Bicycle revenge ideas

[IvonaDestroi]

Ok, this is the 3rd freakin time this has happened to me!

Have you ever had some ******* lock their god damn u lock through your cables??? How freakin irritatating!!!!

So I lock up my bike at the Ashby bart station every day that I go to school... I lock it inside the ticket gates because even though it's incredibally overcrowded parking there, it's the only safe place to put your bike.The outside parking is always full of stripped bicycles in various forms of dissarray. If you park out there every day your bike WILL get stolen/stripped at some point or another. So I always park inside.

Well, obviously when it's crowded there are plenty of idiots who don't know how to lock their bikes. Assholes will take up 2 spots, bend your rims trying to push your bike over despite the u lock around the tire... and... Lock their god damn bikes to yours!!!

This happened to me a second time a couple days ago... You have to understand I have been EXHUASTED all week... I'm graduating in 3 weeks and I've pretty much had about 8-12 hours a day of work to do/7 days a week for the last 2 and a half months. I've taken maybe one day off that whole time...

that day I had gotten up at 6am for school and stayed up till midnight doing a photo shoot the night before for my portfolio, after sewing all day. Yes, I was freakin TIRED when I got back to Ashby!!!

I always enjoy my all downhill ride home and I was looking forward to my ride and a nap when, low and behold, My bike had been captured! my shifter cable was locked inside some assholes grey kryptonite u lock. I left him a very nasty note. I was PISSED. the note went something along the lines of:

DEAR JACK ***

YOU LOCKED YOUR LOCK AROUND MY SHIFTER CABLE. CAN'T REMOVE BIKE WITHOUT REMOVING ENTIRE HOUSING AND RE-TUNING. THANKS MORON.

I think he/she deserved it. I didn't have tools with me, and the idea of taking off the cable (this one's a 70s schwinn suburban 10 speed with suicide shifters) was too much to deal with at the moment. I'd have to unscrew the cable from the back bracket and take the whole cable out of four seperate housing pieces all the way up to the shifter. I knew I wouldn't have time to go buy a new cable anyway, and keeping the thing cleanly threaded through all those housing pieces after having to rip off the ferrules was not gonna happen... Not to mention the tuning.

So I had to leave it. I walked home in the rain. I was Soooo...tired....

The next day it poured all day and didn't stop until 10pm, so I walked back down there with some friends to see if this moron had freed my bike. He had, but there was now a red trek in it's place with ITS u lock around the same damn cable!!!!! apparently the cable was now portruding over the rack because of all the commotion...

We just took off the damn cable and now I have to freakin go through all that any damn way... even though I'm on an insane schedule. So yes. The ******* deserved the nasty note. Also, he let all of the air out of my front tire in revenge for the note, so I had to ride back on my rims in the rain...

Also I noticed that he had unscrewed the wingnut on the shifter and put it back together after realizing it wasn't open ended. (I know that because I had done the same thing but I left my end piece on backwards and it was replaced the right way). In any case, thanks for the safe ride home jack ***!!!

I see that bike at the bart station all the time. I want revenge!!!! Fair revenge. His 5 seconds saved to catch his train cost me a day without a bike,2 walks in the rain, a wet ride on a flat, a new cable, and all the work of re-installing it and tuning. I want him to get the same. He rushed, didn't pay attention, and probably just barely caught his train at my expense. And he let the air out of my tire and messed with my shifter.

I'm not gonna cut his brake cables or anything drastic, but he totally deserves something!

Ideas?

[pinkychique]

First of all, take three deep breaths. in...out...in...out....in....out...


ok

people tend to suck in general at racks, which is why i ride my fixed gear when i ride to school. maybe you could shorten your cable housing?

[Aint Doody]

Ummmm, Ivona, I'm sorta put off by your foul language and anger.

[shootingstar]

At least this happened in a city with people around you, not out in a rural, isolated area. Yes, you were tired, but most TE members have every story of exhaustion..some much greater than yours.

Since your note called him names, it probably set him/her off to start off this chain of revenge.

It did happen to my partner in a very packed market area...but he was luckier ...since person left and unlocked the bikes 2-3 hrs. after he discovered the locking error.

Revenge doesn't get one far in life. ..it just produces more anger for the coffee pot to percolate. But it might fuel you to bike further and longer. :D

Sleep well tonight.
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I understand about your walking for long distances in foul weather....I've been car-free for past quarter century. I returned to cycling about 17 yrs. ago. But I still do the public transit/walking also.

