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shootingstar
08-13-2008, 12:41 PM
Did you have to take Latin in school? I took 3 years of it in high school. It was not a mandatory course.
lst & 2nd level courses were very popular because it was taught by a very dynamic teacher who made Latin come alive (horrible grammar here). For each lesson, we also learned of English word derivations for Latin words we just learned. At 4th level, some kids even learned to write Latin poetry -their love of it was that great.
But don't remember much Latin to construct a whole sentence/paragraph. Latin did help me..for an ongoing love of English words, their origins, meanings and wordplay.
OakLeaf
08-13-2008, 12:50 PM
The only Latin sentence I remember (outside of Veni, vidi, vici) is [said in a very sultry voice]:
Ave, nauta! Esne in urbe novus?
Latin wasn't even taught at my high school, but I had a semester by correspondence and another Winter Term in college. At my high school, Greek was mandatory in the Middle School, but I didn't get there until my junior year, so no Greek. (Tried a semester self-study, it was just too much, and I don't think the schedule would've worked out for me to take it with the sixth-graders.)
I remember the Greek alphabet (mostly because I set it to the tune of the English alphabet song). Dabbled in a number of modern and ancient European languages, most in depth with Anglo-Saxon (which I barely remember, either). I've forgotten much of the Cyrillic alphabet, which I learned only when our symphony chorus performed "Aleksandr Nevsky," but I can still piece out enough of it to at least identify cognates of familiar words [does the split infinitive make you grit your teeth? ha-ha]. Just discovered the Anglo-Saxon Wikipedia pages... what a hoot!
Yes, I love words.
ilima
08-13-2008, 12:54 PM
My school only started teaching Latin my senior year, so only one year of Latin. This could go on the words that grit your teeth thread or here, but I hate when alumnus/alumni/alumna/alumnae gets used improperly.
I once saw a poster for UofKY's basketball team with Ashley Judd on it. She was identified as a "Kentucky alumnus."
Funny story from a guy I know that graduated from Princeton. At the graduation ceremony there was a speech in Latin. And all the graduating students had a cheat-sheet that told them when to laugh, applaud, etc. as if they were all fluent in Latin.
cyclingmama
08-13-2008, 12:54 PM
sum, es, est, sumus, estis, sunt!
My Latin teacher told us we'd never forget it, and I never did. OK, I'll reveal how much of a geek I really am: in high school I took Latin 1, 2, and 3, and THEN went on to take AP Latin, during which we spent the entire school year translating the Aeneid from Latin to English.
Can you tell I was one of the cool kids . . . . :p
I was born in the pre-Vatican II years and learned the mass in Latin, did my first confessions in Latin, and made my first communion in Latin. I don't remember much of it...but if I hear it spoken it takes me right back to Sister Gregory's class. :p
Ninabike
08-13-2008, 12:58 PM
Interesting you should bring this up. I took 4 years of Latin in high school because my mother was a Latin teacher (not my teacher though). I thought (dumb me), great! my mother can help my with my Latin. She did help, but it still wasn't easy. I do have to admit that Latin has been very beneficial both in my prior career (nursing) and later (law). So many medical and legal words are of Latin derivation in addition to standard words that are part of everyday vocabulary for all of us, regardless of our language. I have to admit, I certainly could not put together a sentence in Latin today if you paid me!
I took two years of Latin in high school (mandatory), and two semesters (a repeat of what I already did in high school because I had forgotten enough by then!) in college, then a semester of medieval Latin with a tutor in grad school. That's a big chunk of my life devoted to learning this language and I remember NONE of it for any practical purposes. Not that there's much practical purpose to it. At various other times I've taken tons of French and a bit of Italian and German. And one workshop on Gaelic. I love languages, and it really does seem to help enrich your own native tongue to study other languages, but oddly I really, really stink at actually learning and speaking these languages. I was the slow learner in the classes that the professors tolerated because I was having so much fun with it.
Sarah
tulip
08-13-2008, 01:26 PM
In elementary, jr. high and high school, I took French. No choice in the matter until high school, when we could choose Latin instead. I did not.
In college I decided it would be a good idea to learn Latin since I was determined to be a Romance Language major. It was not and I changed majors.
Luckily I'm fluent in French and English. Spanish would be nice to learn but so far I have not gotten serious about it.
withm
08-13-2008, 01:48 PM
I have the distinction of being flunked in Latin I by the SAME nun that flunked my mother some 40 years before me. I then got transferred into a different class, and took 2 more years and did well enough so that it helped with my French all through college.
