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Veronica
04-29-2008, 05:16 AM
Yesterday I rode up Mt Diablo. I was at a pretty steep section, where the grade kicks up to 9% (Burma Rd.) and I was doing about 5 miles an hour. It crossed my mind that 5 mph is just a little slower than my current running pace and I thought, "Wow! I could be running faster up the mountain." :D Okay, then reality set in and I remembered that I was going up a freakin' mountain.

V.

motochick
04-29-2008, 05:24 AM
You can run 5 mph? I can't run so that sounds really fast to me over a long distance. Like anything over 100 yards. Last week on my first mountain climb, I stopped to eat something and instead of just standing there I started walking. It too was steep like 8% and we were 15 miles into it. I was walking 1 mph! When I stopped I was only doing 4mph. That food break really helped cuz I jumped up to 5 mph when I got back on! Reality is right, uphill is UPHILL. Just curious, what gear were you in for that uphill?

Brenda

alpinerabbit
04-29-2008, 05:27 AM
I got passed by a runner up the stelvio. and a cyclist that had no calf muscles.

Veronica
04-29-2008, 05:56 AM
Just curious, what gear were you in for that uphill?

Brenda


Probably my 33 (F) - 34 (R) for the 9% section.

I like to spin. My average cadence going up the mountain is usually in the mid 70s.

I'm doing about 11 and a half minute miles in my run, for three miles.

I've only been running a week and a half. :D I'm hoping to bring it down to 10 minute miles.

V.

BleeckerSt_Girl
04-29-2008, 06:09 AM
I think the slowest I have gone up steep hills on my bike is 2.2mph. Almost (but not quite) slow enough to fall over. :p
Yes, I could have walked up it faster....but wouldn't have been carrying a 30 lb bike along.
Nowadays I can go up the same hills at about 4mph. Hey, progress is progress. :cool:

smilingcat
04-29-2008, 06:44 AM
How can you stay stay up at 2mph?? even at 5mph?

Can both of you do the track stand then?

I can do the track stand for maybe 20 seconds. but riding at 2mph, don't think so.

something isn't right when the chain ring is smaller than the cluster gears in the rear... :confused:

smilingcat

jobob
04-29-2008, 06:51 AM
V, you've ridden with me enough times to know how gawdawful slow I am up hills. :p

And there have been times when I've been keeping pace with people walking, no less running.

Hardly worth getting all depressed over, IMHO ...

And yes SC, it's entirely possible to stay upright at 2.4 mph. I imagine I've gone even slower than that and stayed upright, but 2.4 is the lowest speed my computer registers.

jobob
04-29-2008, 06:55 AM
something isn't right when the chain ring is smaller than the cluster gears in the rear... :confused:

smilingcat

I don't follow you here. I have a 26 small ring and a 28 rear on one bike, and a 26 small and 32 rear on my touring bike.

What isn't right ? :confused:

Grog
04-29-2008, 06:56 AM
You can run that fast I'm sure, but it's unlikely that you could have passed yourself running. :) On a very very steep incline it can be faster (and much less taxing) to walk than running if the distance is significant. :)

But I can feel that you'll love the hill repeats on the run. :) Just wait a bit until you have a base and you'll be in your element!!

maillotpois
04-29-2008, 07:00 AM
When I saw 1.9 mph on the climb up the back side of Cobb Mtn at the Knoxville double, that was when I decided to get off and walk for a little bit. :D

smilingcat
04-29-2008, 07:08 AM
I don't follow you here. I have a 26 small ring and a 28 rear on one bike, and a 26 small and 32 rear on my touring bike.

What isn't right ? :confused:

just bit confused. I've never ridden with compact double or triple on the front. Nor have I ever ridden a mtn bike soft or hard tail.So for me its just very strange. my biggest gear on the cluster have been 26 and that was used on Climb the Kaiser ride out of Fresno. The whole 150miles. http://www.fresnocycling.com/kaiser/2007/index.htm

smilingcat

BleeckerSt_Girl
04-29-2008, 07:13 AM
I don't follow you here. I have a 26 small ring and a 28 rear on one bike, and a 26 small and 32 rear on my touring bike.

What isn't right ? :confused:

Yeah....I have a rear cassette of 12-34 and front chain rings of 24/36/48
Works good for me! :cool:

And yes, you can stay upright when go 2-3mph- especially uphill. Float like a butterfly....

Veronica
04-29-2008, 07:16 AM
I have a compact double on the bike I rode yesterday. It's 46 - 33 in front. 11 - 34 in the rear. I like that I can spin up most anything and stay seated - up to about 20%.

V.

jobob
04-29-2008, 07:17 AM
Well, good for you, SC. :rolleyes:

Crankin
04-29-2008, 08:24 AM
Last fall I was passed by *a guy on roller blades* while climbing Oak Hill in Harvard. I was going around 8-9, not my slowest by any means. He passed my husband, too who was definitely going a little faster than me.