And will for the rest of my life. :)

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

What's next....scratching each other's paint, breaking spokes, and slashing tires? Revenge goes nowhere but downhill.
If two different bikes in a row locked through your cable, I'm thinking maybe your cable needs some shortening up? Something's not right here. Can you position your bike differently, or maybe zip-tie your cable to pull it closer in to the bike?

You rode home on a total flat on your rim?? Didn't it wreck your rim and cut right through your tire and tube as well?

[IvonaDestroi]

Ummmm, Ivona, I'm sorta put off by your foul language and anger.

Sorry, the words I'm using arn't that bad... I'm not sure why its censoring... i only used a**hole and jacka** (those were self censored) which to me arn't that bad, I could do a lot worse! it didn't censor the plural for some reason...

In any case I think I had the right to be angry! Esspecially after he let air out of my tire after his own mistake. Wouldn't you be?

[IvonaDestroi]

At least this happened in a city with people around you, not out in a rural, isolated area. Yes, you were tired, but most TE members have every story of exhaustion..some much greater than yours.

Since your note called him names, it probably set him/her off to start off this chain of revenge.

It did happen to my partner in a very packed market area...but he was luckier ...since person left and unlocked the bikes 2-3 hrs. after he discovered the locking error.

Revenge doesn't get one far in life. ..it just produces more anger for the coffee pot to percolate. But it might fuel you to bike further and longer. :D



I agree, but you know, I still blame him for starting it. (yes I am proudly reverting to elementary school politics)

Besides... letting air out of my tire was going too far and it did actually put my safety at risk. I don't plan on doing that too him... just costing him some time and effort like he cost me.

[Trek420]

Ivona,

Inhale ... exhale .... feel the bike love :D

Could you to exit at the next station? It's closer to campus (like in it). Perhaps Ashby is nearer to where you need to go.

Doesn't downtown Berekely BART station still have their faaaaaabulous bike valet parking service? Even if Ashby is closer at the next station over your bike remains safe, parked indoors, on an individual rack, watched by an attendant. :D

They even have tools for small repairs like topping off a tire etc.

[Aint Doody]

Here's what I'm referring to:


lock their god damn u lock
Lock their god damn bikes to yours!!! And all those a--hole's, too.

I personally find vitriolic spewing offensive and counterproductive. Even your name suggests much anger. I guess I can just put you on my ignore list. I do hope your intent in your posts is not to destroy. It's not a good goal.

And maybe your tire was going to go down anyway. It happens.

[IvonaDestroi]

What's next....scratching each other's paint, breaking spokes, and slashing tires? Revenge goes nowhere but downhill.
If two different bikes in a row locked through your cable, I'm thinking maybe your cable needs some shortening up? Something's not right here. Can you position your bike differently, or maybe zip-tie your cable to pull it closer in to the bike?

You rode home on a total flat on your rim?? Didn't it wreck your rim and cut right through your tire and tube as well?



Well the second one happened because the cable was all streched out after me fidgeting with it trying to figure out a way to get it out more easily.

Parkingwise, There is no way to get that u lock through the wheel and frame without having it right next to the bar, but the problem with it getting caught isn't that typical. The first guy didn't pay attention, then it got strectched out and it was all pulled out for the second guy.

The tire wasn't completely flat, but probably flat enough to cut through if it hit something hard enough. I decided to take the risk and go slow, It's only a few blocks, and I got home just fine. I also had friends right there with me.

Revenge wise, all is fair in love and war! Besides, maybe it's a cute guy... that's a great story for meeting someone...:o

[SadieKate]

If this is happening repeatedly, call the police. Take a picture each time.

He's essentially taking your property hostage. If another car is illegally parked and blocking yours, it will be towed.

And during your call to them be polite and patient. :)

[Biciclista]

now you're talking Ivona.
yes, you had every right to be angry. I would have been too!

If you really think he let air out of your tire (are you SURE he did it?) you could let air out of his tire too, but then the next thing you know, your bike will be missing spokes, or.... like bleeker said, it could get much worse.

Lucky you had this place to vent, it's better than revenge.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

I would think anyone letting the air out of someone's bike tire in anger would let it all out- not just deflate it part way. I think it's a mistake to be so sure some one did it as opposed to maybe the valve starting to separate or other possibilities. At this point in my life I've been wrong too many times when I was absolutely sure someone did something...only to find out later that they actually hadn't.

[IvonaDestroi]

If this is happening repeatedly, call the police. Take a picture each time.

He's essentially taking your property hostage. If another car is illegally parked and blocking yours, it will be towed.

