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Trek420
07-17-2008, 08:17 PM
My 'hood's a 58 out of possible 100 :o Type in your address and find out how "walkable" your neighborhood is. I assume walkable is also bikeable.

http://walkscore.com

Blueberry
07-17-2008, 08:18 PM
Mine's a 60. Not bad - actually, I thought it would be higher. There are lots of folks 'round here affiliated with the university who are car free. Not easy, but do-able.

CA

blondiebiker
07-17-2008, 08:27 PM
Mine's an 86! Woohoo!

LBTC
07-17-2008, 08:28 PM
ouch. 23. and, yet, I walk to work most days, and do a good amount of whatever shopping I can during my lunch breaks, walking, of course.

I guess I consider walkable a bit farther than they do. :D

Hugs and butterflies,
~T~

mimitabby
07-17-2008, 08:39 PM
mine is a 45!! nothing nearby except a minimarket; lots of hills, nearly no sidewalks

Eden
07-17-2008, 08:45 PM
wow! 89 out of 100

We did pick this neighborhood partially for its proximity to lots of businesses and downtown and partially because we could afford it.

It looks like the score is based on amenities within walking distance, and I'm willing to walk pretty far, so put in my walkable distance and I bet the score would be even higher. A "short" walk for us is about 4 miles round trip. Much longer than that and I usually prefer to bike.

ilima
07-17-2008, 08:55 PM
My 'hood's a 58 out of possible 100 :o Type in your address and find out how "walkable" your neighborhood is. I assume walkable is also bikeable.

http://walkscore.com

If this is the same test I did before, it assumed I was on flat ground and distances as the crow flies. I scored pretty good because I'm only about a mile to the grocery, drug store, etc. Trouble is, that drugstore is 1000' down (and back up) a very steep & wooded slope.

kelownagirl
07-17-2008, 08:56 PM
Mine is 7/100 That is not a typo. Funny I can ride to work and to the grocery store easily. Probably wouldn't want to walk it tho - too steep.

extra-vert
07-17-2008, 08:59 PM
Walk Score: 89 out of 100 — Very Walkable - excellent! I just got back from a big walk.

sgtiger
07-17-2008, 09:00 PM
34

There are a lot of businesses within walking distance, but it's on a busy highway with strip malls everywhere. Definitely not scenic.

ETA: New neighborhood is a lowly 14. Not too many businesses within walking distance, I guess. What the heck do they consider walking distance anyway? I do think it's very bike-able though. There are some busy roads with loads of places to shop, dine, etc. within five miles. I'm really excited about the huge new Asian grocery store that's nearby.

extra-vert
07-17-2008, 09:01 PM
Funny I can ride to work and to the grocery store easily. Probably wouldn't want to walk it tho - too steep.

Funny K-girl, if it was too steep, I'd prefer to walk it over cycling it. I'd be too scared to cycle it!:eek:

kelownagirl
07-17-2008, 09:07 PM
Funny I can ride to work and to the grocery store easily. Probably wouldn't want to walk it tho - too steep.

Funny K-girl, if it was too steep, I'd prefer to walk it over cycling it. I'd be too scared to cycle it!:eek:


It sucks either way but cycling is faster...:o

BleeckerSt_Girl
07-17-2008, 09:14 PM
Funny, the score from my house on the hill is only 52 out of 100. But if you punch in #1 Main St, which is only 1/2 mile from there, a few blocks away at the bottom of our hill, the score shoots up to 86! :eek:
What, a measley 1/2 mile makes our walk undo-able?? Weird.
It's a GREAT walk into town from our house, I do it several times a week and then add another 4 miles for fun!
:rolleyes:

shootingstar
07-17-2008, 09:27 PM
Ours is 85. Yes, people come to our neighbourhood to walk, bike and hang out in the park, waterside area.

I found it funny that according to the rating, we were close to..a medical library. It must be a private medical library or the hospital library which only hospital staff can use because I'm not aware of any other one. We are 15 min. walk from Vancouver's main Central library that looks like the Roman Colseum.