Though I never took any Spanish classes, I was able to muddle through French, Spanish, and even Italian contracts just with the French and Latin background. (In my industry all the contracts said pretty much the same thing so it wasn't that difficult). I don't claim to have made literal translations, but I got the gist pretty well, and knew when I would need a better translation of particular clause.
I have the distinction of being flunked in Latin I by the SAME nun that flunked my mother some 40 years before me.
I didn't get flunked but I did have the same nun for 2nd grade that taught my dad AND my grandfather, I think she was close to 90 at the time.
I wish I had taken Latin.
French has proven rather useless.
I'd like to be able to toss around a 'sine qua non' once in a while.
alpinerabbit
08-13-2008, 02:16 PM
7 years Latin, (not the American way with one class a day, more like between 4 and 6 per week depending on year).
I remember nary a sentence, when I see one I can hardly find out what it means but I understand (can derive) most latinate words and we learned how a language works. I kinda liked it when we got into translating poetry because they had weird ways to restructure their sentences.
7 years French (3-4/week) - after my US stay I hated it; I hate being un-proficient in it.
I just went to a 1 week brush-up intensive last fall (best school ever, if you need a recommendation).
My two favorite remnants?
Nubere vis Prisco, non miror, Paula, sapisti
ducere te non vult, Priscus et ille sapit.
Non sunt certa meam moveant quae basia mentem.
I'll give out a beer for a correct translation.
Veronica
08-13-2008, 03:30 PM
Classics degree - emphasis in Latin. 4 years of Latin in high school, 4 years in college and 3.5 years of classical Greek in college. Oh and 2 years of French in high school, 3 years of French in college and a year of Russian.
My 5th graders do very well with vocabulary and grammar. :p
V.
mimitabby
08-13-2008, 03:56 PM
2 years of latin
amo amas amat, It helped me with my Italian. i'm surprised to see so many Latin scholars here.
7rider
08-13-2008, 04:11 PM
2 years of high school Latin here. 1 year mandatory....the second year b/c the teacher snookered us with "1 year is useless...you need two to actually learn anything!" :rolleyes:
I remember "Agricola, agricolae. First declention. Farmer."
It has helped with remembering scientific names - Megaptera novaeangliae anyone? It also helped with my 3 years of high school Spanish.
tulip
08-13-2008, 04:15 PM
I remember the book--it was red. Wheelock's Latin. I don't remember anything in it, though.
SadieKate
08-13-2008, 04:27 PM
How do you say "prolly" in Latin? :p
emily_in_nc
08-13-2008, 04:40 PM
Took French III my junior year in HS, but had heard that Latin was a good thing to know (and my dad had taken four years of it back in his day) so took Latin I my senior year (not required). Don't remember anything of it. I do remember a little bit of French, and wish I'd just gone ahead and taken French IV, where you actually get to read French literature....
Veronica
08-13-2008, 04:46 PM
How do you say "prolly" in Latin? :p
Probably = probabiliter.
So if Romans were texting they'd most likely use prolly too - morons. :D:D
V.
OakLeaf
08-13-2008, 04:53 PM
"Moron" sounds Greek.
Veronica
08-13-2008, 04:57 PM
"Moron" sounds Greek.
It is. Latin for idiot is too long - homo fatuus or femina fatua.
Mr. Bloom
08-13-2008, 05:15 PM
I wish I had taken Latin.
French has proven rather useless.
I wish I had taken French. Latin proved rather useless to me.;)
I spent two years translating The Illiad and The Odyssey with Sister Mary Catherine:eek:
All I remember is something totally unrelated:
Tinitus, tinitus, semper tinitus!
Veronica
08-13-2008, 06:27 PM
The Iliad annd The Odyssey are Greek and written by Homer. If you translated something similar in Latin that would be the Aeneid, written by Vergil.
Arma virumque cano
carpaltunnel
08-13-2008, 08:17 PM
"Moron" sounds Greek.
Slightly - OK, Well off topic but you made me think of it:
While cleaning out a box last week I ran across my tiny collection of political campaign buttons. My favorite, from several presidential election back:
"No Mo Ron"
shootingstar
08-13-2008, 09:18 PM
Wow, more latin defectors than expected.
