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jobob
08-08-2004, 01:54 PM
Here's a good summary from Eurosport of the different disciplines being contested in the cycling category :

http://www.eurosport.co.uk/home/pages/V4/L2/S18/E5779/sport_Lng2_Spo18_Evt5779_Sto622523.shtml


Cycling at a glance: A short history

Cycling has been an Olympic mainstay since the dawn of the modern Olympic era in 1896. That first Olympic road race -- also in Athens -- traced a relatively short 87 km in comparison to 2004's distance of 239 km for the men's race.

While men have been racing for Olympic gold for over 100 years, the women were only given their first go at the 1984 games in Los Angeles.

1996 was also a boon time in Olympic cycling history with the addition of the time-trial and mountain-bike disciplines for both men and women.

Rules and regulations

For the road and mountain bike events, the rules couldn't be simpler: mass-start races held on tough roundabout circuit courses and won by whoever crosses the line first.

The comprehension of the track events, however, requires a little extra know-how. Here are the general guidelines for the showcase track cycling events:

Time trials: It's all about strength and stamina -- tactics are of no avail in this discipline. The men race for 1,000 meters, the women for 500 meters, the first to pass the finish line wins and advances to the next round.

Sprint: The athletes have to cover three laps in the sprint event, but only the last 200 meters count. On the first two laps, the two opponents jockey through a series of cat-and-mouse tactics, each trying to force the other to launch the final-lap sprint. The rider in second position at the start of the bell lap is considered to have the upper hand, as he/she can then draft -- saving precious energy -- before exploding in the final sprint for the finish.

Individual pursuit: Two riders race at a time, beginning from opposite points on the track. The goal is to catch the other athlete (hence the "pursuit" event name) or at least record the fastest time over a set distance of four kilometres (for men) and three kilometres (for women).

Team pursuit: The race works just like the individual pursuit, but with teams of four taking place. The finishing time for each team is recorded as soon as the third rider crosses the finish line.

Points race: Distance: 40km for men and 25km for women. Points are awarded every ten laps (5 points for 1st position, 3 points for 2nd, 2 points for 3rd, 1 point for 4th, with points doubled in the final sprint). The rider to score the most points during the race wins.

Madison: Named after New York's Madison Square Garden, where the first race of its kind took place. Similar to the points race, points are awarded every 20th lap. Riders compete in teams of two.

Keirin: Originally from Japan, Keirin made its Olympic debut in Sydney in 2000. Two racers each follow a motorbike for 5.5 laps and then compete head-to-head for a remaining 2.5 laps.

Olympic Sprint: Despite its name, this event didn't actually make the Olympics until Sydney in 2000. Two teams of three riders each compete against each other -- much like in a pursuit race. The first team to cross the finish line after three laps wins.

Cycling at the Olympics, Competition dates

Men's Road Race: August 14

Women's Road Race: August 15

Men's Time-Trial: August 18

Women's Time-Trial: August 18

Women's Mountain Bike: August 27

Men's Mountain Bike: August 28

Men's/women's track events: August 20-25


Defending Olympic champions:

Road Race
Men: Jan Ullrich (GER)
Women: Leontien Van Moorsel (NED)

Time-Trial
Men: Viatcheslav Ekimov (RUS)
Women: Leontien Van Moorsel (NED)

Mountain Bike
Men: Miguel Martinez (FRA)
Women: Paola Pezzo (ITA)

Track
Sprint - Men: Marty Nothstein (USA)
Sprint - Women: Felicia Ballanger (FRA)

Individual Pursuit - Men: Robert Bartko (GER)
Individual Pursuit - Women: Leontien Van Moorsel (NED)

Points Race - Men: Juan Llaneras (ESP)
Points Race - Women: Antonella Bellutti (ITA)

spazzdog
08-08-2004, 02:06 PM
Damn Jobob! You impress me... and I thought I was the research queen. Silly me.

Yes, I will parked in front of the boob tube for the next few weeks, starting with Opening Ceremonies. Im' an addict. I can't help myself.

Biking Chick
08-09-2004, 04:32 AM
Dang ... I am impressed JoBob ... I've written the times down .. now let's hope I can find the piece of paper before closing ceremonies :p

Women's soccer starts on Wednesday (August 11th)

Cindy
Ride Like A Girl!

jobob
08-09-2004, 06:57 AM
You ladies are very kind :o , but all I did was copy & paste the article ! I was glad to find a description of the track events because I had no clue what they were about.

