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NJBikeGal
07-05-2007, 05:48 AM
According to cycling news (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jul07/jul05news2), the verdict in Floyd's trial will be announced some time on Friday. Perfect timing, eh? Just 24 hours before the start of the Tour. It's kind of a shame to do that, since it will draw so much attention away from the guys that are out there busting their humps to win this year. All anyone will be talking about on Saturday will be Floyd! It would make a great drinking game, though...take a gulp everytime one of the commentators says Floyd or Landis! :)

amymisk
07-05-2007, 07:59 PM
Love the drinking game idea, I may just suggest to DH. HMMM-shots of preferred spirit each time we hear Floyd or Landis, sounds really good to me!

Jiffer
07-05-2007, 08:30 PM
A few weeks ago I asked Dh if he had heard anything about the verdict yet. He said they had 30 days from the time they started delierating and he predicted they'd wait until right when the Tour was starting to announce it in order draw more attention to the Tour. Looks like he predicted correctly. :)


:D FINGERS CROSSED FOR FLOYD!!! :D

Kalidurga
07-06-2007, 04:31 AM
Re: The drinking game- To make it really authentic, the shots should be whatever Floyd drank the night of Stage 16. Jack Daniels, if I recall correctly...?

On a more serious note, I've got my fingers crossed for Floyd. Though whatever verdict comes out, you know there will be an appeal from the opposite side that will continue to drag the whole thing on and on.

maillotpois
07-06-2007, 08:38 AM
Any idea WHEN today? The article wasn't specific.

I am on the edge of my seat, though hopes will likely be dashed.

snapdragen
07-06-2007, 10:39 AM
Any idea WHEN today? The article wasn't specific.

I am on the edge of my seat, though hopes will likely be dashed.

Me too, I keep refreshing my homepage....

//hoping Floyd wins - won't be surprised if he doesn't.

maillotpois
07-06-2007, 10:56 AM
Glad I am not the only one sitting here hitting the news page over and over... :rolleyes:

Gives me something fun to do while drafting a letter to the presiding judge of Contra Costa County superior court about forgeries of judicial documents and legal docs by a former secretary of our firm... :eek: Floyd's not the only victim of record tampering here.... Shockingly easy to do. She forged my name to several docs so I have to see about putting some sort of fraud alert on my state Bar #. What a PITA.

Zen
07-06-2007, 12:37 PM
Do you really think he would appeal?
I thought he was tapped out financially and it would certainly be stressful and emotionally draining.

Kalidurga
07-06-2007, 01:06 PM
As financially and emotionally tapped out as Floyd may be, he's certainly made it sound as if he would carry this fight as far as he possibly could. I don't know for sure that he would appeal, but if the verdict's in his favor I'd be very surprised if UCI &/or WADA didn't.

Blueberry
07-06-2007, 01:36 PM
Glad I am not the only one sitting here hitting the news page over and over... :rolleyes:

Gives me something fun to do while drafting a letter to the presiding judge of Contra Costa County superior court about forgeries of judicial documents and legal docs by a former secretary of our firm... :eek: Floyd's not the only victim of record tampering here.... Shockingly easy to do. She forged my name to several docs so I have to see about putting some sort of fraud alert on my state Bar #. What a PITA.

MP-

That SUCKS! I agree - quite the PITA. UGH! Good luck getting it resolved:cool: :cool:

CA

maillotpois
07-06-2007, 04:38 PM
Thanks CA!

No news yet from Floyd. I hate these people. Why must they keep us all waiting???

teigyr
07-06-2007, 04:41 PM
I know. I refreshed all flippin' day. And now it probably won't be until monday?

maillotpois
07-06-2007, 04:50 PM
Yeah, me too. WhatEVER!! :mad:

7rider
07-06-2007, 04:53 PM
Thanks CA!

No news yet from Floyd. I hate these people. Why must they keep us all waiting???

Politics.
It's all politics.