And during your call to them be polite and patient. :)

Yea they usually offer to call bart police and have them remove the lock for you. (I don't think I would trust them after the whole Oscar Grant thing though, I might get "tazered" with a bullet!) :-P Those guys really are pretty violent and rude, esspecially to people like me who have blue hair... This one was a kryptonite lock though... hard to get off and I didn't wanna cost the guy his lock.


The other thing they might do is take off the cable on my bike and get the guys info when he comes to get his bike and charge him the cost of replacing it, but I don't mind doing it myself so much, just really bad timing with the rain and my schedule and all. If I knew nothing about bikes that's probably what would have happened, that and a trip to the shop. I mean a nasty note is kind of getting off easy if you think about it!

[IvonaDestroi]

now you're talking Ivona.
yes, you had every right to be angry. I would have been too!

If you really think he let air out of your tire (are you SURE he did it?) you could let air out of his tire too, but then the next thing you know, your bike will be missing spokes, or.... like bleeker said, it could get much worse.

Lucky you had this place to vent, it's better than revenge.

That's true... I am pretty sure he did it because A) It was fine for months before then, and when I rode it to the station, and B) I checked the tube in the bathtub and it had no leaks, refilled it and rode around a bit today and it held up just fine, so it didn't have any holes

yea, revenge-wise if it got to that point that would probably be no good... then it's just gonna keep going back and forth eternally!

(although even the ticket guy in the booth said he'd keep an eye on it for me and he laughed when I said I should do the same thing). It is kind of funny if you think about it... He'd probably just watch us both and laugh at the drama!

[IvonaDestroi]

I would think anyone letting the air out of someone's bike tire in anger would let it all out- not just deflate it part way. I think it's a mistake to be so sure some one did it as opposed to maybe the valve starting to separate or other possibilities. At this point in my life I've been wrong too many times when I was absolutely sure someone did something...only to find out later that they actually hadn't.

It was mostly all out... I cant figure out a way to explain the level of squishiness... um it felt about as squishy as the tip of a converse shoe when you curl your toes up inside. Almost completely flat, but not entirely empty. 3/4s flat?

I must admit that being wrong is a possibility. but I did take the tube out and check it in the bathtub (no leaks) and today it held up perfectly. How could it have gone flat in 6 hours that day but held up fine all day today?

[IvonaDestroi]

First of all, take three deep breaths. in...out...in...out....in....out...


ok

people tend to suck in general at racks, which is why i ride my fixed gear when i ride to school. maybe you could shorten your cable housing?

Hehe I liked your original post better :p

[IvonaDestroi]

Ivona,

Inhale ... exhale .... feel the bike love :D

Could you to exit at the next station? It's closer to campus (like in it). Perhaps Ashby is nearer to where you need to go.

Doesn't downtown Berekely BART station still have their faaaaaabulous bike valet parking service? Even if Ashby is closer at the next station over your bike remains safe, parked indoors, on an individual rack, watched by an attendant. :D

They even have tools for small repairs like topping off a tire etc.

Yea they do, it's great. But I live by Ashby and my school is the Art Institute at Civic center SF near the fountain, so I'm headed the other way. Wish they did that there! Plus my traveling times are usually near the peak hours when they don't let you take bikes on the train. I think one of the mission stops has something like that too, and they have that cool little side ramp thing on the staircase to roll your bike down, and the little gears on the walls

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

I must admit that being wrong is a possibility. but I did take the tube out and check it in the bathtub (no leaks) and today it held up perfectly. How could it have gone flat in 6 hours that day but held up fine all day today?

It happened to me once.

[IvonaDestroi]

Here's what I'm referring to:

God d***

And all those a--hole's, too.

I personally find vitriolic spewing offensive and counterproductive. Even your name suggests much anger. I guess I can just put you on my ignore list. I do hope your intent in your posts is not to destroy. It's not a good goal.

And maybe your tire was going to go down anyway. It happens.

Well arn't we feeling PC today! I'm not offended if you block me. I personally don't believe in censorship, esspecially the religious kind, but to each their own.

I'm surprised you're in the music field though, I must say. Of all bussinesses, I think that's the one with the most "vitriolic spewing"... My username is the name of both my fashion design label and my street name. Sorry if you're frightened and offended sweetheart!

[IvonaDestroi]

It happened to me once.

hmmm.... strange and unusual... ghosts!

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

hmmm.... strange and unusual... ghosts!

No, an intermittently failing valve.

[Trek420]

I'm surprised you're in the music field though, I must say. Of all bussinesses, I think that's the one with the most "vitriolic spewing"...

Lots of musicians, lots of kinds of music. :) Stick around and get to know us. You'll find the kind of music BSG & Mr. BSG play is hardly vitriolic.