So who shall we be rooting for? :D

I'll start...

For the road race, since I assume the certain loyal deputy yadda yadda yadda will have a fairly, ahem, vocal cheering section, I will be shouting out for the (slightly) lesser-knowns {flinging a 5-pound bag of salt over my shoulder ... um it's the left one, right??}

Go Bobby! (pedalfaster, feel free to join in anytime :D) He's found a great team but his contract goes only to the end of the year so a good result would really help matters - I especially hope he kicks some serious butt in the ITT. He's had some tough breaks over the last few years so it would be super if he could shine here. As far as I can figure his main competition in the time trial will be Ullrich (unless he's already hit the Krispy Kremes :p), Kloeden, Vinokourov (looking very good right now coming off his injury earlier this season), Cancellara, and, if he's back on form, Tyler - who evidently pulled out of the Classica San Sebastian because his back wasn't fully recovered yet so he's a big question mark.

I'll also be rooting for semi-local boy Levi Leipheimer, his contract with Rabobank also ends this year so I hope he can secure a good contract either staying w. Rabobank or moving on to greener pastures. There's been some talk about him going back to postal/discovery but it's all just talk. Since he's only competing in the road race, presumably all the guys will be working for one leader (George or Tyler?) but Levi had a habbit of going out on breakouts, so maybe he'll have one that actually sticks...?

For the women, I'll be rooting for Dede Barry, who earned the distinction of cycling goddess for life in my book for winning a world cup race a couple of years ago on a lugged steel bike custom made by her father-in-law, how cool is that (http://www.bikespecialties.com/mariposa-dedebarry.html) ? She also took the time to finish her degree before completely devoting herself to racing (another example of a women racer who puts a high priority on education, which I admire).

I'll also be watching out for Nicole Cooke, the phenomenal young British cyclist. She had knee surgery earlier in the year and came back to win the Giro d'Italia Femminile.

On the other end of the spectrum, there's the beyond-phenomenal Jeannie Longo-Ciprelli who won the French road championship this year and will be competing at her 6th Olympics... at the age of 45.

IronHorse213
08-09-2004, 08:56 AM
Wow, thanks Jobob! I was just beginning to think "Olympics" and maybe I should look for cycling events dates and times - you did my research for me!

I used to be a real Olypmic-adict, but have cooled on them the past few years. I am looking forward to the cycling events this year - and all your remarks!

later !

jobob
08-09-2004, 03:55 PM
The women's road race will be shown live in the US on the USA network on Sunday morning - 5 am on the Pacific coast. Amazing!! The TiVo has been programmed :cool:

As for the men's road race, whatever they deign to show of it will be on NBC on Saturday evening, 8 pm in my neck of the woods.

Oh, apparently you folks in Oz will get the men's road race live on the SBS network on Saturday evening your time.

- Jo, warming up the couch :cool:

spazzdog
08-10-2004, 04:47 AM
Hey grrls!

Here's a link for the Olympic TV coverage (USA/maybe Canada only, sorry to those in other places):

http://www.nbcolympics.com/tvlistings/5022016/detail.html

Take Jobobs fine list, pick the date and scroll through to find the telecast time and channel.

Plus you can see what time any other events you might be interested in are happening.

spazz (setting up my trainer in a corner with clear line to TV: surely you don't think I'm going outside when there is finally 24 hr Olympic coverage!)
:D

spazzdog
08-11-2004, 06:59 AM
USA Women vs Greece.
MSNBC is televising the game live RIGHT NOW (10:50 am ET).

If you have access, tune in!

ausgirl
08-13-2004, 12:31 AM
Jobob: I liked what you wrote - its nice to have all the facts like that in the one place.

I just have to add a couple of facts about cycling. The people you listed may be the Olympic champions, but there are some new stars on the scene, so they better watch out - especially Leontien van Moorsel who will probably get beaten by Katie Mactier (Aus) and/or Sarah Ulmer (NZ) in the IP.

Keep an out for the Aus men's team time trial who have been unbeatable in recent years as well as our sprinters who want gold.

In the road races - well Oenone Wood is a good chance as the current World Cup (women's) leader and only a fool would discount a men's road team that includes Robbie McEwen, Stuart O'Grady & Michael Rogers.

And Anna Meares is a favourite for gold in the women's sprint and the 500m TT (she is world champ in that)!!!

