, but my sister went to NC State and was. She's still friends with the girls. I sometimes wish I would have pledged, but I was such a goofy geek that I felt I did not belong.

My oldest daughter is going to San Francisco State where they do have sororities, but no houses, so hardly anyone joins. Sororities cannot have houses because of an old law on the SF books against several unmarried women living together. I guess SF had some past issues with bawdy houses. *snicker*. I think it's about time to repeal that law. :rolleyes:

[tulip]

Deb--St. A's?

[DebW]

Deb--St. A's?

No, it was a local, with no national affiliation. Used to be a Sigma Nu chapter, but after our house went coed and made national news, we got kicked out because the national was all male.

[Triskeliongirl]

me too, not to mention how prominent alcohol consumption was in all of their events. I never gave either of my sons a push in either direction and was pleased when neither of them showed any interest in frats either.

Mimi, they are not just about drinking, at least not at MIT. At MIT they even compete for which frat has the highest GPA. I am not stupid, I know they have parties with alcohol, so do lots of student groups, but I think mostly its about supporting each other personally, academically, etc.

[Tuckervill]

I was never in a sorority, but my sister went to NC State and was. She's still friends with the girls. I sometimes wish I would have pledged, but I was such a goofy geek that I felt I did not belong.

My oldest daughter is going to San Francisco State where they do have sororities, but no houses, so hardly anyone joins. Sororities cannot have houses because of an old law on the SF books against several unmarried women living together. I guess SF had some past issues with bawdy houses. *snicker*. I think it's about time to repeal that law. :rolleyes:

I heard the same thing recently about another state, which led me to check it out on snopes.com. It's an urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/college/halls/brothel.asp

Karen

[bikerHen]

I was in a Sorority. A group of us dorm girls wanted to start a Sorority. Long story short, we couldn't and were encouraged to pledge Delta Zeta which at the time was having membership problems. So about 20 of the most unlikely sorority girls ever, ventured into the greek system. This was the mid 70's and thankfully the whole greek system was a little laid back in Northern California.

There were 5 or 6 sororities and maybe 7 frats. The houses were small and it was not required to live in the house. We went to UCLA once for some sort of west coast sorority thing. The house we stayed at was just like something you would see in a 60's movie. Big house, formal everything, special dorm room for pledges and prissy girls. We were rough, rowdy and could drink anyone under the table. :D We all felt like the poor country cousins. I have some of my best memories from that weekend! Including a car load of us girls knocking on the door of an RV to use the bathroom while stuck in traffic going over the Grapevine. :p

It was fun, glad I did it, had some great moments but it's not for everyone. bikerHen

[Biciclista]

I heard the same thing recently about another state, which led me to check it out on snopes.com. It's an urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/college/halls/brothel.asp

Karen

lol, that's a good one. I'm glad you followed up. There's plenty of sorority houses, sheesh.

[Biciclista]

Mimi, they are not just about drinking, at least not at MIT. At MIT they even compete for which frat has the highest GPA. I am not stupid, I know they have parties with alcohol, so do lots of student groups, but I think mostly its about supporting each other personally, academically, etc.

Depends on the school, Trisk. The school I went to (Fairleigh Dickinson U) hahaha, they had keggers.

Washington State University, any alumni want to speak up?

[GLC1968]

When I went for my first bachelors (as a traditional aged student) I attend a school where fraternities and sororites were not allowed. They went against the original charter of the school which was something like "all opportunies for all students". We had NO groups on campus that excluded anyone. In fact, we were the first college in the country to be coed from it's inception (Oberlin, I think - beat us out for first coed college - but they started out all male and we never did). Anyway, it was a small school, so there really wasn't a need for them.

When I got my second bachelors at a big FL school, greek life was pretty huge, but I didn't bother as I was significantly older than 'traditional' coeds.

My brother went to a large southern school and he was in a fraternity. Without it, he would have been lost in the massive student body, I think.


Trisk - I didn't know you went to Brandeis either! I have one credit from there as I took a summer calculus course there when I was an undergrad. One of my closest friends from HS went there and loved it.

[Mr. Bloom]

Mimi, they are not just about drinking.

Even at 'party' schools schools it wasn't all about drinking and parties. In fact, the degree of partying can be directly correlated to the school's academic rigors. I'll assure you that in my day, we did not have 'frats'. We were a 'fraternity' and never used the frat word.

