Dam Corners and Valleys road ride - Sat, May 19

[SadieKate]

Deja vu all over again and back by popular vote
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Like last year, we'll ride part of the Davis Double route on the same day just because. Maybe there will be a maillotpois and hubby sighting. In keeping with tradition, this ride will be a relaxed ramble through the countryside and NO DROP.

Starting in Winters, we’ll climb northwest toward Lake Berryessa, up the canyon alongside Putah Creek over the Monticello Dam and Cardiac Hill to the store at Moskowite Corner. From there, one more little bump up and then we fly down Wooden Valley (the Jo Zone) to Mankas Corners and on to Fairfield where we'll take a food break at Coffee World (with excellent peach smoothies). We’ll turn north, climb a few short rollers and then have a couple options:

-- One group can have a nice smooth ride all the way north back to Lake Solano Park via Pleasants Valley Rd.
-- Those who want more miles and hills can head east a few miles so they climb Gibson Canyon Road and up the rolling east side of Cantelow Hill. This group will come back over the ridge rejoining everyone midway through that nice smooth ride all the way north back to Lake Solano Park.

From Lake Solano, we'll spin around Lake Solano back to Winters.

Start: the town of Winters (parking lot at Railroad and Main across from the Putah Creek Cafe and next to Steady Eddy's Coffee House)
When: TBD, but it has to be really early to beat the boat traffic
Length: 62-67 (the shorter route is the reverse of the Monticello Century but starting in Winters)
Climbing: shorter ride 2,780 / longer ride 3,460 ft
Avg speed over the entire ride (including warm-ups): 14-15 mph

To get to Winters: Interstate 505 goes north right into Winters from I-80 or your can take Russell Blvd east out of Davis. http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed...=10&qty=9&ds=n

Food after - Pizza Factory or the Putah Creek Cafe or Steady Eddy's depending on what is open

[jobob]

Sounds excellent! Unless family matters come up, the Bobs will be there.

[snapdragen]

Every time you post this ride, I see Damn Corners, and wonder why SK is cussing at the ride route...:rolleyes:

[aka_kim]

I'm in!

[maillotpois]

I hope I actually see you this year! I think we'll be starting DD relatively early to try to beat the heat (not likely!). We should be at the dam about 2 1/2 hours after we start (The dam's about our 40 mile point, isn't it? We've had this conversation before, haven't we? :rolleyes: )

[SadieKate]

Deja vu again. Based on the 2005 route (which means no Cobb Mtn),

-- The town of Winters (our starting pt) is mile 35.6
-- The dam is at mile 45.5.
-- Moskowite Corner is at mile 56.0. This is not a stop for the Dble riders but will be our group's re-fuel pt and the point at which we continue west and you turn north.

What time are you thinking of starting? Earlier than last year?

[maillotpois]

I started a response at the office this morning and then got absoutely buried in work. So I will try again...

Well, the first part of the ride is the same with or without Cobb (I am assuming Cobb is in this year still, though). I don't remember what time we started last year, probably 6:30. If the forecast looks anything like last Saturday (which Lee Mitchell was swearing it would be as he was taping a reaplcement rear light to my bike at 9 pm on Saturday) then I would like to start as early as possible. I am so OVER heat! :rolleyes: (I know you Wildflower survivors can relate...)

So anyway that probably puts us there too early for you guys as I believe it did last year. :( I just really like starting these doubles as early as possible to finish in light and also (now) for heat avoidance.

[jobob]

I can so do without Cobb, thankyee kindly. :rolleyes:

Altho Lee says that there was a sandwich shop in Middleofnowheretown where he had the best steak sammich ever.

Lee Mitchell was doing SAG on DMD? Wow that guy sure gets around!

[maillotpois]

Lee's tireless. I'll get my report out eventually, but he is seriously my favorite ever person after the 400k and DMD. At DMD (on Sierra), I asked him if I was th elast person and he was all chipper saying oh no "There are people scattered all up and down the mountain (Hamilton)." I'm not entirely sure he wasn't lying to me, but I love him anyway.

And he looks like a skinny Santa.