Maybe someone who has studied something as esoteric and uncool as latin, has the potential.....to walk a different path in life...that is to say, they chose later to cycle alot.
The teacher I had actually made latin fun. His first level courses attracted at least 100 new students each year. High enrollment for a dead language among the rebellious youth.
aka_kim
08-13-2008, 09:45 PM
Arma virumque cano
Trojae qui primus ab oris
Italiam fato profugus Lavina que venit.
(Spelling questionable.)
All I remember from 2 years of college Latin. :o
Mr. Bloom
08-14-2008, 03:24 AM
The Iliad annd The Odyssey are Greek and written by Homer. If you translated something similar in Latin that would be the Aeneid, written by Vergil.
Arma virumque cano
Oops...I not only forgot the Latin...I forgot what I was translating:eek::o
But I still remember the first line of Jingle Bells:cool:
and, I still remember the Greek alphabet: alpha, beta, gamma, delta, epsilon, zeta, eta, theta, iota, kappa, lambda, mu, nu, xi, omicron, pi, rho, sigma, tau, upsilon, phi, chi, psi, omega:D;)
4 years in high school and a semester in college. I took it in high school because my brother did, and I always heard stories about this crazy teacher. Once I took the class, I understood. He was definitely quirky, but he loved the language and the culture and wouldn't tolerate anyone that didn't give it the proper respect. The first year was the weed-out class to figure out who would stick with it and who would drop. From that point on, we were still "children" (specifically the "Children of the Peanut Gallery":p) and never "students". As he said, we hadn't "arrived" to that level. By senior year, there were only 6 of us left and in April he finally called us "students". Being only girls left, we all started crying, because we knew it actually meant something. Any questions about his life were answered with "That's none of your business, little girl." Every year we'd take an ill-fated trip to NYC under the guise of studying the city because it was modeled after Rome. Usually there was some type of accident involved, but we always had fun. If you couldn't keep up with him walking, you'd be left behind, and he'd give us a map before we left with places you could find a phone to call him:eek: To this day, my brother and I still keep in touch with him and occassionally go to his house to drink wine and talk.
We never learned much vocab, it was a dead language and we prefered to keep it that way (Latin is a language, as dead as it can be. It killed the ancient Romans, and now it's killing me!). We did lots of translations and conjugating and declining. I'll never forget during a test one day my friend broke down in tears. When asked what the problem was, she blurted out "We never learned the subjunctive!" That was a total lie, but he felt awful and told us to skip that section:D Yeah, I have a lot of happy memories from that class. :)
cyclingmama
08-14-2008, 08:21 AM
I remember "Agricola, agricolae. First declention. Farmer."
I would not have come up with this on my own, but the moment I read it I could hear it, plain as day, roll off the tongue of my Latin teacher. He was a phenomenal teacher as well, and those of us that stuck it out after the first year could not have escaped his class without his having a profound impact on our lives. I'm seeing that as a trend in these posts.
Facio, facere: to do. Only because the first part sounded like a swear:p
malkin
08-19-2008, 04:35 PM
No Latin for me, but the French teacher did lead us out of class one day to peek in the windows of the Latin class, to watch the Latin teacher after having written right-handed all over the chalk board marched back to the left side of the classroom, and with the eraser in his right hand and the chalk in his left hand proceeded to fill the board once again.
I've never seen anyone else who could display that particular bit of ambidexterity.
squirrell
08-19-2008, 04:54 PM
Never took it and only Latin I know is Red Green's Possum Lodge motto--
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
(pseudo-Latin for "When all else fails, play dead")
:)
BabyBlueNTulsa
08-19-2008, 05:57 PM
We were lucky that it was even offered at my HS (public high school). I decided to take it my senior year since I'd already had 2yrs of Spanish (French or Spanish was required).
I enjoyed Latin quite a bit, but I admit, I don't remember a whole lot. I believe it was very helpful anyway. As others have said, it does help translate or just figure out other latin-based foreign languages.
In college, I took 2 semesters of French (again, it became a requirement to take a language). Am I dating myself?? :P
So...I'm a dabbler in many, but a master of none.
A lot of you gals make me nervous...especially the educators on here! I know I must murder the English language at times. Hopefully I am not making you gals cringe at every post. :eek:
My fav Latin phrase: Quod me nutruit, me destruit.
(and NO, did not pick that up from <gag> Angelina Jolie's tattoo)
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