PS - I know the stuff i wrote is biased, but it is true and anyway, someone has to show a bit of support for my country. :D

jobob
08-13-2004, 04:49 AM
Thanks, ausgirl, I didn't want to steal all the thunder and I thought surely someone would want to chime in on the Aussies ;)

But since you brought it up :D, it looks like the AU men's team is very very strong (LOL, no fool I!) and Stuart O'Grady in particular is on most everyone's list of the most likely winners. And Rogers is a definite contender for the ITT, particularly now that he's the world champ - might be a bit of extra motivation from that !

But if I were a betting woman I'd say Vino for the road race w. Ullrich & O'Grady medaling, and Ullrich for the ITT. And Nicole Cooke for the womens RR. But I am very often wrong which is why I never put my money on the line, just my ego :p

Anyone else want to venture a comment or go out on a limb with a prediction?

Hey AG - call me, babe ! (http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/olympics04/index.php?id=usa_road/oly2004-cycling-hincapie-53) :cool:

spazzdog
08-13-2004, 06:47 AM
Just so's y'all know...

On the NBC Olympic TV scheduling page there's a nifty little "bonus" whereby you can download the TV listings of events to your PC/Palm calendar. It's called Infuser.

I gave it a shot... and thank goodness I have a virus shield and firewall working. Within 5 minutes of download, I got an alert that the program Infuser was trying to access my address book.

Nipped that in the butt and promptly de-installed. Then sent a nasty-gram to both customer service and sales at Infuser.

And yes, I did read all the small print before pressing Agree. None of which mentioned covert diving into my address book.

spazz

bikeforlife
08-13-2004, 08:10 AM
WOW Jobob thanks for the info i was going to look all that up. you did it for me thanks again

Roadrunner
08-13-2004, 08:55 AM
Thanks for the info Jobob.
Isee the French team have annouced Thomas Voeckler as part of their team. I really reckon he's one to be watched in the future. Did I hear right that George Hincappie was also in the Olympics?



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics_2004/cycling/3907965.stm

MightyMitre
08-13-2004, 02:21 PM
Just watched the Opening ceremony on TV. Looking forward to the games startings - Britains Nicole Cooke, who won the womens Tour of Italy is in with a very good chance.

Can't believe Jeanie Longo is still racing - she's old enough to be Nicole's mother!(45)
Apparently she's been at every Olympics since 1984. She's incredible to still be competetive enough to ride against 20 year olds.! Hats off to her:)

massbikebabe
08-13-2004, 07:35 PM
Jeanne is a stud!

karen
still learning teenspeak

ausgirl
08-15-2004, 03:20 PM
Woohoo!!! Sara Carrigan did it and won the women's road race for Australia!! It was fantastic, although the day before i had heard some goss from a very reliable source that our girls were on fire and ready to race - looks like they were right.

jobob
08-15-2004, 03:24 PM
'twas brilliant ! :D

pedalfaster
08-15-2004, 06:18 PM
How 'bout that crash (http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/olympics04/index.php?id=women_rr/OLY21) ???

I was rooting for Joane Somarriba...I think I must be some kinda jinx

:p

Congrats to the Aussies! Makes up for the disappointment in the men's race, eh?

jobob
08-15-2004, 08:02 PM
That crash was such a bummer ! :( Does anyone know Van Moorsel's condition, and if she'll be able to compete in the remainder of her events?

ausgirl
08-15-2004, 08:04 PM
I heard that she's in doubt for the time trial - it's supposed to be a bit of a wait and see thing.

MightyMitre
08-16-2004, 04:54 AM
Hi Ausgirl - you must be stoked! Am I right in thinking Sara C. is fellow Queenslander.

I was very disappointed Nicole Cooke didn't win, and even more so that she didn't even make the podium but she's young - she'll have another chance.

Hats off to the Aussies though!:p

ausgirl
08-16-2004, 05:20 PM
Hi MightMitre!

You're right, I am stoked and Sara Carrigan is a Queenslander. I think she's from the Gold Coast so her club might have been the Cats (not sure though). I heard Nicole Cooke had a rough season though, injuries and so probably didn't have a great lead up to the Olympics. Am i right? She has got plenty of time ahead of her - she's young.

Bring on the track racing!!!

jobob
08-16-2004, 06:38 PM
Hold on, we still have the time trials on Wednesday - then we can bring on the track racing :D

And it looks like Leontien van Moorsel will compete in the time trial after all - what a gutsy dame :cool:

MightyMitre
08-17-2004, 01:44 AM
I met Leontien at the Gent 6 Day track competition in Belgium last year and not only is she a gutsy dame but she's very glamourous too! She always has painted nails and make up when she races - not for me, I hardly wear make up at the best of times but I think she likes to show that even though she's a professional athelete she's still a woman.