We live at the foot of 30 kms. bike and pedestrian path. Here I am way down on the bike below on the path, a photo taken from our balcony.

http://www3.telus.net/public/hjbecker/JeansVisions/image018.htm

True we are 5 min. walk from closest coffee shop, another 10 min. elsewhere still tons more other cafes..and restaurants..the community centre is 5 min. away ...so is doctor, dentist, my bank, etc. 15 min. walk to commuter train. Next year we will have another commuter train station in a different direction that will take you out to the airport from downtown. That train bridge...will feature a bike path deck.... :D

This is why we like to live not far from downtown or in downtown. Remember we see mountains and ocean while we are downtown.

No question, to move from Toronto to suburbs in Vancouver would have been abit of a mistake.

BleeckerSt_Girl
07-17-2008, 09:35 PM
We live at the foot of 30 kms. bike and pedestrian path. Here I am way down on the bike below on the path, a photo taken from our balcony.

http://www3.telus.net/public/hjbecker/JeansVisions/image018.htm

Oooohhh what beautiful bike paths you have!!! :eek: :p I love that photo of you looking so tiny and happy way down there!

Here are our luxurious "bike paths" in rural New York state- two lane highways with often virtually no shoulders at all- look in back of me, it's rather typical for around here. Lots of potholes too. That's our driveway on the left.... :rolleyes: :cool: ....and people kid me about wearing screaming yellow jerseys...
my road (http://harmonias.com/Lisa%20front.jpg)

tygab
07-17-2008, 10:08 PM
gah. apparently, mine is a 0 as in zero.

But the walk score apparently does not take into account the fact that I could bike to lots of places with fresh local food (in the interest of disclosure, I have not actually shopped this way yet), and can easily run to town hall and the library (which I have done). And that there is a multi use trail network in the woods behind my house. Scoring seems highly geared toward urban areas with businesses.

colby
07-17-2008, 10:19 PM
Darn, the maps are old... my street's not on it. We've been on real google maps for something like a year now.

I picked a nearby street that is on the map, and it scored a 23. Doesn't really take into account that within a mile is the farmer's market in summers, there are decent sidewalks and walking paths (and bike lanes), the few bus stops we do have are within reasonable walking distance (half a mile at most) and it's really pretty flat here. That said, there are some things you can't get within our few mile radius, either, and said public transportation isn't very extensive at all. But hey, we have a home depot now... that's pretty handy for walkers, right? ;)

Someone just needs to come up with a Cycling Score site now... :p

kelownagirl
07-17-2008, 10:28 PM
gah. apparently, mine is a 0 as in zero.

But the walk score apparently does not take into account the fact that I could bike to lots of places with fresh local food (in the interest of disclosure, I have not actually shopped this way yet), and can easily run to town hall and the library (which I have done). And that there is a multi use trail network in the woods behind my house. Scoring seems highly geared toward urban areas with businesses.

Thanks, I feel better now. :p

tygab
07-17-2008, 10:39 PM
glad to oblige :p

in seriousness, if a neighborhood is full of all sorts of stores and businesses, that may be great, but I'm not sure it's any more "green" and local. And it looks like the walk distance is like 1.5 miles or something.

Where I live I can get meat, veggies, fruit and eggs anywhere ranging from my backyard to a big farmstand a few miles away. This food has traveled extremely minimally, and has little packaging, yet this is not a factor in this method.

Don't get me wrong, walking and running are good. So is biking. So is horse riding... and I see a lot of all three :)

dex
07-17-2008, 10:41 PM
72/100 here. But a lot of what it's showing as walkable is perfectly fine for getting *to* those places, but straight uphill (or >20 flights of stairs set into the hillside) to get home. Maybe I should move to the bottom of my hill...heh.