[SadieKate]

How does Lee ride without tires? :confused:

Posted by me on last year's thread:

Got up at 4:15 to get the gang moving. Delivered robo and V to the Davis Double about 5:20 where they met up with MP and Mr. MP

I also discovered that usn's doing the smarter route started in Winters at 7 am. We saw HotRod going up to the Dam (and the official AV greeting was born), we didn't see MP. I don't remember if we saw V. Both of them could have been stopped at the Dam rest stop.

[maillotpois]

You're so funny! (And it's so early that I looked at that and went "tires? whaaa?")

So I guess we started at 5:30 or 6 then. That sounds reasonable. These things are often not entirely up to me....

[jobob]

We saw HotRod going up to the Dam (and the official AV greeting was born). Oh, that's right! We must commemorate the occasion in a suitably genteel fashion.

[Trekhawk]

Im a maybe. Its my youngest boys birthday on Sunday and Im still not sorted on which day of the weekend we are doing the party.
Oooh this is just after my bike fit session though so it would be good to give the bike a whirl and see how it feels.:)

[jobob]

I hope you can make it, Leslie !

[SadieKate]

Cool. We're getting a nice little group.

[snapdragen]

Oh, that's right! We must commemorate the occasion in a suitably genteel fashion.

I maybe a tree planting would be in order....

[tprevost]

okay... still trying to figure out a way to tag along on this ride (even though its gonna KILL me!)....

What is everyone's best guess on how long we'll be riding and when we might be done w/dinner etc. (a realistic guess please :p ).... just trying to coordinate w/other stuff I wanted to do over that weekend :rolleyes:

[jobob]

Gee, we have us a Social Butterfly ! :D

Well, if we start at 7 am, and figure maybe about 5 hours riding time, perhaps 6 - 7 hours total (depending how much dawdlin' we do at Moscowite and over our peach smoothies at Coffee World) that would get us back into Winters around 1 to 2.

Not sure what time Steady Eddy's closes this time of year, I'd be up for going there afterwards if it's still open, but the pizza place is a good standby.

Doesn't the Putah Creek Cafe open fairly late afternoon, or am I confusing it with someplace else?


Oh and Trac', it won't kill you, I promise ! I had a bit of an achey back last time we did this ride, and there was a very easy bailout option to avoid Cantelow.

[tprevost]

Gee, we have us a Social Butterfly ! :D

Well, if we start at 7 am, and figure maybe about 5 hours riding time, perhaps 6 - 7 hours total (depending how much dawdlin' we do at Moscowite and over our peach smoothies at Coffee World) that would get us back into Winters around 1 to 2.

Not sure what time Steady Eddy's closes this time of year, I'd be up for going there afterwards if it's still open, but the pizza place is a good standby.

Doesn't the Putah Creek Cafe open fairly late afternoon, or am I confusing it with someplace else?


Oh and Trac', it won't kill you, I promise ! I had a bit of an achey back last time we did this ride, and there was a very easy bailout option to avoid Cantelow.

7 huh? UGH!!!!! :p We'll probably go if we're gonna be done that early... 'course that means we have to leave at 4 or before :eek: I'll go find the last report and see which bike I should bring :cool:

[jobob]

7 huh? UGH!!!!! :p We'll probably go if we're gonna be done that early... 'course that means we have to leave at 4 or before :eek: I'll go find the last report and see which bike I should bring :cool: I don't think 7 has been settled on, that was just the time we started last year. Perhaps Madame Organizer will want to start later this year since we have some folks coming from the hills over yonder ?

[jobob]

But Tracy, considering the ride you have planned for Memorial Day, this one should be a piece of cake.

:D

[SadieKate]

We need to be climbing Cantelow early due to the heat and the boat traffic. Best to be going up with the Dble Century folks. 7 would be ideal for this.

Can yawl manage? We really want you along!

SK

[tprevost]

But Tracy, considering the ride you have planned for Memorial Day, this one should be a piece of cake.

:D

I said I'd do that ride fully knowing that I can cut a big chunk of climbing out by going down skyline... it is a ride WAY over my head... :p

[tprevost]

We need to be climbing Cantelow early due to the heat and the boat traffic. Best to be going up with the Dble Century folks. 7 would be ideal for this.