Yes - Nicole Cooke injured her knee last year and hardly raced at all this year, hence she couldn't defend her world cup jersey. But then her come-back race was the British National Championships which she promptly rompted! :D

Bring on the track racing....

jobob
08-18-2004, 07:29 AM
Woohoo !!!


The gutsy (and glamourous!) Leontien Zijlaard-van Moorsel pulls it off, followed by Jo's bike goddess Dede Demet-Barry.

Tyler shows what he can accomplish when he manages to stay on the freakin' bike :D, Ekimov shows what an uber-stud he is, and, and, and, ....I am rendered speechless!

- Jo, giddy as a little schoolgirl

MightyMitre
08-18-2004, 12:27 PM
Yes - hats off to Leontien. What a superb ride!!! And nice one Tyler. He deserves its. :)


But what's going on with Ullrich?? How come he was so low down the placing? Is he ill or has he just lost the will...? :confused:

jobob
08-18-2004, 02:34 PM
There was some mention during the US broadcast of the men's road race that Ullrich was in an accident the week before; I didn't catch any details though.

ausgirl
08-18-2004, 04:24 PM
Well, congrats to both Leontien and Tyler! They aren't who I wanted to win, but they are both good riders who worked hard and deserved it. I just hope that Leontien gets beaten in the IP by Sarah Ulmer and/or Katie Mactier.

On another track - did anyone watch the men's 4x200m f/s relay. Yes, Australia lost, but did you see Michael Klim? I swear, you could not find an athlete with a better body at these games! If i can find a pic i'll attach it to this site.

Veronica
08-18-2004, 04:51 PM
I wouldn't call getting a silver "losing". Although I'm sure to the swimmers it was. That was a very close race and really could have gone either way. Italy finished third a full 4 seconds behind. That's a lot!

V.

ausgirl
08-18-2004, 04:58 PM
yeah, but that's OUR event, a silver is a loss when you're the defending champions. everyone reckons hackett was the wrong choice for the 1st swimmer - he started too slow, but what do you expect from a 1500m specialist. Hackett's just not the best choice for anything less than 400m. Still, Klim has sworn he will come back in 2008 to get revenge and so the saga of rivalry between Aussies and Yanks in the relays will continue...

snapdragen
08-18-2004, 05:17 PM
I kinda figured you were dancin' about now! Tyler & Bobby, and Eki too!



Originally posted by jobob
Woohoo !!!

Adventure Girl
08-18-2004, 06:08 PM
Some day I'd like to see Jo doing the happy dance. I bet it looks something like this:
http://www.chem.ualberta.ca/~ngee/Happy.gif

jobob
08-18-2004, 07:59 PM
LOL!
Happy Dance to the Linus & Lucy theme.

... yes indeedy, Life is Good!


http://209.177.135.180/gallery/albums/album27/AmericanspodOG804_116.jpg

http://209.177.135.180/gallery/albums/album27/BarrywpodOG804_757.jpg

I can't find link-able photos of the RR podiums so if anyone would care to oblige...?

Oh, and veering back momentarily to the subject of Aussie swimmers, I think Ian Thorpe's smile is absolutely dazzing.

Bring on the track racing :cool:

Adventure Girl
08-18-2004, 11:47 PM
Tyler carried Tugboat's dog tag during the TT. How sweet is that? :( sniff, sniff....

MightyMitre
08-21-2004, 01:07 AM
Whoooooo!!!!! just watch me do Jo's happy dance!. :p

Chris Hoy just got the gold for the UK in the track kilo.

What an incredible ride!. The German guy ( who came third) got a new Olympic record, followed by the French guy who got another Olympic record and rode like a manic. No one thought Chris could do it but he was last off and when I saw his face as he sat on his bike waiting to go... It said - "I'm the Daddy - Just watch this...!" Such confidence. He looked like a winner even before he'd turned a pedal. :cool:

Just goes to show how mental attitude plays such a big role.

jobob
08-21-2004, 05:29 AM
Thanks, MM, I haven't had a chance to watch Olys the last couple of days, I was wondering what I was missing.
And Bravo to the UK! :)

Just found this article:

http://www.velonews.com/race/trk/articles/6812.0.html

Wow, the Aussies are doing might well too!

ausgirl
08-22-2004, 04:32 PM
Anna, Anna, Anna!!!

