Non-whey non-soy protein drink?

[OakLeaf]

My long runs are approaching the 2-hour mark where you're supposed to take in protein during the run. Trouble is, I'm allergic to milk, and I'm very wary of hydrolyzed soy protein. Does anyone know of any hemp or other protein alternatives that aren't thick fibrous shakes, that would be suitable for drinking during a long run?

[dex]

Can you do egg white protein? Trader Joe's used to carry one (they may still, I just haven't looked in ages), and Netrition sells a 1 lb. jar for about $11.

[Pedal Wench]

My long runs are approaching the 2-hour mark where you're supposed to take in protein during the run. Trouble is, I'm allergic to milk, and I'm very wary of hydrolyzed soy protein. Does anyone know of any hemp or other protein alternatives that aren't thick fibrous shakes, that would be suitable for drinking during a long run?

Is it just lactose intolerance or a true milk allergy? The whey protein used in Endurox and Perpetuem products don't cause problems for lactose-intolerant people.

[OakLeaf]

It's a true milk allergy. I can tolerate some, but it would be an issue during exercise. I get congested, I hack up thick phlegm, my HR goes up, etc. I've tried whey protein products and I do react to them - apparently whatever the specific protein(s) are that I'm allergic to are contained in the whey fraction.

I never thought of it that way before actually... it does explain why I can tolerate cheese somewhat better than whole milk products, even though I'm not lactose intolerant.

Egg white protein sounds like a possibility. I'll look into it, thanks!

[Pedal Wench]

It's a true milk allergy. I can tolerate some, but it would be an issue during exercise. I get congested, I hack up thick phlegm, my HR goes up, etc. I've tried whey protein products and I do react to them - apparently whatever the specific protein(s) are that I'm allergic to are contained in the whey fraction.

I never thought of it that way before actually... it does explain why I can tolerate cheese somewhat better than whole milk products, even though I'm not lactose intolerant.

Egg white protein sounds like a possibility. I'll look into it, thanks!

Oakleaf, I get all the same with milk, not so bad with cheese (the 'cheese' process reduces the lactose in aged/hard cheeses) and I get no symptoms from the protein drinks. Now - all whey proteins aren't the same!

From Hammer:
Each scoop of Hammer Whey contains 18 grams of 100% micro-filtered whey protein isolate, with no added fillers, sugar, or artificial sweeteners or flavoring. The key word here is isolate. Manufacturers supply two forms of whey, isolate and concentrate. Whey protein concentrate contains anywhere from 70% to 80% actual protein, the remainder being fat and lactose. Isolate, on the other hand, contains 90% - 97+% protein, with little, if any, lactose or fat, making it the purest form of whey protein available. Because isolate contains almost no lactose, even those with lactose intolerance find it an easily digestible protein source. We use only isolate in our whey-containing products, Hammer Whey and Recoverite.

[Susan Otcenas]

Oak's post got me thinking about soy protein drinks, as I have a cow milk allergy as well (NOT lactose intolerance). Anyhoo, I googled "soy protein drinks for cyclists" and guess what came up first... THIS THREAD! Cracked me up.

Off to do some more searching. I wonder if anyone makes a non-cow whey drink....

[Susan Otcenas]

Some interesting looking options here:
http://www.naturalnews.com/025070.html

The first one I read about on more than one website. Sounds like the taste is pretty decent. It's non soy, non whey.

[OakLeaf]

I wonder if anyone makes a non-cow whey drink....

I'm actually a LOT more allergic to goat's milk than I am to cow's. Sheep's milk, I'm not sure; outside of pecorino romano I've never had it.

I'm not lactose intolerant at all. For all the problems I have with dairy, digestion isn't one of them. The difference between cheese and whole milk for me, I just realized when I posted above, is that I'm more allergic to the proteins in the whey fraction than I am to the casein and/or whatever else stays in the curds.

I do on occasion use hemp, rice, pea and potato protein supplements, especially as a recovery snack. But all of those products that I've used are more like a shake or a smoothie. Not something I'd really want to put in my hydration pack and consume on the run. I'm looking for something more soluble.

[Susan Otcenas]

Oak, I'll keep my eyes open. We get unsolicited marketing from all sorts of folks, so I'll be on the lookout for an idea. :)

[redrhodie]

How about almond milk?

[Karma007]

I've used hemp protien and brown rice protien, but my fave is "Vega". It's protien, and other good stuff. All three are vegan, and can be found at Whole Foods.

[Susan Otcenas]

How about almond milk?

Ya know, I drink Pacific Foods Hazelnut milk (occasionally their almond milk) all the time. I make lattes with it. :D But I never thought to use it riding or running. It's really tasty, but I like it COLD, which would work alright this time of year, I suppose.

[Pedal Wench]

Does almond milk have all that much protein?

[OakLeaf]

Does almond milk have all that much protein?

Nope. 1 g per 8 oz serving per Pacific's website. Hazelnut milk has 2 g (but it's also only available sweetened and non-organic).

Oat milk, on the other hand... might just be my new endurance drink. Same amount of sodium as most sports beverages, double the potassium, 19 g sugars from the malted grain itself, no extrinsic sweeteners. Still not organic though. I'll have to give it a try on my next shorter run to see how my stomach tolerates it, and also look up the specific amino acids.

[tribogota]

I use "ON Gold Standar Natural Whey, vanilla", which is "Optimal Nutrition" that has an added enzyme to digest the whey...but I am not sure how that works for a NON lactose intolerant. I am lactose intolerant, and I have been drinking this stuff for about 5 years now, cause it is the only thing that doesn't upset me. Soy, well, it is a bean...
the other thing about ON, is that is uses natural sweeteners, so, no aspartame, etc.

[itself]

I use the Jay Robb egg white protein and Hemp Powder (three flavors). Both are super yummy!

Lisa

[Triskeliongirl]

I also really like the Jay Robb products. I use the whey cuz I can, but I tried the egg white once and it is fine too.

I buy their ones that are flavored w chocolate and sweetened with stevia, since they are very low carb (I have impaired glucose tolerance).

[OakLeaf]

Do you run with those? If not, do you do sustained hard rides?

I tried oat milk and it just drinks like food, not a fluid/electrolyte replacement, unfortunately. The Infinit website talks about osmolality and that makes perfect sense to the way my stomach behaves.

I'm not running long enough to need to replace all the calories I'm burning, and protein isn't even critical, but if I can get 100-150 calories and maybe 4-5 g protein an hour, that would be great. I'm really still playing with the carbs.

Thanks!