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Trek420
09-30-2007, 07:44 AM
She's heeeere!!!

First a bit of history. A year ago I found this bike dumped, abandoned, in an unrideable condition along with a pile of other stuff-that-it's-illegal-to-dump-on-the-condo-grounds. I waited, maybe it's someones bike? And waited and finally thought "well, the bike itself is a POS but the frame is lovely".

I did everything I could to see if it was someones bike; ran ads on Craigs, checked the bike registries, even checked with local PD then finally with no owner found brought it to my LBS.

He said the frame is sound, they could turn it into a free-wheel we talked parts and off I went. Life went on, I did another AIDS ride, we re-painted and remodeled the GT my commuter, I met Knott :D took and passed tests at work I did not think much about the mixte but could always see her in the back of the shop.

It was funny though, while normally we'd discuss parts at length when I'd say
"well maybe we should do...." he'd say
"It's been decided"
"what about...?"
"It's been decided."
"will you keep the...."
"It's been decided" :cool:

So they were having fun at the shop with the project :D The guys at my shop have my sort of quirky sense of humor, one of the many things I like about them.

You should see what they do to telemarketers. :cool: :rolleyes: :D

The other thing that was odd is he would never discuss the cost. This has been my shop for about 10 years and we always talk about costs
"I need to do ___ , I want to get ____"
"That would cost you $___ but I could do ____ it would do the same thing"
"But but I've heard _____ is better"
Then he gives me all the pros and cons and ____ would save me the weight of one spoke but cost _____ but if I really want my bike to do ____. So we always talk about the costs and benefits but he wouldn't on this bike.

Knott said "that's because he's doing it free" and I said "people don't do that, that's silly." She said "I bet he is." Listen to Knottedyet, she is wise.

Finally it was done. My LBS says that all week the bike got oohs and ahs in the shop. One of his clients who I also know from Aikido is inspired to bring in an old Massi he has. Who knew Robinson Wheelworks he could do single speed conversion? :cool: I knew 8-)

She is a puhrty puhrty bike.

So I go in there and whip out the credit cards cause I know what bikes cost and say "what do I owe you?" He says "nothing" my jaw drops.

I insisted, he says no, back and forth this goes, he picks up a broom I grab a handlebar the fight rolls out to the alley ... just kidding about this last bit. :rolleyes: I'm pretty close to tears by this point and I'm a tough gal so that does not happen often (ignore Knotts hysterical laughter in the background) I tell him I really never cared how long it took, this is a fun project bike and not my major mode of transportation after all and he should get paid. He insists. He's at least 6'2", he wins. :cool:

Folks, support your LBS, and buy 4 bikes get one free. But seriously it's all about service, box stores do not do this. Over the years I know my shops advice has saved me many times what I've spent there.

When I brought the bike home could not resist a short ride.

Wellgo platform pedals are supportive and surprisingly grippy. I know Knott and others here ride platform pedals. I felt that I could stand in the pedals even wearing sandles! :) Must work on that oh so fashionable trackstand while holding cup of coffee. :rolleyes:

The shop chose Salsa Delgado Cross wheels, black spokes and rims with Continental Ultra gatorskin tires. Surly single speed hubs. Apparently he agonized about the color choice; black, chrome, black, chrome .... he picked the right one. It looks striking with the tea-green of the bike and more important they handle as well as they look.

Nitto Dynamic stem, cork wrapped mustache bars with Cane Creek 200TT brake levers look clean and simple. Did you say TT:eek: ? Yeah, I did. :p They face forward, counter of "normal" brake levers. He thought up achieved this look by using the same type of levers he was putting on the aero bars of a Cervello TT bike when I was in.

They are positioned juuuust right. If they were straight down my wrists would be a little awkward. They are turned ever so slightly in, perfect!

The brakes are Tektro R556 verrrry long reach brakes.

And to cap it off just a perfect little brass "temple bell"

I'll post more pictures as I get them but some are here.

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=6993

kelownagirl
09-30-2007, 09:21 AM
Very cool Trek! What I wouldn't do to have my old 1975 10-speed back again. It was a purple Apollo bike. It cost me $114 and I loved it.

