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divingbiker
10-03-2008, 04:48 PM
I just noticed when I put my bike away for the night that the frame on the Brooks saddleon my commuting bike is broken, and I am so bummed. I am going on a 5-day ride soon, and that saddle is completely broken in and comfortable. I'll have to figure out something else in the short run. Not sure if I want to get another Brooks if I'm going to have to replace it every year.:(:(:(

Zen
10-03-2008, 04:59 PM
The one you had the cutout put in?
Did that compromise the structural integrity despite wha tthey added?
Do you want your other one back? :o

Never mind, i re-read and you said frame.
Still...

Tuckervill
10-03-2008, 05:53 PM
Aw, that stinks. Got any pictures? So we can watch out for it, too?

Karen

sgtiger
10-03-2008, 07:16 PM
Which model was it? Some of the models require a seat sandwich if used with a micro-adjust seatpost.

http://www.wallbike.com/pictures/sandwichinframe.jpg

divingbiker
10-04-2008, 02:15 AM
It's a B68. I'll try to take pictures today.

Zen, I may need that saddle back for the trip, sorry. (How is it working out for you?) My only other Brooks is a double rail saddle (like the one pictured), and it won't fit on this bike.

Zen
10-04-2008, 08:34 AM
poop :(

wackyjacky1
10-05-2008, 07:01 AM
I pulled out the little pamphlet that came with my B68, and it says, "Your Brooks saddle is guaranteed for two years from the date of purchase against defects in manufacture or materials." It goes on to say that you should return the saddle to the place of purchase, along with your proof of purchase.

You could also try www.brooksengland.com or info@brooksengland.com for more info.

Good luck!

divingbiker
10-05-2008, 09:34 AM
I pulled out the little pamphlet that came with my B68, and it says, "Your Brooks saddle is guaranteed for two years from the date of purchase against defects in manufacture or materials." It goes on to say that you should return the saddle to the place of purchase, along with your proof of purchase.

You could also try www.brooksengland.com or info@brooksengland.com for more info.

Good luck!

I'll have to check on that tomorrow. My guess is the warranty is void because I had the Selle Anatomica people put a cutout in it, even though the break is nowhere near the cutout. Thanks for the info.

divingbiker
10-07-2008, 05:09 AM
I was finally able to take a picture of the saddle. It's hard to see, but the crack is on the back part of the frame, where the rail meets it.

7395

I called Wallingford, where I bought the saddle, and Bill said to send it to him and the Brooks rep would decide if it was covered under the warranty. Fingers are crossed!

Blueberry
10-07-2008, 05:29 AM
That sucks! That's a regular B-17, isn't it? Man, I'm going to worry about every creak now:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I do hope Bill will cover it - from what I've seen in my dealings with him, he'll get you what he can.

CA

divingbiker
10-07-2008, 05:39 AM
That sucks! That's a regular B-17, isn't it? Man, I'm going to worry about every creak now:rolleyes::rolleyes:

It's a B-68, modified with a cutout by the Selle Anatomica people. I knew something was up when it started creaking loudly, then I saw that the corner of the saddle was bent down pretty far.

Tuckervill
10-07-2008, 05:43 AM
That looks like it can be welded, I think. I don't know if they could do it without removing the leather, though, and that would be bad. But what do I know?

Karen

xeney
10-07-2008, 05:43 AM
We had a similar break on a vintage Brooks my husband had on his old Schwinn. (I think it's a B68, but I'm not sure -- that style, anyway.) Unfortunately it broke very dramatically at 2 o'clock in the morning when we were miles from home. He rode home standing up because he is nuts (and possibly he was a little tipsy).

That one did not have a cutout but it was probably 30 years old. I am really sorry this happened!

BleeckerSt_Girl
10-07-2008, 07:13 AM
Just my personal take on it, but i would think that the cutout *would* compromise the structural integrity of the saddle, putting more pressure on the 2 outer corners of the steel frame which would be the only things keeping the saddle from sort of folding in half along the cutout. I would think the solid stretch of heavy leather would normally distribute your weight and pressure more evenly over the whole frame.
Otherwise it's hard to imagine a Brooks frame breaking after only one year.

divingbiker
10-07-2008, 08:13 AM
Just my personal take on it, but i would think that the cutout *would* compromise the structural integrity of the saddle, putting more pressure on the 2 outer corners of the steel frame which would be the only things keeping the saddle from sort of folding in half along the cutout. I would think the solid stretch of heavy leather would normally distribute your weight and pressure more evenly over the whole frame.
Otherwise it's hard to imagine a Brooks frame breaking after only one year.

You may be right, Lisa. There's a thick layer of laminate around the cutout (I got the "Clydesdale" version, just to be sure it would hold up) so it isn't all that flexible, but that may be the problem.

I think I'll call the Selle Anatomica folks and see if others who had a cutout in their Brooks have had this problem.

If so, I think I'll wait till Brooks comes out with their cutout saddle because the solid saddle isn't nearly as comfortable for me.