This guy was around my age, and i really thought it was another cyclist passing me because of the whooshing sound he was making and the fact that he was wearing a cycling helmet.
Very discouraging.

Fujichants
04-29-2008, 08:54 AM
I'm too scared to get off my bike and walk while going up a hill...so no matter how slow I go, or how tired I am, or how many people (other cyclists, runners, very, very slow runners) pass me, I keep going, because the thought of trying to get off, and then falling backwards down the hill, just freaks me out too much. :D

maillotpois
04-29-2008, 08:57 AM
I'm too scared to get off my bike and walk while going up a hill...so no matter how slow I go, or how tired I am, or how many people (other cyclists, runners, very, very slow runners) pass me, I keep going, because the thought of trying to get off, and then falling backwards down the hill, just freaks me out too much. :D

Here's the key, if it is steep: As you are getting off, hold both brakes tight. That will keep your bike steady.

Grog
04-29-2008, 09:07 AM
Last fall I was passed by *a guy on roller blades* while climbing Oak Hill in Harvard. I was going around 8-9, not my slowest by any means. He passed my husband, too who was definitely going a little faster than me.

This guy was around my age, and i really thought it was another cyclist passing me because of the whooshing sound he was making and the fact that he was wearing a cycling helmet.
Very discouraging.

I drafted BEHIND a guy going 26 km/h (a bit over 15 mph) on rollerblades. Granted, terrain was flat. But still. In Montreal they have an event "around the Island" every year... 128 km of rollerblading so there's lots of people training on the bike routes, and going quite fast!!

BadgerGirl
04-29-2008, 03:21 PM
I try to keep going too, no matter how slow I go because if I get off on a steep section, I have a hard time clipping in when I get back on. :eek: Fell over once...not hurt, except my ego...

mimitabby
04-29-2008, 03:33 PM
I was on a hill I couldn't handle (upwards of 12%) and there were cars behind me so I panicked. I inched towards the side of the road and leaned over until I fell into the grass beyond the curb. Didn't hurt a bit :D:D

RoadBunner
04-29-2008, 04:11 PM
I was thinking the same thing (about being able to run faster) as I trudged up the hills (yes, hills, NOT mountains) yesterday.

I used to live in NYC and in Central Park there would be groups of rollerbladers who basically looked and acted like cyclists. They had matching jerseys, aero helmets, did pace lines...and I'm sure they could kick my butt on a bike any day of the week!

I should practice clipping out and stopping on inclines. Once in Central Park, I was running and a guy on a bike was alongside me. We were going up the infamous Harlem Hill and all of a sudden he just tipped over. I'm assuming he lost his momentum and fell over. I ran over to him to help. Poor guy still had two feet clipped in and couldn't get out. Not having a bike I didn't know how to help him get his feet out. Luckily someone else who did was nearby and helped him out.

malkin
04-29-2008, 05:53 PM
If the goal was to get up the mountain quickly, I think you'd have made a different vehicle choice. I'm guessing you had a different goal and that's why you rode your bike.

aicabsolut
04-30-2008, 01:47 PM
Here's the key, if it is steep: As you are getting off, hold both brakes tight. That will keep your bike steady.

But how do you not fall on your face when your slippery road cleat hits the pavement at that grade :p.

Anyway, I have the same fear of not being able to get off without toppling when it's that hard. I think I managed to stay just above 3mph on a 22% grade once. I also didn't want to stop with a pickup behind me, waiting for me to make it to the top and stop swerving.

Kano
04-30-2008, 11:10 PM
So, yours is a mountain, Veronica, and mine isn't quite that big, but I gotta say, your speed, or what you consider lack of it sure is music to THIS hill slug's ears! (or is it my eyes?)

Grandson Xander calls my Roubaix my "Speed Queen Bike," but it's not real speedy on the way UP the hills!

Karen in Boise

RoadRaven
05-01-2008, 01:19 AM
You can run 5 mph? I can't run so that sounds really fast to me over a long distance. Like anything over 100 yards.
Like anything over 20 metres! :p


and a cyclist that had no calf muscles.
LOL - one of the two fastest timetriallers in our club (he wins medals at a national level) has no calves... and he can climb too...


I think the slowest I have gone up steep hills on my bike is 2.2mph. Almost (but not quite) slow enough to fall over.
I'm with you on slow up hills, my lowest is about 4.5kph... thats must be close to 2.2 miles?! :rolleyes:


How can you stay stay up at 2mph?? even at 5mph? Can both of you do the track stand then?.

Really low gears on my road bike - can't do it on my TTbike... nope, can't track stand - can track-fall though (what you do when you are trying to track-stand) ;)

BleeckerSt_Girl
05-01-2008, 07:13 AM
But how do you not fall on your face when your slippery road cleat hits the pavement at that grade :p.

Wear mountain bike shoes instead of road shoes?


(or don't use clipless at all, like me, but hey I know better than to go there on this thread!) ;)