So when are you to ride it? Just for fun or ?

Trek420
09-30-2007, 09:40 AM
So when are you to ride it? Just for fun or ?

Aren't all our rides for fun? :cool: :) I was thinking on my first Tri .... maybe not. :rolleyes: Maybe a ride to coffee today but we need to do a low key and I mean really low key Bay Trail ride.

RoadRaven
09-30-2007, 12:07 PM
Wow Trek
Great story
:)
What a very very cool LBS and 6'2" dude!
I can so relate to that... with 7 cyclists in my family, doing four different types of riding, we end up with lots of spare parts and extras that we keep "just in case".

We have often given spare shoes, aero bars etc to people in need, or helped them with tweaking their bikes, with no expectation of payment. You do these things for pleasure, to see the enjoyment on someone elses face, or just because its great to see another bike on the road, or a bike or cyclist given a second chance.

But your story is even better because here is a money making institution who realises it is not ALL about money... who has not forgotten about the excitement of people, or the pleasure of creation...

Looking forward to hearing about your first few rides on her...

dex
09-30-2007, 12:17 PM
I'd love to see your handlebar and brake lever setup. I have an old Mercier mixte sitting in my kitchen right now, awaiting a makeover/rebuild, and I was thinking moustache bars for her. Yours looks awesome! I'm sure you'll have loads of fun with it. :)

DebW
09-30-2007, 01:03 PM
Wow. That sure turned out well. And rebuilding a 73 Motobecane isn't the easiest thing in the world since the parts are French (different threading). At least you don't need French threaded freewheels since you got a new hub.

Trek420
09-30-2007, 01:04 PM
Very cool Trek! What I wouldn't do to have my old 1975 10-speed back again. It was a purple Apollo bike. It cost me $114 and I loved it.

Maybe that's the feeling of rebuilding an old bike. It's like the first bike you learned to ride on and the feeling it gave. We're older now and we know all about the fancy stuff. We log our rides, journal them on TE and BJ plot it out coordinated to our HRM.

But when's the last time I just rode around the block just because I could? I sure don't know when that last was but I just did.

At one corner a man called out "nice day for a ride!" and I replied "yeah it is!" I don't get that response from people when on my road bike which kinda says "don't interrupt the serious (but hecka sloooow) rider training" or the GT comutermobile. That was nice.

DebW, yes, I thought this was not an easy build to do. Chris hid his scraped knuckles well. ;) It has a sticker on the tube "built with 1020 tubes & stays". What's that? Not Columbus.

Zen, that's whatever the technical term is for what you call the part you ring the bell with. :rolleyes: We're so high tech here.

RoadRaven, he's an incredible businessman, with a tiny two-man shop I think he does quite well. Just hanging around I learn a lot about business like he's very efficient on shipping and saves a ton there. You'd think shipping costs would be sky high because with a small shop he can't get things in bulk. But I think a lot of us do good stuff with spare parts etc. I know he donates to the local Trips for Kids Store. I'm staring at a box of stuff now that's going to go either there or ALC riders. Yes, it's possible to have too many jerseys :rolleyes: or to shrink out of them. ;)

Dex like this? Don't tell Mimitaby you have a Mercier, I think that's what she wants. But do post pictures!

Zen
09-30-2007, 01:05 PM
You should see what they do to telemarketers. :cool: :rolleyes: :D I like to ask them "what are you wearing right now?"



... he picks up a broom I grab a handlebar the fight rolls out to the alley ... I saw that on YouTube!


Folks, support your LBS


HEAR, HEAR!

What is that black knob looking thing above the bell?

Trek420
09-30-2007, 02:38 PM
I saw that on YouTube!

Nah, you saw this on YouTube, Spzzdog and I fighting over the check at the pre-Cinderella dinner.

DebW
09-30-2007, 02:47 PM
DebW, yes, I thought this was not an easy build to do. Chris hid his scraped knuckles well. ;) It has a sticker on the tube "built with 1020 tubes & stays". What's that? Not Columbus.


