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madscot13
05-27-2007, 08:04 AM
I have been upping my biking this summer. I want to do century distances, not centuries per se just know that I can go the distance. So I have been biking 6 days a week and weightlifting another 2 times a week. The result? I am always hungry! Before my ride I have yogurt/ granola and a banana. After I get home I have eggs and buttered toast. Currently I am only having one serving of meat a day either chicken, beef, or pork. There is ususally pasta or rice involved somewhere. Cheese is usually inserted somewhere in my day (gotta stop making those crazy casseroles). I don't eat junk food of any sort or go for dessert when it is not fruit. I am hitting at least five servings of fruits and vegetables (maybe just because I am eating so much).

I am really just eating without thinking about it though and I am reasoning that if I am exercising this much my body can handle it. Should I be worried? How should my food consumption be balanced- fat, carb, protiein. My weight is stable and I am feeling fine. I just want to feel fine when I am my parents' age. I don't want to wreck my body at 22 by being neglectful or overanxious.

KnottedYet
05-27-2007, 08:08 AM
You aren't eating junk.

You're eating lots of fruits and veges.

You're active.

You feel good.

Sounds great to me!

madscot13
05-27-2007, 08:34 AM
If KnottedYet says so then I am good to go!

KnottedYet
05-27-2007, 08:41 AM
If KnottedYet says so then I am good to go!

Ooooh, who knew I had such power?!?

I CAN RULE THE WORLD!!!!! NAY, THE UNIVERSE!!!!
:D :D :p

Trek420
05-27-2007, 08:52 AM
Ooooh, who knew I had such power?!?

I CAN RULE THE WORLD!!!!! NAY, THE UNIVERSE!!!!
:D :D :p

Listen to the wit and wisdom of Knott, soon to be an infomercial, then a book and then a major motion picture showing near you. Knotted is very wise. :p :D :cool:

Zen
05-27-2007, 08:52 AM
My weight is stable and I am feeling fine.

Just keep doing what you're doing for the next sixty years:eek:

And have some cake.

madscot13
05-27-2007, 11:41 AM
Just keep doing what you're doing for the next sixty years:eek:

And have some cake.

But then how can I have it and eat it too?

Eden
05-27-2007, 11:49 AM
ooohhh skip the hotdish and you can probably add cake without too much penalty....
(hot dish = scarey ingredients :eek: )

madscot13
05-27-2007, 01:22 PM
I usually don't have dessert becuase I don't have a very big sweet tooth. I still have all of my Halloween candy. Now don't ask why I have Halloween candy. but if you will look to the left you can see what I wore.

But hotdish (casserole to everyone in the other 49 states) is a dream. I can make one dish and eat for the whole weekend. I also used to make my housemates sit down for a family dinner once a week, and during Lent the rule was "if it could be served in a casserole dish it was dinner". How is that for piety?

Zen
05-27-2007, 02:09 PM
I like hotdish:)
I will confess to liking hamburger helper stroganoff flavor though i make it with turkey.

How did you keep from walking into things?

Bikingmomof3
05-28-2007, 04:26 PM
But hotdish (casserole to everyone in the other 49 states) is a dream. I can make one dish and eat for the whole weekend. I also used to make my housemates sit down for a family dinner once a week, and during Lent the rule was "if it could be served in a casserole dish it was dinner". How is that for piety?


I was born and raised in MN and I still refer to the dishes at a hotdish. I get a lot of weird looks. There are numerous healthy hotdishes out there, as I am certain you are aware.

Plus Knot already said you are good to go. :D

madscot13
05-31-2007, 08:02 AM
do you have any great nutritious hotdish recipes? I am always on the lookout!

smilingcat
05-31-2007, 11:15 AM
would enchilada be considered hotdish then??

we use shredded steamed chicken breast with black beans(cooked), onion, tomato, and cheese. The filling is rolled inside a totilla then lined in a baking dish. We then pour a canned (horror of horrors premade stuff) enchilada sauce sprinkle more cheese on top and bake.

serve with shredded lettuce, avocado, and sliced raddishes. I also like to pour some kind of salsa sauce over the whole thing. TASTEY!!!

Shawn

northstar
05-31-2007, 11:25 AM
do you have any great nutritious hotdish recipes? I am always on the lookout!

Ahem, ahem...this is the Northeast Minneapolis Hotdish Revolution Tater Tot Excellence category champion speaking...yes, two years running...

I've won with my Tater Tot Hotdish each year I've entered. Go classic. Ground beef. Corn. Tasty and healthy (not) cream o' mushroom soup. Heaps of tater tots. Bake until bubbly and gooey. (I also like lowry's on top. I am not a good healthy cook.)

northstar
05-31-2007, 11:27 AM
http://www.livene.info/home/index.php

Here's info on the Hotdish Revolution. It's a community fundraiser. TONS of fun!

spokewench
05-31-2007, 12:00 PM
Hot dishes are great as long as you keep the ingredients in them fresh. Don't use condensed soups (low salt chicken broth or vege broth is okay); minimize the cheese, add lots of veges, lean protein and you are set for a very nice healthy meal!

madscot13
05-31-2007, 12:20 PM
Oh hey I agree about the condensed soup! it may be great for moms in a rush, but making your own sauce from scratch is the best way to go and the healthiest. I maximize the cheese, we love the flavor. But hey this gets back t my original post- should I be worried about the cholesterol and saturated fats in my foods? A lot of the protein rich foods I eat have a lot of fat and I want to know if I should change my diet.

madscot13
05-31-2007, 12:25 PM
Ahem, ahem...this is the Northeast Minneapolis Hotdish Revolution Tater Tot Excellence category champion speaking...yes, two years running...