Anna Meares is just racing so brilliantly! Gold & WR in the 500m TT and qualified fastest in the sprints.

The Aussie team has also qualified fastest & set a world record on their way in the men's team pursuit. This is fantastic! The boys are down to 3min56sec, and they think 3min55sec is possible, so watch the final for another probable WR!

Congrats to Chris Hoy of England! It's a bloody shame that he had to beat Shane Kelly, but Chris raced well and deserved the gold. PS - to MightyMitre, Shane Kelly got the first Olympic Record in the kilo that night, then it was followed by the German and so on.

MightyMitre
08-23-2004, 02:52 AM
Hi Ausgirl - did you see the 2 Brad's battle it out? What a fantastic race. I was screaming at the TV. ( Quick crow that Wiggins won... hee-hee. ;) )

I know the Brad's are good friends off the track and it was really nice to see how they were patting each other on the back ect afterwards. They're both incredible riders.

As for the mens team persuit today.... OMG - this is going to totally amazing .

Best of luck to the Aussies and may the best team win.:p :D

ausgirl
08-23-2004, 04:32 PM
Men's team pursuit...the best team DID win!!! Well, they haven't been beaten in the event in the last few years and have scored 4 world records in 3 years!

That was great watching the two Brads! Yeah, I did here that they are friends. Apparently Wiggins was on FDJ with McGee last year. Now both of the Brads have Olympic gold medals on the track as well as being TDF riders. This might sound a bit petty, but I wonder if the great Lance Armstrong would also be capable of Olympic gold on the track - I have my doubts...well, he doesn't exactly do much sprinting:D

jobob
08-24-2004, 07:56 PM
Good article on the Aussie team pusuit win:

http://www.velonews.com/race/trk/articles/6833.0.html

Lots of other good articles & fotos at www.velonews.com


Off-topic and snarky:
I cannot watch more than 5 minutes of gymnastics before Al Trautwig's bombastic inanitude gives me a raging headache :p :p :p

MightyMitre
08-25-2004, 01:09 AM
Congrats to the Aussies - what a great race. Now both the Brads have gold medals to wave at each other.:D

aussievic
08-25-2004, 05:53 AM
Hi All

You may remember me from my very occasional posts where I mentioned I was going to the Olympics whilst on my travels.

First of all, I have to say - what a fantastic experience. As soon as we get back to Australia we are going to start saving so that we can go to Beijing.

Secondly, we had many great experiences, but my best were -

1. Seeing Australia win two gold medals on the last night of the swimming - Grant Hackett in the 1500m and our 4 x 100m medley women's team.

2. Seeing Tyler win his gold in the Time Trial and getting to meet him afterwards, as well as meeting Bobby and getting both his and Tyler's autographs on the final time listing. He was such a nice guy and we were so happy for him.

See here (http://www.bigtrip.blogspot.com/gallery/gallery33.html)

See the look on my husband's face to see the happiest boy in town after meeting Tyler!

3. Seeing the Oz Pursuit team break the world record in the first round. (Photos of this coming soon).

4. Seeing Katie push Sarah all the way for her gold in the women's pursuit.

We also have some photos of Nicole and Leontien from the Time Trial and Michael Rogers, Ullrich, Ekimov, Bobby and Tyler during the time trial.

There is also some other pics from various events here (http://www.bigtrip.blogspot.com/gallery/gallery32.html) including the road race with Bettini about to win. We missed the women's road race unfortunately :(

We've also got a couple of reports on the front page here (http://www.bigtrip.blogspot.com) if you're interested.

Enjoy - we certainly did!

Victoria

P.S. We're now in Cairo adjusting to Egypt and drinking lots of tea. Thinking about cycling next week unless it gets a bit hotter.

aussievic
08-25-2004, 06:01 AM
Whilst at the airport putting our bikes in our boxes before our flight, two members of the Swiss team came along and we had a chat. We were stuffing our's into cardboard boxes and their bikes were all in the beautiful pro cases.

I only just realised that one of the girls was Karin Thuerig who won the bronze in the time trial. I asked if she'd had a good games and was happy and she said yes. I knew I should've got a photo, but we were under pressure from the check-in people to get our bikes sorted! Oh well, she said she's going to try for Beijing, so hopefully I'll see her there! :o

Adventure Girl
08-25-2004, 06:14 AM
aussievic

Great pictures! Thanks for sharing. Sounds like it was a great adventure!:D

jobob
08-25-2004, 07:28 AM
WOW !

what AG said :D