I wonder how many swear words it took to get the cotter pins out. :rolleyes:

1020 is a grade of chro-mo steel. It was used on low-to-middling 10-speeds back in the day. Not the quality of Columbus tubing, but well above department-store grade. I believe 1020 was used on Motobecane Mirages (and maybe Nomads?) which came in mixte frames. The original weight on a Mirage was around 27-28 lb with lots of heavy steel parts, but since you've got upgraded wheels, crankset, a single rear sprocket, single chainring, no derailleurs, I'd guess your mixte now weighs.... 24 lb (maybe 23 1/2?).

Trek420
09-30-2007, 03:12 PM
since you've got upgraded wheels, crankset, a single rear sprocket, single chainring, no derailleurs, I'd guess your mixte now weighs.... 24 lb (maybe 23 1/2?).

Which makes little difference because the rider has gained back 7 lbs lately :eek: :mad: but with a few more "nice day for a ride, isn't it?" rides ... :p

BleeckerSt_Girl
09-30-2007, 03:38 PM
Trek- so great, the whole story!! And the green is perfect, and the cork bars.

I am still not seeing any pix of the whole bike- just a bit shot here and there- am I missing a whole bike picture somewhere?? :confused:

Zen- the black knob is the thing you flick with your finger that hits the bell and makes it ring- it's on a spring.

Trek420
09-30-2007, 03:58 PM
How's this? :)

KnottedYet
09-30-2007, 04:32 PM
She needs a nice honey Brooks.

A B17 for your little heinie, and a B67 for when I come to visit!

rij73
09-30-2007, 04:56 PM
WoW! It's so beautiful... Makes me all nostalgic just looking at it. What a lovely LBS. Great story...

KnottedYet
09-30-2007, 05:38 PM
I can't see the pedals in your pic very well, but are they these?
http://www.rei.com/product/752200

Now that I've discovered how well BMX pedals work for me, I need to get a pair of my own (so I can give the ones I'm using back to SKnot.)

Trek420
09-30-2007, 05:44 PM
I can't see the pedals in your pic very well, but are they these?
http://www.rei.com/product/752200

Close, I think they're these

www.bonthronebikes.co.uk/157-26073

no reflector and open, "drilled" on side and back. I dunno about a Brooks for me. The Avocet is one of the saddles my butt likes. Chris says "phase two" should be some lovely hand-hammered fenders he carries. :)

I also need to figure out storage; under seat bag, handlebar bag. The Nigle Smythe bag I have on the commuter doesn't fit.


WoW! It's so beautiful... Makes me all nostalgic just looking at it. What a lovely LBS. Great story...

I know, isn't it? I'm hearing Disco in the background when I ride ;)

BleeckerSt_Girl
10-01-2007, 09:30 AM
Close, I think they're these

www.bonthronebikes.co.uk/157-26073

no reflector and open, "drilled" on side and back. I dunno about a Brooks for me. The Avocet is one of the saddles my butt likes. Chris says "phase two" should be some lovely hand-hammered fenders he carries. :)

I also need to figure out storage; under seat bag, handlebar bag. The Nigle Smythe bag I have on the commuter doesn't fit.



I know, isn't it? I'm hearing Disco in the background when I ride ;)


Yeah, the modern black plastic stuff does not really "go" with this bike.
Those Honjo hammered fenders would look nice. :) Lots of Rivendellers use those. But me- I'm a minimalist and I can see your Moto with plain chrome fenders like the classic old ones.
Canvas bags are def the called for thing here. Duluth has a few limited supply canvas bags available right now, and they are VERY cheap compared to other brands:
http://www.duluthpack.com/search_results.aspx?Search=bike+bag&x=0&y=0
Apparently they found some boxes of old stock bags and are selling them off.