Eden
07-17-2008, 10:55 PM
72/100 here. But a lot of what it's showing as walkable is perfectly fine for getting *to* those places, but straight uphill (or >20 flights of stairs set into the hillside) to get home. Maybe I should move to the bottom of my hill...heh.

wow - a few blocks makes a big difference - I'm pretty sure you live just a little north of me.

smilingcat
07-17-2008, 11:06 PM
I must be in heaven!!:D :D

Hermosa Beach came up with 95 ya hear 95 And this in carcentric world of Los Angels 'burb.

So cool. yes I do walk to the grocery store (Ralph's on a pinch) I walk to Starbucks if I'm too lazy to go to Java man.

must be two dozen restaurants within walking distance and another 4 or 5 dozen bars. Yes we have a dubious distinction of having the highest concentration of bars in California.

Drug stores, jewelry store, bike shops (BMX only though), and riff raffy places like Ms. so and so fortune teller... A porn shop...

a green belt to walk jog... Several large parks.

well there are downsides here.

smilingcat

ClockworkOrange
07-17-2008, 11:47 PM
Really not sure how they work their statistics out?

From where I live in Poole, Dorset, whichever direction I go, I can ride, mainly off road too.
44.

Bang in the shopping centre of Poole, Dorset it only gave it 31!

Chelsea in London, which is pure hell for cycling because of the volume of traffic and not much better for walkers with all the pollution it was given 75.

OMG...........OK, the parks are nice to walk in but Hyde Park in central London was given 91.

Sandbanks, Poole, Dorset is said to be the fourth most expensive place to live in the world and it was given 40!

I think the guys who do all the statistics have never considered cycling anywhere!

It was a bit of fun to do AND I did not think it would include the UK, thanks Trek. :)

Clock

smurfalicious
07-18-2008, 01:40 AM
Yeah I think this thing is on crack. I live across the main drag from university housing and everyone walks or bikes. That and it doesn't list half the places that are close. I have a bar within staggering distance! The Denny's is missing, McDonald's is missing... sheesh.

Duck on Wheels
07-18-2008, 03:06 AM
Hey there, Trek :) Didja try our mutual Mom's address? They gave it an 80. She was looking for a place where she wouldn't have to drive everywhere. Looks like she chose well. :D My place scored a 23, but they didn't locate the neighborhood schools, libraries, the pub and restaurant at the end of our street, the dozen or so shopping centers (not to mention the entire downtown area) within a mile or three in various directions, the parks, my gym, the LBS ... They just don't have enough info about the place. And then too, you have to know what a person's trying to achieve by walking. Are you looking for convenience, or trying to stay in shape? Sonoma is flat, flat, flat (well, there are hills all around the town, but not in the town itself). Here I can get my Saturday workout just walking downtown and back to do my shopping, carrying the groceries back up a couple miles of 10-20% hills. :cool: And then I can stop at the pub around the corner (it's even called Kvilhaugen, which means "Rest Stop Hill") to enjoy the view and a beer. But yeah, if by 80 they mean that an 80-year-old LOL can manage without a car, then they definitely got Mom's address right. :D

Mr. Bloom
07-18-2008, 03:24 AM
Hmmm...

Home #1, with no sidewalks outside the neighborhood, no bike routes, and no bus service, got a 38.

Home #2, with bike routes and sidewalks throughout the entire town and bus service everywhere - in a BikeLeague Bronze rated community...got an 18.

7rider
07-18-2008, 05:38 AM
Really not sure how they work their statistics out?


Maybe they determine based on what you can walk TO - i.e. destinations.
My house got a 17! :eek:
Our neighborhood has TONS of walkers - including dog walkers - and joggers. No sidewalks, but fairly quiet, although rolling, streets. But there isn't much in terms of destinations. The grocery store is over a mile away (bikeable, but not sure I'd want to walk there - especially on a code red air quality day like today.).

SouthernBelle
07-18-2008, 05:46 AM
Mine got an 11. It also assumed places were open to the public, which aren't. Like assuming a coffee distributor was a coffee shop.