Hmmm, maybe a new genre of bitter, anguished, caustic blue grass could take off :p or get them kicked out of Ralph's. :rolleyes:

"I'm just a pooooor blue grass picker.
Your doggone coffee is cold and bitter
We asked for tomatoes instead of lettuce
Now in your dang greasy dive you won't let us ..."

[shootingstar]

would like to see what you were sewing (and probably ironing/steaming in stages) for so many hrs. yesterday. :rolleyes: I'm not being sarcastic here..a well-fitted garmet requires these stages.

We need to see what the future bike chicwear designer is up to.

[madscot13]

if you want to do something off the wall terrible, write them another note asking them to kindly mind where how they lock their bike and then sign thanks! you will attract more flies with honey than lemon, speaking from a very passive aggressive person

[OakLeaf]

Put a hacksaw in your pack.

If their bike gets stolen because they locked it to yours, that's not your fault.

[shootingstar]

Put a hacksaw in your pack.

Why is it as soon as I read this, I started laughing even though it's a helpful tip? :p


May things never morph to that point. :D And bring that hacksaw to the sewing segment of your classes, Iviona. It's a new impressive "tool".

[IvonaDestroi]

would like to see what you were sewing (and probably ironing/steaming in stages) for so many hrs. yesterday. :rolleyes: I'm not being sarcastic here..a well-fitted garmet requires these stages.

We need to see what the future bike chicwear designer is up to.

Here's a couple of em... never mind that they all look like whores!... They're not suppossed to be that short... The dresses were mostly made made for me but the models were all at least 9 inches taller then me....and actually wider then i am, even though they look skinnier, so the fit on them is a (ahem) little short and tight... im pretty short so they fit me A LOT lower on the legs :p

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

... never mind that they all look like whores!...

Um, ok. ....but... isn't that the whole point? :confused:

Seriously though- this is like TOTAL roller derby style!!! The ripped fishnets, Catholic schoolgirl plaids, garters, striped tights, knee socks, combat boots, laced bustiers, studded T's, bullets.... You should be designing/producing clothes for roller derby!- it's a perfect match. Here's a forum page of a skating forum I'm on that has a lot of links to Derby punk/wh*re type fashion- check out the businesses that are currently producing this kind of gear- they are wild and cutting edge:
http://www.skatelogforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=127870
I'm hoping you don't have to be on that forum in order to see the page. Check into the links for roller derby gear that they are listing in the various posts.

So, but why can't you just wear all this same stuff when you're riding your bike, if you're wearing it on a daily basis anyway? I'm a bit confused...what is it that you need to be biking-specific? I assume you're not talking 50 mile rides here. Is it just the rain issue that poses a problem for you when you're riding around back and forth between school, work, store, etc? What is the clothing problem you need to solve?

Quit breathing all the spray paint fumes, girl- you'll get lung cancer in your 40's and it won't help your biking any! ;)

[redrhodie]

Now I see your bike clothes dilemma!

As for revenge, I would take a pic of the guy's bike locked to your cable, and send it to the bike snob. Fun!

http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/

[Blueberry]

Lots of deep breathing needed on this thread;):rolleyes:

I interpreted the OP as just wanting to vent. How 'bout something funny and non-destructive to his bike....wrap it in newspaper and tape 'round the paper? Rubber bands? Nothing that would harm the bike or his safety....

Or Bikesnob is a great idea!

The clothes are cool - is that a set or someone's home?

CA

[spokewench]

I know it cost extra money and i don't know if it is an option anymore, but when I used to ride my bike to Bart to go to work, I rented one of the lockers. Yes, it cost money, but it was worth the knowledge that it would probably be safe when I got back and I did not worry so much

[Andrea]

Wow- all of these posts and not a large amount of actual advice?

Non-damaging, but severely annoying things you can do after you free your bike w/the aforementioned hacksaw:
Vaseline the handlebars
Buy a cheap length of chain and padlock and attach it to their bike. Whether or not you attach their bike to something with it is up to you...
Re-adjust their low limit screw so that they can't use their granny gears
Adjust the saddle height/tilt/fore/aft
Un-center their handlebars

...you get the idea. Be creative :D

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

I think it's really wrong to do revenge damage or pranks to anyone's bike. They likely did not even realize they were locking around her cable- two different people did it, not just one guy anyway. A polite note is the most effective and least immature course to take. Maybe a large note taped to the rack there asking people to be more careful. She needs to tuck her cable in and secure it closer to the bike, or lock her bike up slightly differently somehow.

[Veronica]

This is their mode of transportion. Would you do something to someone's car?

Doing something deliberately is vandalism. Yeah... I'm a goody two shoes.