I have both the banana bag and the Little Joe (which is pretty roomy).
I think you could cover most stuff with a LJoe on the back and a candy bar on the front. Since this is a townie bike, you might want to consider a basket for those loaves of French bread and bottles of wine you might pick up in town. ;) Check out VO's REAL classic baskets:
http://www.velo-orange.com/bapaandba.html

And here are the fenders (both hammered and smooth) and nice leather mudflaps:
http://www.velo-orange.com/fenders.html

Lisa

dex
10-01-2007, 10:24 AM
Aaaggghh. This thread is way too dangerous for me. It's making me itch to get to work on my Mercier like you wouldn't believe. Also, my finger keeps hovering over the "Add To Cart" button on that banana bag, with thoughts of, "It'll be sooo pretty on Giselle..." filling my brain. *sigh*

mimitabby
10-01-2007, 10:30 AM
Trek, what a wonderful story and what a beautiful bike!
I AM sorry i didn't do business with your LBS.

Those handlebars, how wide are they?

I also love the photograph... makes me want to get my paints out again!

Duck on Wheels
10-01-2007, 02:14 PM
She's a beauty! Has she got a name yet? I wondered, what with her tea green color and the bell, if maybe there was some item from the tea ceremony that had a name-like name. So I looked up tea ceremony words (a friend of Mom's teaches courses and has a web site). The whisk is called a chasen. What with her spokes, could she answer to the name of chasen?

mimitabby
10-01-2007, 02:16 PM
It's not my bike, but that's a cool name, Duck!

Duck on Wheels
10-01-2007, 02:24 PM
BTW, does Chris carry Nitto bars? I need to pick up a Nitto albatross for the neigbor. Her back-swept bars got stolen and all the bike shops carried here by then was straight bars, which are hard on her wrists and shoulders. So I showed her the albatross on line and she lit up. :D What with the $ so low these days, it's no big deal to pick one up when I'm over there next week, eh? But for getting all the way out to Rivendell in Walnut Creek, that is ... :(

Trek420
10-01-2007, 04:19 PM
BTW, does Chris carry Nitto bars? I need to pick up a Nitto albatross for the neigbor. Her back-swept bars got stolen and all the bike shops carried here by then was straight bars, which are hard on her wrists and shoulders. So I showed her the albatross on line and she lit up. :D What with the $ so low these days, it's no big deal to pick one up when I'm over there next week, eh? But for getting all the way out to Rivendell in Walnut Creek, that is ... :(

Chris's shop is so small he "carries" very little. I think the term is "just in time" inventory. You want it he can get it with enough notice or a brief notice.

But you really should make the "Pilgrimage" to Rivendell shop :cool: It is so cool, or if you know what kind you want I may be able to pick up.

KnottedYet
10-01-2007, 08:21 PM
Road Trip to Rivendell!!!!!

How 'bout next Saturday? We could have lunch in Walnut Creek, too! Bicycle Bonding with Trek420 and DuckOnWheels!

Trek420
10-01-2007, 08:59 PM
Road Trip to Rivendell!!!!!

How 'bout next Saturday? We could have lunch in Walnut Creek, too! Bicycle Bonding with Trek420 and DuckOnWheels!

Hi hun, Not next Saturday but the one after that plus it's kinda complex since DoW will just have got off a flight from uhm somewhere in Canada? Our mutual Mom will have driven down to the airport, pick her up, then the plan was to meet us (that's you and me) somewhere along with Mom, DoW and my mutual niece (therefore UK Elephant's cousin) for lunch? Or is that dinner? Depends on the flight, and traffic. Most likely Berkeley since niece (as yet unnamed on TE since she spins sometimes) has small child.

So while negotiations continue I may make a seperate trip to Riv to pick up a bar and we all meet somewhere. Stay tuned.

uk elephant
10-02-2007, 02:09 AM
Trek - that bike looks really cool! Will I get a chance to try it out some day? I was thinking about what pedalling a singlespeed would be like as I pedalled in to work this morning. Don't think I've been on a singlespeed since my three-wheeler when I was a toddler. Oh, and I'm starting to understand the need for more than one bike....will definitely need to find that well-paying job soon....:rolleyes:

I haven't been very good at keeping up with everybody, but I have been lurking. Reading your "chattering" is a very welcome break from writing these days. Thank you for letting me eavesdrop :o I'm planning to be more social if only I can get this thesis done and the defense out of the way......though the list of things to catch up on is getting very long! All the riding, all the knitting, the baking, the quilting, the socializing! I'll by busier than ever :D