VeloVT
07-18-2008, 06:33 AM
I got a 62. I actually think Burlington, VT is a lot more walkable than that... The following are all less than two miles from my house:
--a nice, large natural foods co-op
--a pedestrian (closed to traffic) street with shopping, restaurants and bars
--a university
--two bike shops
--two bike paths
--several parks, a "beach" (on Lake Champlain), a sailing center
--a movie theatre, a performing arts venue, a post office and a public library
--Starbucks...

uk elephant
07-18-2008, 06:44 AM
Checked out the village where I live here in Essex and it only came out at 55. But we don't actually own a car. We walk, cycle or use public transport to get everywhere. Granted it's a small village with only a couple of shops (although the lists they gave were out of date and incomplete), but the bigger city of Colchester is only 5 minutes away on the train, 15 minutes on the bus with a dense city centre largely pedestrianised. And London is only an hour away.

Skierchickie
07-18-2008, 06:54 AM
Goose Egg! However, it is the most walkable/runnable/ bikeable (just not a road bike - 2.5 miles from pavement) area I've seen in my life. It's just that we're 5 miles from anything. Can just let the dog run loose, once we get onto old logging roads. I don't like city/town living (nearly lost my mind the one time we actually did it).

However, I agree the thing is on crack - the distances it shows are all even closer than they really are. 2 miles to things that HAVE to be 10, 13 to something I know is 20. It also misplaced my house by about 2 miles, from the looks of it.

I drive to work (12 miles one way) most days (try to ride once or twice a week in the summer), groceries are on the way home, hardware store is on the way home, bank, ski trails, lbs.... all on the way home, and about 5 miles from home (although this thing says they're 2-3). I go to "town" (20 miles from home) once every week or three.

hermitclub
07-18-2008, 07:13 AM
My address got a 26. Not surprising since sidewalks just suddenly end, and we have no shoulder to ride bikes on. Still, I love Cape Cod and manage to walk and bike for both exercise and errands as much as possible, and bike commute 2 - 3 days a week. But the Cape is very car-centric and has poor public transportation.

sfa
07-18-2008, 07:34 AM
Mine's a 71, but I wonder about their scoring system. Not just the distance, but also what they consider in ranking a neighborhood. Like they don't consider the proximity of doctors and dentists. And they count odd things in categories (7-11 is a grocery store? And the university library, while very nice, doesn't allow the general public in, so why include it?) and have way, way out of date information--they have things listed for my neighborhood that have been closed for years, and a lot of stuff has opened recently (that I think makes the neighborhood even more walkable) that isn't listed. But overall a 71 seems about right for my neighborhood. If we had to, we could live without a car.

Sarah

Crankin
07-18-2008, 07:44 AM
Ha! My score is a 15! I guess it's because we have no sidewalks on my street and it's 4 miles from town, on a huge hill. However, to me that's close. I don't walk to town (well, I did twice), but I do ride my hybrid there.
Funny, we have tons of cyclists and walkers here even though it is ranked so low. But if you were a "regular" person living on my street would be a detriment to riding.
It's just far enough away so I don't become fat from going to all of the restaurants in town. If I lived one mile closer, I might be tempted to walk there more often.

Tuckervill
07-18-2008, 08:03 AM
We'll be the first to admit that Walk Score is just an approximation of walkability. There are a number of factors that contribute to walkability that are not part of our algorithm:

* Public transit: Good public transit is important for walkable neighborhoods.
* Street width and block length: Narrow streets slow down traffic. Short blocks provide more routes to the same destination and make it easier to take a direct route.
* Street design: Sidewalks and safe crossings are essential to walkability. Appropriate automobile speeds, trees, and other features also help.
* Safety from crime and crashes: How much crime is in the neighborhood? How many traffic accidents are there? Are streets well-lit?
* Pedestrian-friendly community design: Are buildings close to the sidewalk with parking in back? Are destinations clustered together?
* Topography: Hills can make walking difficult, especially if you're carrying groceries.
* Freeways and bodies of water: Freeways can divide neighborhoods. Swimming is harder than walking.
* Weather: In some places it's just too hot or cold to walk regularly.