Some of my best preparation for life - organizing groups, negotiation, reading people - came from both the good and bad aspects of the Greek experience

Sorry for the highjack.

[Mistie]

I went to Longwood College (now University). We were really small. I was in a sorority. At first, I felt that the hazing was a little extreme (I went in before the hazing laws), but I managed. After I became a sister, I loved it. We recently got together and it was really fun.

[tulip]

Mr. Silver, c'mon! I was in college in "your day" and the term "frat" was used extensively, by those in fraternities and independents. Granted, we went to different schools, but big public basketball schools still. Nothing wrong with "frat" as a term, it's just shorter is all!

I didn't join a sorority, but I had friends who were in them and they liked them alot. My freshman roomate was totally into it, and she needed that structure. Yes, she partied, but she also studied hard because if she didn't make the grades, she would be on probation with the sorority. It was good for her. I was just rebelling against the dominant culture at the time. Ah, Youth!

[indigoiis]

I was never in a sorority, but my sister went to NC State and was. She's still friends with the girls. I sometimes wish I would have pledged, but I was such a goofy geek that I felt I did not belong.



I also went to NC State and was a little sister in a fraternity. Although most of the guys were fairly studious / serious, being a little sister meant nothing more than helping coordinate parties and events.

[Pax]

I was a Tr-Delt legacy but even my mom knew there was zero chance of me joining...in the 70's and early 80's you got kicked out if they found out you were gay.

[Aggie_Ama]

Sororities are gaining popularity at Texas A&M but still not the norm. I could hardly afford college so I definitely could not afford the average $2,500/year for sorority life. I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it myself.

I did not have any friends that were sorority gals or fraternity boys but I didn't oppose the groups, just never really befriended them. My husband and his friends jokingly call us a co-ed fraternity, we even have code intials. :) Mainly we all suffered through working together sometime at Lowe's and that was our "brotherhood". Everyone in the "frat" has lived with one or more person at sometime.

[Triskeliongirl]

Intersting you say sorority life is expensive. My son finds living in a fratnernity house cheaper than living in a dorm, since the fraternity owns their house, and food prepared by their cook is cheaper than a meal plan. As Mr. Silver stated, I see a lot of positive things coming from his experience. He is being mentored by alumni of his fraternity in the business world. For example, he got a job as a microsoft student partner through this mechanism. Same thing with access to internships, career counseling, etc. I know, I had no clue either about any of this since it wasn't part of my experience.

Its true that you can argue that membership is 'exclusive' but my observation of that process is that its simply about kids finding a good fit with a group of friends, so its not exclusive in a discriminatory way. In fact, my son's frat is the most racially diverse of all frats on campus, and I believe has the second highest GPA for whatever that is worth. I was so impressed when I met his brothers. It was also interesting for me to watch how they did an intervention on a brother who was partying too much and having academic problems. They definitely got him onto the straight and narrow. In fact, my son's first dorm assignment was in a dorm with a huge drug problem (yeh, the air in his suite was thick with pot smoke, even on parent's weekend), and the frat house was a safe haven in which he could work and get away from all that until we were able to get his dor transfer processed. Even though freshmen weren't allowed to live in frat houses, they gave him a bed and desk (free of charge) until he get his housing assignment sorted out with the housing office.

Yes, my son has organized some huge parties, but I view this as a terrific learning experience. He emphasizes how critical it is to be sober in order to put on one of these parties, the fun is not getting drunk, its managing to organize a large event and have it go off without a snag. Leadership training is huge. At MIT kegs aren't allowed, and party plans must be submitted to a council for approval. Its all very strictly regulated.

[Mr. Bloom]

Mr. Silver, c'mon! I was in college in "your day" and the term "frat" was used extensively, by those in fraternities and independents. Granted, we went to different schools, but big public basketball schools still. Nothing wrong with "frat" as a term, it's just shorter is all
Not challenging your observation, just stating fact. The phrase was only used by the anti-Greek movement...usually as "frat rat". ;). Greeks at Alabama cringed at the sound

Like trisk's son's experience, at that time, the organizations were struggling to be more than a drinking club and to provide support to round out the experience.

As silver pointed out to me recently, sorority living was actually cheaper than dorm or apartment living...the extra expense came in the unofficial 'social requirements'

[Tuckervill]

Mr. Silver, c'mon! I was in college in "your day" and the term "frat" was used extensively, by those in fraternities and independents. Granted, we went to different schools, but big public basketball schools still. Nothing wrong with "frat" as a term, it's just shorter is all!