I've got money (well, not really) on a guilty ruling. Yeah, plenty of reasonable doubt - I just don't know if that's the standard - but we're talking about the French national lab. Yeah....Floyd will be the fall guy. Poor bass-tah-d.

teigyr
07-06-2007, 04:56 PM
Actually I think if Floyd were to be found innocent, it would put a lot of scrutiny on them. Floyd fought it because he had a reason to despite the fact it was a lot of money. For those who were accused and maintained innocence, it was easier to sit out the suspension. I still think Tyler was innocent so, you know, I'm bitter :)

PinkBike
07-06-2007, 09:27 PM
http://www.podiumcafe.com/story/2007/7/6/12836/67908

according to this link the rumor of the announcement was unfounded

Kalidurga
07-07-2007, 03:06 AM
Here's Lance's prediction- BikeRadar.com: Landis gets Lance's backing. (http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/landis-gets-lances-backing-11461) In a nutshell:


"I think conventional wisdom is that he will lose, because USADA has never lost a case," said Armstrong, the guest speaker at an Aspen Ideas Festival health forum discussion on Tuesday.
"The arbitrators don't ever rule for the athletes. Quite frankly the system is set up against the athletes. ... Unfortunately for him, I don't think he did it. That's always been my position and still is today, but I'm not sure that's he going to get a fair shake in this trial."

RoadRaven
07-08-2007, 11:36 AM
Thanks for that link, Kali... Lance came out straight away in support last year. I have always found that interesting as he hasn't supported other riders who stood accused (like Hamilton, for example - Lance never said a word)

I was disappointed when watching the prologue that there was no "number 1" jersey this year... not because Floyd wasn't riding, but because they still hadn't reached a *!!(^***%# verdict!!!

So ANY idea - for real?? Any idea at all??? Maybe after the Tour so as not to "discolour" and distract from it...?

Kalidurga
07-11-2007, 05:00 AM
Floyd had this to say about an appeal (from Cyclingnews.com: Landis continues book tour through American Midwest (Cyclingnews.com))-


Of course, people wanted to know when the decision was going to come down, and if it is against him, if he will appeal. "My lawyers have not heard anything," he said. "There is no real timeline except for a ten day minimum after the hearing closes. It depends on what the ruling says. I really believe there is very little chance I would not appeal it. I don't know what they could possibly write that would convict me. But if they say 'we just don't like the guy', then it is going to be hard to appeal that!"

"I hope it is soon, but I also hope it doesn't take away from the guys who are racing this year. They deserve more credit than they are getting."

From the way he races to the way he's fighting this issue, Floyd is one determined dude.

smilingcat
07-11-2007, 09:28 AM
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From the way he races to the way he's fighting this issue, Floyd is one determined dude.

I value my reputation as a honest, descent, caring person. And I would fervently defend my reputation. I wouldn't expect anything less from him unless he is guilty.

my 2cents.
smilingcat

PinkBike
07-11-2007, 11:30 PM
just finished floyd's book today. after reading some previous threads I was leaning towards "science doesnt lie," especially in regard to the carbon isotope ratio test. but now I am CONVINCED he is innocent. i would love to go to a book signing, that would be so cool! maybe he'll show up at el Tour de Tucson again this year!

Zen
07-12-2007, 10:55 PM
I guess now they're waiting for the tour to finish...

teigyr
07-12-2007, 11:08 PM
I was at his book signing tonight in Seattle. He is probably one of the most straight forward people I have ever talked to.

Jo-n-NY
07-13-2007, 05:14 AM
just finished floyd's book today. after reading some previous threads I was leaning towards "science doesnt lie," especially in regard to the carbon isotope ratio test. but now I am CONVINCED he is innocent. i would love to go to a book signing, that would be so cool! maybe he'll show up at el Tour de Tucson again this year!

Ditto for me!!! Although I did go to the book signing and I am so glad that I did. Before reading the I kinda figured that he was innocent but you know when you really just want something to be true. Well, after reading the book I am also convinced. There is just too much info in there and I have not heard anyone coming out and saying any of it is not true.

I think Congress should do a thorough investication of USADA before giving them one more red cent, which is also our tax payers dollars.

~ JoAnn

equus123
07-13-2007, 06:35 AM
I was leaning towards "science doesnt lie," especially in regard to the carbon isotope ratio test.

well...it doesn't.

but you can say that it does if you have people not following the prescribed scientific processes and procedures. especially with those crazy tests these labs have to perform - there's an exact way the machines need to be calibrated, an exact way to follow each step, etc. if these are not followed correctly (and they can't exactly prove their inaccuracy) then who looks like the bad guy?? :rolleyes:

i feel for Floyd. i hope the USADA doesn't follow suit the way they've always done and never let the athlete win. i hope they can stop being full of themselves or playing with politics and use the justice system for what it's made for.....