I've won with my Tater Tot Hotdish each year I've entered. Go classic. Ground beef. Corn. Tasty and healthy (not) cream o' mushroom soup. Heaps of tater tots. Bake until bubbly and gooey. (I also like lowry's on top. I am not a good healthy cook.)

I cannot believe that I have been in the presence of greatness and not known it!

ps how could you not tell me about the casserole cook off?! I think I will practice for next year.

spokewench
05-31-2007, 12:53 PM
Oh hey I agree about the condensed soup! it may be great for moms in a rush, but making your own sauce from scratch is the best way to go and the healthiest. I maximize the cheese, we love the flavor. But hey this gets back t my original post- should I be worried about the cholesterol and saturated fats in my foods? A lot of the protein rich foods I eat have a lot of fat and I want to know if I should change my diet.

Cheese is not bad for you - I use it too. Actually, I don't drink a whole lot of milk so I get most of my calcium from food in cheese. It sounds like to me you have a nice round diet so I don't think you have a problem. We can all get too obsessed about what we eat or don't eat! When I say minimize the cheese, most people will put an awful lot of it in a typical, old fashioned casserole and I have found that I can get really tasty casseroles without quite as much cheese. It is a saturated fat so I try to minimize it. I add chile pepper flakes to add flavor to casseroles, lots of herbs, brown the meat before I put it in to add flavor, the chicken broth low sodium adds flavor and even the veges (a little tomato with the acidity adds flavor) as well as onion and other aromatic vegetables. If the rest of the casserole is really tasty, you don't need quite as much cheese to add to the flavor. Also, another trick is to use cheeses like parmesan that have intense flavor so you don't have to use quite as much (or add this to say your cheddar to add flavor and cut down on the amount of cheddar) use sharp cheddar so you can use less for the flavor. These are just a lot of tips to cut the saturated fat in your casserole and they taste just as good!

It helps if you like to cook like I do and do a lot of experimenting! I hardly ever use a recipe out of a cookbook, but even when I do, by the second time I make that recipe, I will be altering it some way! Ahh the joys of cooking!

Spoke

Keely
05-31-2007, 06:42 PM
I have been upping my biking this summer. I want to do century distances, not centuries per se just know that I can go the distance. So I have been biking 6 days a week and weightlifting another 2 times a week. The result? I am always hungry! Before my ride I have yogurt/ granola and a banana. After I get home I have eggs and buttered toast.


If you're upping the distances you're riding and you're hungry, have you thought about eating while you're out riding? On a ride that is under 2 hours you might not need to take anthing to eat, but when you are riding for more than 2 hours your body has started to run out of fuel. Your muslces can only store so much glycogen. Also when riding the most efficient and effective source of fuel is actually carbs... they are more easily transformed into glycogen. The standard rule is that you need to have 1g of carbs per 1kg of body weight per hour in order to not run out of energy and experience the dreaded 'bonk'.

Lollies/sugar is NOT an efficient fuel because it is burnt up too quickly and you need to keep feeding yourself with sugar. Once you start on the sugar you body will only burn sugar becasue it will start lookingfor the most simple easiest fuel to burn. Having said this... IF you do experience a 'bonk' lollies will give you instant energy.

madscot13
05-31-2007, 09:36 PM
The standard rule is that you need to have 1g of carbs per 1kg of body weight per hour in order to not run out of energy and experience the dreaded 'bonk'.



Is this while I am biking then? I have actually switched the contents of my bike bottles from water to Gatorade. My rides have become easier, but I think it is because I am staying hydrated better. Maybe the carbs have something to do with it too?

Keely
05-31-2007, 11:07 PM
Is this while I am biking then? I have actually switched the contents of my bike bottles from water to Gatorade. My rides have become easier, but I think it is because I am staying hydrated better. Maybe the carbs have something to do with it too?


It's probably a combination of both... but yes if you're doing longer rides you probably do need to start eating while riding as well. Everyone's different, so it does depend on how you feel. But when I do 100+km rides, this is what I take:

1 bidon of water
1 bidon of sport drink
at least 2 sport energy bars - Pria (http://www.powerbar.com.au/products.asp) or Maxim (http://www.smoothride.com.au/Text/1116313230457-2301/MAXIM-Energy-Bars) Bars
a banana, if I have any in the fruit bowl


If I don't eat everything, that's OK. If you start getting hungry while riding it's too late to start thinking about food; your body has already depleted it's glycogen stores. You should try to eat before you get hungry. I try to ensure that I eat at least every half hour.

If you find you can't eat solid foor then you could try energy gels... These are a concentrated form of energy and can be easier to digest when your body is under pressure - like during a race or when simply riding hard... Here are a few links to ones that are available in Australia:
Maxim energy gels (http://www.smoothride.com.au/Text/1116315135447-9450/MAXIM-Energy-Gels)
Gu Energy Gels (http://www.southsiderunners.com.au/accpages/gugel.htm)
Endura (http://sportrecovery.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11)

Tuckervill
06-01-2007, 06:55 AM
If I don't eat everything, that's OK. If you start getting hungry while riding it's too late to start thinking about food; your body has already depleted it's glycogen stores. You should try to eat before you get hungry.

I always find this statement (and the similar one about thirst) illogical.

What is the point of the feelings of hunger and thirst if it's too late by the time you feel them? I remain skeptical of these statements.

Karen

Nokomis
06-01-2007, 09:44 AM
I always find this statement (and the similar one about thirst) illogical.

I don't have any science to back it up - but my take is in a normal environment, you're hungry or thirst when your body needs those things. When you are working at a high intensity, it's better to fuel up appropriate ahead of time than to try to make up for it when your body realizes it needs more - because it is harder to then catch up w/ physical requirements.