I didn't join a sorority, but I had friends who were in them and they liked them alot. My freshman roomate was totally into it, and she needed that structure. Yes, she partied, but she also studied hard because if she didn't make the grades, she would be on probation with the sorority. It was good for her. I was just rebelling against the dominant culture at the time. Ah, Youth!

Yes, my best friend's daughter is in her freshman year at U of Arkansas, which is near me and I know a lot of people who work and attend there. She uses the word "caf" to describe the cafeteria. We thought she was talking about something exotic. I think each generation makes up their own words or revives old ones or eschews tradition in their own way. I don't think it is meant to insult.

Karen

[Aggie_Ama]

$2,500 at A&M was the estimated cost in the brochure I was mailed for dues, parties, costumes, etc.... I am sure it varies by university. You pay extra on top of that to live in the house and not every sorority sister gets a spot in the house which I do not know how it compared to the dorm because I couldn't even get past the estimated dues part and sorority life did not really appeal to me personally. If I had asked my Nanny and Pawpaw likely would have given me the money because they would have found it to be worthwhile to have a sorority girl for a granddaughter but I didn't really think it was something I was interested in myself.

I lived two years in a dorm and had a meal plan which was pricey but I loved being on campus as it is one of the most beautiful in my biased opinion, the sorority houses are far removed from the campus and they miss so much being practically outside town.

At A&M many of the frats do not have houses big enough to live in and when I was there from 1999-2003 they were definitely frowned upon. Since Bonfire fell and campus traditions have faded I hear frats are getting bigger but when I was there the thought was "you don't buy friends here". I am not saying it is the right because at other campus I know many who have benefitted from greek life it was just never a part of Texas A&M until very recently. The only real frat was the Corp of Cadets which is a whole 'nother can of worms.

[Aint Doody]

Although this was 40 years ago, it was cheaper to live in the house than in a dorm. Also we paid by the month for our food, and that made it cheaper in the long run. It makes me sad when people think that fraternity/sorrority life is all about alcohol and snobbery. It's like Trisk said--it's about finding a good fit. That's not to say there weren't many hurt feelings among those who did not get a bid for one reason or another. At Ole Miss it was a numbers game. There was to be a spot for everybody, but it never worked out that way. But my sorority was a big part of my college life.

[emily_in_nc]

I went to UNC in the early '80s, and Greek life was very big -- 15-20% of the student body, and much higher in the part of campus I lived in. I was a Pi Beta Phi legacy, but my father refused to pay for me to pledge. Even though he had been a Kappa Alpha in college at NCSU himself, by the time I was in school, he felt that the Greek system was too elitist, so he was adamantly against it. His other big objection was that it was quite expensive to pledge and join a sorority, even without living in house (I was a dorm rat for all four years), and I had two siblings following close behind me to go to college on his nickel.

I was very pissed at him about this and wished I could have afforded to pay my own way as I really wanted to try Greek life. I got over it over time, but reading this thread has brought back some kind of uncomfortable memories and feelings for me. I remember feeling like I didn't fit in and didn't have any friends, since nearly all the girls around me in my dorm were rushing and ended up pledging. I felt very left out and excluded.

I'm not sure how I feel about it all now. I don't have children so have not had to think about this in a long time, since I'm in my 40s now. I do think that if I had pledged a sorority, I might still have some friends from college. As it is now, I didn't keep up with any of my college friends. I dated one guy all the way through my years at UNC, and once we broke up, I pretty much left my college friendships behind.

Yeah, I'm kinda disappointed about what could have been. I think I missed out on some potentially rewarding female friendships.

[tulip]

Emily, I was at the same place a couple years later (started in 85), but I lived on South Campus (Morrison) during my freshman year. After that I lived off-campus. It did seem like EVERYONE was in a sorority, didn't it? And I bet in North Campus it was even more pronounced, what with rush going on right there and all. I figured everyone who lived in Kenan was in a sorority anyways!

I think they banned all those silly rush activities a while back, so it's not so crazy with gaggles of pandering girls going from house to house. It did seem rather pandering, the rush part. But it would have been nice to make some lasting friendships, and I didn't do that either. But we got through it and here we are! Older and wiser, although perhaps not as well-connected.

[emily_in_nc]

Emily, I was at the same place a couple years later (started in 85), but I lived on South Campus (Morrison) during my freshman year. After that I lived off-campus. It did seem like EVERYONE was in a sorority, didn't it? And I bet in North Campus it was even more pronounced, what with rush going on right there and all. I figured everyone who lived in Kenan was in a sorority anyways!