My house had a score of 58.
Karen

rij73
07-18-2008, 08:30 AM
98! Walker's Paradise... :p

minn
07-18-2008, 08:43 AM
Ooh, my neighborhood got a 100!! I love living smack dab in the middle of the East Side of Milwaukee. Beer, Food, Laundry and Shopping all a step outside of my door. (oh and school is right here too).

ny biker
07-18-2008, 08:43 AM
This site is not up to date - it doesn't list the grocery store that is within walking distance of my house that opened earlier this year. Also it leaves out most of the restaurants, bars and shops that are in the same area as the grocery store.

BlueVet11
07-18-2008, 08:45 AM
Mine is 7/100 That is not a typo. Funny I can ride to work and to the grocery store easily. Probably wouldn't want to walk it tho - too steep.

I've got you beat! Mine is a 3/100!!! Which is true, you kinda have to drive to get anywhere and the roads are very unsafe and put together by committee for sure. The main intersection is 2 roads running parallel with each other with a little road connecting them and only 2 stop signs for 5 or 6 ways of traffic. It's scary enough in a car!

My other house is a 20/100, which is kind of a bummer because there is a big strip with 3 grocery stores, tons of fast food joints, a couple really good restaurants and misc shopping that is only a mile from my house.

ETA: the public transit bus stop is also a mile from my house.

Paradox
07-18-2008, 08:57 AM
I live in an "8".

Yep, everyone's pretty dependent on their cars/SUV's out there in the 'burbs, and the drivers aren't used to seeing anyone walking or biking on the road.

There are a few paved paths running around the neighborhoods, but none of them really go anywhere except to another road...

My partner hates living out where we do... takes 45 minutes of driving to get to any decent mountain biking trails. We both probably spend 1-1.5 hours a day in the car commuting to work too. Yep, the gas prices hurt.

Now if only the real estate market would go back up we could move w/o losing a ton of money to some place more rideable!

Midmichigangal
07-18-2008, 09:11 AM
I got 57/100

TxDoc
07-18-2008, 09:16 AM
88/100 - better than I actually expected!
:)

NoNo
07-18-2008, 09:27 AM
Woot! 78, and they're missing plenty of restaurants and bars from their list. Compare that to the 23 of my old address:eek: One of the main things that drew me to the new place were a)sidewalks and b)plenty of things within walking distance. I'm so much happier there!

redrhodie
07-18-2008, 11:17 AM
75. I'll take it, but I kinda thought it would be higher. Everything I need is within walking distance, including the beach. Well, we could use an Indian restaurant. Okay, that's worth 25 points.

btchance
07-18-2008, 02:04 PM
Where I live right now is a 9. However, we have a nice running and biking trail right out side my door, and I can go out and get 100+ miles on my bike with no problem. However, none of those routes really take you anywhere. Closest convience store is 1.5mi, closest restaurant (and only 1) is 1mi. Everything else is farther away.

So I punched in some of my old addresses, and where other places I have lived were 8 (with a grocery store only 3miles away - everything else farther), 28 (bad neighborhood - would never walk even around my apartment complex), and for where I grew up, a big whopping zero. No suprise there, as it's 3mi to a convience store, and the next closest thing is is a couple of miles further. But heck, wasn't OKC rated as having the most dependence on cars in the entire nation with common 80mi round trips to work? I would believe it.

SadieKate
07-18-2008, 02:25 PM
6 because, OMG!:eek:, the nearest coffee house is 1.01 miles away.

66 for my previous address, yet I drive a whole lot less now because this neighborhood suits my lifestyle better. No more driving long distances every week for mountainbiking, fishing, etc.

It's a pretty weird system that puts "Freedom from Hunger" under Libraries and a storage facility under Clothing & Music.

KSH
07-18-2008, 02:35 PM
74 out of 100.

Although, it's not safe. They didn't look at the crime in the area for the ranking.