Veronica

[IvonaDestroi]

Um, ok. ....but... isn't that the whole point? :confused:

Seriously though- this is like TOTAL roller derby style!!! The ripped fishnets, Catholic schoolgirl plaids, garters, striped tights, knee socks, combat boots, laced bustiers, studded T's, bullets.... You should be designing/producing clothes for roller derby!- it's a perfect match. Here's a forum page of a skating forum I'm on that has a lot of links to Derby punk/wh*re type fashion- check out the businesses that are currently producing this kind of gear- they are wild and cutting edge:
http://www.skatelogforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=127870
I'm hoping you don't have to be on that forum in order to see the page. Check into the links for roller derby gear that they are listing in the various posts.

So, but why can't you just wear all this same stuff when you're riding your bike, if you're wearing it on a daily basis anyway? I'm a bit confused...what is it that you need to be biking-specific? I assume you're not talking 50 mile rides here. Is it just the rain issue that poses a problem for you when you're riding around back and forth between school, work, store, etc? What is the clothing problem you need to solve?

Quit breathing all the spray paint fumes, girl- you'll get lung cancer in your 40's and it won't help your biking any! ;)

Well, really that line has nothing to do with bicycling, It's just stuff I made in school, and the whoreshness level does exist, you're just not supposed to see their butts! :p I have worn a couple of those dresses to shows and rode my bike wearing them, but I usually wear shorts/capris underneath... It's ok but a bit constricting at times...

In terms of designing for derby, I have a friend in the breakers, she's always trying to get me to join. But those girls don't really buy derby specific clothing so much as make they're own outfits. A lot of it is related to that day to day style of punk rock type of stuff, which is why a lot of them wear it (they already own it!) I wear lottsa that stuff too, which is why I made it in school. You tend to want to stay in your comfort zone when you're learning, so that's sort of what happened to me. I definately want to branch out a bit further, punk rock is really not what I want to sell and design. In fact exploiting my culture poses some serious ethical threats to my mental well being.

These were just a few portfolio shots to show what I can do and what I have done, and really I havn't made that many pieces (most of school has been patternmaking/technical drawing/illustration/computerizerd patterns/grading/manufacturing type of stuff).

I'm not a hot topic shopper. Not by far! And if I ever get to the point where my clothes are getting sold there, well, then, you can just shoot me in the head!

I actually drew up a really cute idea for commuting pants, dunno if I'd call 'em knickers, If I saw them in a store I would totally rock them... They are made for commuting! With all sorts of cute little pockets and details that are super convenient. No lining or anything like that, just a cool pair of pants with some neat and convenient features.

That's the type of company I was looking for, that I couldn't really find, and when I found them I was gonna see what kind of innovative rain gear they might have. Seeing as how I couldn't find them, I decided to make em for myself. Hopefully I can make these water resistant somehow too... maybe wool? After graduation, that is...

I'd post em but they're not made yet and I don't wanna give away my idea on the internet:p

If you want I can PM you with my design concept, I'd love some constructive critisism. I just dont wanna post it for the whole world to see!

[IvonaDestroi]

Wow- all of these posts and not a large amount of actual advice?

Non-damaging, but severely annoying things you can do after you free your bike w/the aforementioned hacksaw:
Vaseline the handlebars
Buy a cheap length of chain and padlock and attach it to their bike. Whether or not you attach their bike to something with it is up to you...
Re-adjust their low limit screw so that they can't use their granny gears
Adjust the saddle height/tilt/fore/aft
Un-center their handlebars

...you get the idea. Be creative :D

hehehe you guys are awesome! The newspaper idea too... :D

[IvonaDestroi]

Lots of deep breathing needed on this thread;):rolleyes:

I interpreted the OP as just wanting to vent. How 'bout something funny and non-destructive to his bike....wrap it in newspaper and tape 'round the paper? Rubber bands? Nothing that would harm the bike or his safety....

Or Bikesnob is a great idea!

The clothes are cool - is that a set or someone's home?

CA


:D

It's a community home/venue

[Biciclista]

ok, humor me. I'm 57 and had sons who like to wear very conservative clothing.

WHY do young women want to look like prostitutes?

[Tuckervill]

I'm not a hot topic shopper. Not by far! And if I ever get to the point where my clothes are getting sold there, well, then, you can just shoot me in the head!

Hon, punk went out when it started selling in Wal-Mart.

Karen

[Trek420]

The clothes are cool - is that a set or someone's home?

CA


Hope it's a set because if it's someone's home the subtitle should be "I guess we're not getting the cleaning deposit back" ;) :rolleyes:

[Cataboo]

ok, humor me. I'm 57 and had sons who like to wear very conservative clothing.