I think they banned all those silly rush activities a while back, so it's not so crazy with gaggles of pandering girls going from house to house. It did seem rather pandering, the rush part. But it would have been nice to make some lasting friendships, and I didn't do that either. But we got through it and here we are! Older and wiser, although perhaps not as well-connected.

How interesting, tulip, to hear from another Tarheel! :) I was indeed on North Campus (Alderman dorm), and I think about 60% of our dorm pledged, or at least it felt like it. I had no idea rush was no longer done. It was SUCH a big deal when I was there. OTOH, I think my grades were better because I had more time for studies -- I made Phi Beta Kappa my junior year, so I guess I have a bit of Greek in me after all. :rolleyes:

And you're right, I think going through frustrations can only make us stronger. No one gets all she wants, after all.

Thanks for the reply -- oh, and GO HEELS! :D

[Possegal]

. At Ole Miss ...

Hey, I went to Ole Miss. Have we discussed that before? Though I went for my PhD, so no sorority for me (there anyway). I had a lot of students that were in them though and I was quite envious of the gorgeous houses they lived in!

[tulip]

Sorority dues were quite expensive (for my family) and had to be paid whether you lived in the house or not. Most sisters did not live in the house, and had to pay dorm fees and meal plans (or live in an apartment) in addition to the sorority fees. That's another reason why I did not choose to go through rush and join a sorority, although it was not the only reason. I have two brothers younger than me and I would not have felt right about asking my family to swing the sorority dues on top of everything else.

[shootingstar]

I must say that I've learned abit here....of things past.

Would a sorority have benefitted me? Only perhaps for 1 year. I know my life experiences just prior to univeristy would have been most likely quite different from those from a family with more money. I even tried hanging out with international students....but many of them came from wealthy families. I had tough time relating to many of them. So I left the group..sometimes just staying around too long heightens feelings of alientation /differences.

so I struck out outside of campus, to an organization working on Third World issues and foreign aid matters. This is how radical I went. :)


for those of us, who had build networks and connections elsewhere, for myself it was through grad school and through professional associations thereafter.

[indigoiis]

How interesting, tulip, to hear from another Tarheel! :) I was indeed on North Campus (Alderman dorm), and I think about 60% of our dorm pledged, or at least it felt like it. I had no idea rush was no longer done. It was SUCH a big deal when I was there. OTOH, I think my grades were better because I had more time for studies -- I made Phi Beta Kappa my junior year, so I guess I have a bit of Greek in me after all. :rolleyes:

And you're right, I think going through frustrations can only make us stronger. No one gets all she wants, after all.

Thanks for the reply -- oh, and GO HEELS! :D

I was just up the road from you gals 1986-88 at NC State.
But just so ya know, I'm a tarheels fan. ;)

[sundial]

I'm a *sensitive*, introverted artist so I'm not good sorority material. ;)

[emily_in_nc]

I was just up the road from you gals 1986-88 at NC State.
But just so ya know, I'm a tarheels fan. ;)

Good choice! :D

My grandfather, father, brother, and step-sister all were NCSU grads, actually, and I got a post-bacc certificate there in computer programming. Born and raised in Raleigh, actually. But had to go to Carolina if just for spite -- and to get a few miles down the road from my fam. :D

[tulip]

Ha, Indigoiis and Emily, I went to NC State for one of my grad degrees. Had I not been so snarky as a high school student, perhaps I would have gone there in the first place and not had to go back for a masters! That would have been the smart thing to do. I just loved that the nicest building on campus was the Poultry Science building. I really liked it there.

And I was raised in Durham...so I had to go to Carolina!

[Aggie_Ama]

Good choice! :D

My grandfather, father, brother, and step-sister all were NCSU grads, actually, and I got a post-bacc certificate there in computer programming. Born and raised in Raleigh, actually. But had to go to Carolina if just for spite -- and to get a few miles down the road from my fam. :D

Born and raised in Austin. Why do you think Texas A&M beckoned so loudly even though it broke my dad and Pawpaw's heart to hear I was going to be an Aggie? ;) Best thing I ever did for myself, if I went to Texas my parents couldn't have afforded their dorms and no way was Dad letting his princess live in Austin proper, it is a scary world ya know. My choice would have been to 1. commute from the burbs or 2. live with my grandparents closer to campus.