Just last Sunday 2 guys were walking around the neighborhood, .10 miles from my place... one had a gun and they were robbing people. Right where I usually run, and at the store I go to, to buy food. :(

So it's only walkable if you have a concealed weapon to protect yourself.

mydisneydollars
07-18-2008, 06:43 PM
Mine is 69 out of 100 not to bad:)

mudmucker
07-18-2008, 07:08 PM
Sigh. Score of zero. Well, if I ride the bike to the hardware store or the nearest grocery store it's about a 28 to 30-mile roundtrip - same roads I'd take with the car.

Fredwina
07-18-2008, 08:43 PM
My current address is 78 - I walked to the hair salon today:) and it's a quarter mile to albertson's
Muy old pace in PA gets 15 - I would agree

JLMitchell
07-20-2008, 09:22 PM
Add another zero to the group! Mine is well-deserved, though. I'd be kidding myself if I tried to make excuses, heh.

jesvetmed
07-20-2008, 09:48 PM
I'm a 9, and it is also well deserved. Everyone here drives pickup trucks with guns hanging in the racks. And they don't take kindly to someone on foot or bike being on "THEIR ROAD"!
But on the other hand-- it's beautiful here if you ignore the people!:rolleyes:

firenze11
07-21-2008, 06:04 AM
One of mine is really low, too.

The new house is a big fat 0. But it is still pretty rural so I'm not surprised.

My school addresses, though, are pretty good. My old one is 73 and my new one is 80.

Cool site.

cyclingmama
07-21-2008, 07:30 AM
I'm a whopping "3". Which I tend to agree with in terms of walkability, but I was kind of peeved to see that categorized as "car-dependant." Considering I can easily bike to work, the gym, the grocery store, the farmer's market, etc. I take issue with that classification.

GLC1968
07-21-2008, 10:45 AM
The apartment we just vacated scored a 57 (somewhat walkable) on that engine and yet my car remained idle for months at a time and everything I needed was within 5 miles of us. Additionally, I lived 100 yards from the light rail station and everything in my neighborhood was new, so most of it didn't count.

I did have 5 (yes 5) Starbucks' within a 1.5 mile radius!! :eek:

The house we just moved to is a big whopping 0. The closest business is 2.5 miles away, and it's a feed store! But, with shopping and hospitals within 8 miles, the last stop on the light rail within 14 miles and work within 20 miles, I still don't consider our new location 'car-dependent'. Bikes rule! :p

BleeckerSt_Girl
07-21-2008, 10:54 AM
I'm a 9, and it is also well deserved. Everyone here drives pickup trucks with guns hanging in the racks. And they don't take kindly to someone on foot or bike being on "THEIR ROAD"!
But on the other hand-- it's beautiful here if you ignore the people!:rolleyes:

Interesting!- in our rural area, the guys in pickup trucks with rifle racks and John Deere hats are always pretty courteous to us on our bikes.....it's the 20 yr old guys in the BMWs and Mustangs you gotta worry about....not to mention the little 'bluehairs' in the Buicks that can barely see over the steering wheel! :(

I think it's funny how they divide everything into either walk-able or drive-able. Half the neighborhoods that get a 0 for walkability would get a much higher rating for bikeability.

grey
07-21-2008, 12:51 PM
Mine's a lowly 29 but I can ride almost to whatever I really want to do, and do walk to the grocery store and stuff so... not THAT bad!

BluePeace2
07-21-2008, 01:16 PM
My old address in the states got a 0, yes that is correct 0 but it was and still is a summer camp :) And now looking at where I live now, yes you got it a big fat 0. We have a few things near us but for groceries I'd have to bike if anything.

maillotpois
07-21-2008, 02:29 PM
If this is the same test I did before, it assumed I was on flat ground and distances as the crow flies. I scored pretty good because I'm only about a mile to the grocery, drug store, etc. Trouble is, that drugstore is 1000' down (and back up) a very steep & wooded slope.

Same for me - and it gave me an 82. We're close to town, but it's a pretty big hill back up to our house. My daughter can walk it, but she can't bike it. I can bike it, but I really wouldn't bike with groceries.