WHY do young women want to look like prostitutes?

Because they grow up looking at fashion magazines and seeing rockstars do it? Some of it has to be cultural, where we're teaching girls that it's okay or sexy for them to look like that. Why can Brittney Spears & a few other girls that really don't have much in the way of singing talent make a lot of money singing? Can they still make that much money without singing talent if they're not dancing around in skimpy outfits?

Then there's the whole shock factor if you're trying to rebel.

While the entire outfits that were portrayed in Ivona's pictures probably aren't something that I'd ever wear - parts of them are quite cute (the tartan shirt), I'd just pair them elsewise.

Have you seen the clothes they make for young girls lately? My sister will comes over with her 7 year old sometimes... and I'm just boggled that a 7 year old is dressing like that or has words written across the butt or in shirt skirts. And I can't blame the 7 year old, so apparently her mother and father think it's appropriate to walk around with something like that.

I guess I'm being off topic... Revenge wise? I'm not overly sure it's worth it given that he's already been childish enough to initiate damage to your bike, and you should be the better person... I'm guessing since he's male, so a very slight upward tilt to his saddle could be mildly uncomfortable for him and it'll take him a bit to figure out.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

I actually drew up a really cute idea for commuting pants, dunno if I'd call 'em knickers, If I saw them in a store I would totally rock them... They are made for commuting! With all sorts of cute little pockets and details that are super convenient. No lining or anything like that, just a cool pair of pants with some neat and convenient features.
That's the type of company I was looking for, that I couldn't really find, and when I found them I was gonna see what kind of innovative rain gear they might have. Seeing as how I couldn't find them, I decided to make em for myself. Hopefully I can make these water resistant somehow too... maybe wool? After graduation, that is...

Here are a few biking pants/knickers things being made...some of the companies cited on these websites make all kinds of cool casual 'working bike' wear:

http://www.bicyclefixation.com/blog/archives/00000050.html

http://velocouture.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/knickerbockers-a-personal-history/

http://commutebybike.com/2007/01/06/chrome-shins-knickers/

http://www.momentumplanet.com/apparel/joyriders-nan-eastep-stylish-every-way

http://joyriderclothing.blogspot.com/2008/04/new-knicker-and-raincoat-pics-by-pamela.html

[tulip]

Ivona, while I wouldn't be inclined to wear your line, I'm probably not your target demographic, either. But I love that you are exploring your creativity and inspirations freely. That is what you can do in design school. When you get out, you most likely will not find that freedom.

Enough with the snarky comments! Really.

[redrhodie]

I don't know if you know of Rapha. The clothes aren't "cute" or designed for women, but really beautiful. Out of my pricepoint, too!

http://www.rapha.cc/index.php?page=1

Not what you were thinking, I know, but I thought you'd find them interesting.

[Cataboo]

check out REI's house line of pants/capris. There's some of them with a lot of pockets. Any one that's a softshell or nylon with dwr will shed water. Not specifically made for biking. You could maybe look at patagonia. REI'll be cheaper than patagonia, but a lot of outdoor stores are clearing things out.

If you wanted to make your own waterproof pants - you can buy the waterproofing stuff that they use to renew DWR finishes on outdoor gear - check out nikwax. Spray that on something like nylon, and you'd be in reasonably good shape. The nylon'll quick dry.

http://www.rei.com/product/724688

[uforgot]

check out REI's house line of pants/capris. There's some of them with a lot of pockets. Any one that's a softshell or nylon with dwr will shed water. Not specifically made for biking. You could maybe look at patagonia. REI'll be cheaper than patagonia, but a lot of outdoor stores are clearing things out.

If you wanted to make your own waterproof pants - you can buy the waterproofing stuff that they use to renew DWR finishes on outdoor gear - check out nikwax. Spray that on something like nylon, and you'd be in reasonably good shape. The nylon'll quick dry.

http://www.rei.com/product/724688

And the REI rebate earnings just came out!

[Selkie]

Ivona, while I wouldn't be inclined to wear your line, I'm probably not your target demographic, either. But I love that you are exploring your creativity and inspirations freely. That is what you can do in design school. When you get out, you most likely will not find that freedom.

Enough with the snarky comments! Really.

Thank you for saying it, Tulip.

Ivona, I started out as a Fine Arts major in college, but ended up switching to something more "practical." Continue to follow your dream.

About the revenge, keep in mind that what goes around, comes around. It's better just to let it go and forget it. ;)

FWIW, this Old Punk Rock Girl/New Waver says punk is not dead. What was in Wal-Mart was not true punk. That was poser punk!

[Biciclista]

I like the striped kneesocks!

[jillm]

I like the striped kneesocks!

www.sockdreams.com will make you very very happy

[Trek420]

check out REI's house line of pants/capris. There's some of them with a lot of pockets.

These are still my favorites:

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=23962

[Biciclista]

www.sockdreams.com will make you very very happy

oooooooooooooooooooooooo I found some REALLY COOL SOCKS THERE
they have really improved their stock since the last time i looked, thanks!

[IvonaDestroi]

Hon, punk went out when it started selling in Wal-Mart.

Karen


you'd be surprised...

[Geonz]

Lots of musicians, lots of kinds of music. :) Stick around and get to know us. You'll find the kind of music BSG & Mr. BSG play is hardly vitriolic.

Hmmm, maybe a new genre of bitter, anguished, caustic blue grass could take off :p or get them kicked out of Ralph's. :rolleyes:

"I'm just a pooooor blue grass picker.
Your doggone coffee is cold and bitter
We asked for tomatoes instead of lettuce
Now in your dang greasy dive you won't let us ..."
Pluckin' that banjo lets out a *lot* of spewage...

[shootingstar]

Though the fabric is plain (yawn-inducing :p), it would be more suitable for outwear/rainwear:

http://www.seattlefabrics.com/

If I was still sewing, I would drop by.. I have noticed over the last few years many fabric/textile outlets just don't exist period. Even for me to find a local place in town that sells a two-way jacket zipper to replace broken ones, is not that simple/convenient anymore.

[uforgot]

I'm not domestic at all, but I do sew. I had to make all of my clothes when I was in High School and I don't think I've ever purchased ready made window treatments. So, I am also mourning the loss of fabric stores. They are really not out there any more. I teach in High School and they are also taking the sewing classes out of the schools. You used to be able to find any kind of fabric or notion, and now you really have to search for anything. The nearest decent fabric shop for me is 40 miles away.

[IvonaDestroi]

Though the fabric is plain (yawn-inducing :p), it would be more suitable for outwear/rainwear:

http://www.seattlefabrics.com/

If I was still sewing, I would drop by.. I have noticed over the last few years many fabric/textile outlets just don't exist period. Even for me to find a local place in town that sells a two-way jacket zipper to replace broken ones, is not that simple/convenient anymore.

Yes I agree, around me there are a few fabric stroes but come hell or high water I can't find a decent plaid. You can get stuff online, but it's a hassle because first you need to order a swatch, wait for that to come, and then order your fabric and wait again. Plus swatches don't always give you a good idea of how the whole thing is going to look draped, esspecially with a print.

[IvonaDestroi]

Well I finnally got around to getting a new shifter cable in the thing, now I just have to deal with the tuning. Got it perfect last nite and of course today it's skipping a gear... sigh. The tires have been fine ever since I re-inflated them.


If you're easily offended don't read the following... you guys are entitled to your opinions but so am I...

I havn't seen that bike at the station since that happened, but I have decided that the best way to go about it is wait until my gitane's finished and start taking that to the station... when I see that thing it's goin down! (just a little tire deflation and removing their shifter cable... same thing they did to me!) And my other bike will be nowhere in sight...HA!:D

[PamNY]

So -- are you going to be disappointed if nobody kicks up a fuss about your post?

Pam

[malkin]

How about a note that says "I've got a hacksaw and I know how to use it."

And you might consider a ride up to the groovy bike friendly Berkeley station instead of parking at Ashby.

Of course, being young and angry is certainly an option for you (for the time being, at least.)

[eclectic]

My, my but this has been a fun thread to read! All sorts of opinions are running through my mind.

IvonaDestroi - I could relate to your initial post, angry, tired, stressed to the max. . . not a situation for clear thinking. I too was an art major and final show, portfolio development time etc is not the best time of life. Do you also have to be part of a senior fashion show?

The original post must have been censored because I didn't see the objectional language

Revenge - I tend to agree w/ most on here - it just isn't worth it and comes around to bite you in the *utt.
However just thinking of creative ways to do it sometimes has a lot of satisfaction w/o ever implementing them. :D

BTW read "A Poison Tree" by William Blake - one of my favorite poems when I am in revenge mode.

http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/a-poison-tree/

Re the fashions - I must say they are interestingly retro. I see them as a combination of punk/grunge/anime/manga.
I found it interesting that you said "stay in your comfort zone"

I am bringing this up because I am a high school art teacher and am always interested in what is going on in the post-secondary institutions around the country. My students are always asking me what schools I would recommend for them depending on their area of concentration.

So with that being said and taking into consideration that your education has been on pattern development, etc (I TRY to tell my students that it isn't just all fun and games creating interesting designs on paper - but alas they don't believe me.)

I digressed - The question I have is - although your designs are a variation of that specific genre, targeted at a very select audience, does your school push you to develop new, never before been seen lines for a wide range of clientele in diverse situations? (think commuter cyclists - to business casual -to retired women going to "the club". )

What will your portfolio be judged on?

If you don't want to answer publicly that is fine just PM me. I would like to specifically know what school you are going to and your feelings about the education you have received there. Most of my serious students end up going out of state (usually NY or CA) for their education and the more information I have the better I can help them.

Thanks and good luck as you get through these next trying months!

[channlluv]

I can't help wondering what might have happened if you'd left a note that said something more along the lines of "Congratulations on the very effective u-lock, but you've taken my bike hostage here. Accidents happen. I'm waiting at the coffee shop across the street if you'd like to make it up to me."

You might have gotten a heart-felt apology instead of vandalism to your bike.

Roxy

[Pedal Wench]

Please take the mature and civil approach. If you vandalize his bike, he might do something to an innocent's bike, thinking it's yours. What if whatever you do causes an accident? (edit: or causes him to escalate it - on someone ele's bike???) What if he's not the one hurt, but another person is hurt because of YOUR actions? What if he takes it out on MY bike?!?!?!!!

Do you really think your cable was in his lock intentionally? Really. People can get hurt, even if you can't see that far ahead.

[zeWoo]

I tend to agree with most of the folks, ya know... the anger passes, maybe just by ranting about it, you can let it go now... but if that anger comes back every time you see that bike locked up... maybe you do have to do something.

A few years ago I had a roommate from hell. She was the roommate that ended all other roommates, I'm now happy to pay 200.00 more for a cracker box that is all mine. So we had finally had the huge blow up... so I moved, on my way out the door, I dropped a frozen but quite raw fish behind the stove... I grin with delight every time I think about what happened as that fish slowly unthawed and began to decompose behind that stove... how long did it take her to figure out where that smell was coming from... how much of a pain in the arse it must have been to move that stove and who she had to get to help her move it...:D It makes me sooooooooo happy!!

So if you just have to do something -- get yourself a can of sardines and give some inconspicuous parts of his bike a nice rub down with the essential oils of the sea.

At the very least, he'll have to give the ol bike a nice wash down -- OR he'll suffer through it until it slowly wears off, but not before developing a complex. Most likely he'll never figure out it was an act of revenge, just this weird thing that happened.

[PscyclePath]

Bike rage is getting to be a common thing. One thing I talk about when teaching the Traffic Skills or Commuter classes is road rage, and how to deal with it when it happens to you or to a riding buddy. I stress keeping your cool, and not letting someone else's irrational anger ruin your ride, or your day. Life's way too short for that sort of foolishness.

A little parable that a fellow LCI share with me a few weeks back has stuck with me, and is probably a good thing to pass on...

The Law of the Garbage Truck
One day, I hopped into a taxi and took off for the airport. We were driving in the right lane when, suddenly, a black car jumped out of a parking space right in front of us. *My taxi driver slammed the brakes, skidded, and missed the other car by just inches! *The driver of the other car whipped his head around and started yelling at us. *My taxi driver just smiled and waved at the guy. *I mean, he was really friendly. So I asked, "Why did you just do that? This guy almost ruined your car and sent us to the hospital!" *This is when my taxi driver taught me what I now call, 'The Law of the Garbage Truck.'
He explained, "Many people are like garbage trucks. They run around full of garbage, full of frustration, full of anger, and full of disappointment. As their garbage piles up, they need a place to dump it and sometimes they'll dump it on you. *NEVER take it personally. *Just smile, wave, wish them well, and move on with the routine life." *Don't take their garbage and spread it to other people at work, at home or on the streets.

And when you wave at folks, use all five fingers, and not just the middle one...

Tom

[shootingstar]

He explained, "Many people are like garbage trucks. They run around full of garbage, full of frustration, full of anger, and full of disappointment. As their garbage piles up, they need a place to dump it and sometimes they'll dump it on you. *NEVER take it personally. *Just smile, wave, wish them well, and move on with the routine life." *Don't take their garbage and spread it to other people at work, at home or on the streets.

Good one.

Life is really too short.

[RinkieRides]

I understand you were angry - I would be, too. But I make it at point not to get involved with folks that are vindictive--because it can turn in to a big problem--like "road rage" and I don't want it or need it. Sometimes it's better just to leave it and not act on your feelings.