Can yawl manage? We really want you along!

SK

Yup, we'll be there.... :D

[tprevost]

SK... can I get an address or directions to the starting point... I know its in Winters but I've never been there before :p hee hee hee!!!! I'm so excited to get to do this ride!!!!!

[jobob]

Excellent ! :cool:

[SadieKate]

Kewl.

Try this map for the Purah Creek Cafe or google directions for 1 Main Street, Winters, CA. The parking lot is directly across the street to the east. Look for Steady Eddy's Cafe on the far side of the parking lot (and Jo inside).

http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl&q=

[tprevost]

Kewl.

Try this map for the Purah Creek Cafe or google directions for 1 Main Street, Winters, CA. The parking lot is directly across the street to the east. Look for Steady Eddy's Cafe on the far side of the parking lot (and Jo inside).

http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wl&q=

Thankyaverymuch! :p Looking forward to it!!!!

[jobob]

Ms. Wizeguy up there meant Putah Creek Cafe. :p

And yes, I'll be with Lee in Steady Eddy's, with Trekhawk no doubt (since we're all compulsively early types)

[SadieKate]

Hey! I'm not on the road yet! I can hear you. :rolleyes:

Good thing I didn't just leave of the h.

[jobob]

ees OK, you're allowed the occasional typo

[cindysue]

I've put this on my calendar and looking forward to it!

[SadieKate]

ees OK, you're allowed the occasional typoWow, I even had another typo in my response. Slap me with a wet noodle.

Very cool, Ms Cindy! Glad you can join us. :) :) :)

[jobob]

I'd sooner slap you with a don-don noodle.
No, second that, I'd rather eat a don-don noodle. nevermind.

[tprevost]

looks like I might be joining you on my own so ya'll will wait for me... right???? :p

[SadieKate]

But, of course! Jobob and I are already planning our peach smoothies in Fairfield.

Next door neighbor's parents live in Twain Harte. He said that if there is no traffic it's about 2.5 hours to Davis. When you map out your drive, the Davis to Winters portion should go north on 113 (from I-80) to Cowell and then west to Winters. Cowell will take you straight into downtown Winters and you'll hang a left on Railroad.

[tprevost]

But, of course! Jobob and I are already planning our peach smoothies in Fairfield.

Next door neighbor's parents live in Twain Harte. He said that if there is no traffic it's about 2.5 hours to Davis. When you map out your drive, the Davis to Winters portion should go north on 113 (from I-80) to Cowell and then west to Winters. Cowell will take you straight into downtown Winters and you'll hang a left on Railroad.

Very cool! My mapquest said 2 hours 50 minutes, but it had me going on hwy 49 :eek: so what you said makes sense :p

I'll re-map it and make sure it shows the directions you've got there!

:p what a goober I am, I'm so excited!!!

[jobob]

It'll be great to see you, Tracy! :cool:

[Trekhawk]

Sounds like it will be fun. I think Jobob sent some of her germs over the internet to me though and today I feel blahhhhh. I hope Im better by next weekend.
Oh and I haven't managed to get in any longer rides since Party Pardee so I hope everyone is not feeling super speedy or I might be miles behind.:o

[SadieKate]

Pah-tee!!!! You have to come because I now have both sizes of the Detours High Tail bags for us to analyze, compare, critique, etc., etc.. I still haven't decided which size is better. Probably the low profile one but on the other hand . . . . :)

I've been fighting a sore soft palate since last night. Let's all glare at jobob.

[tprevost]

Sounds like it will be fun. I think Jobob sent some of her germs over the internet to me though and today I feel blahhhhh. I hope Im better by next weekend.
Oh and I haven't managed to get in any longer rides since Party Pardee so I hope everyone is not feeling super speedy or I might be miles behind.:o

Oooh no.... you will be feeling fabulous by then :p !!!! I haven't done any long rides except Wildflower so I'm right with you and my pace isn't fast... you'll be taking naps waiting for me to catch up!!! ;)

[jobob]

now WAITAMINUTE

I shall not be held responsible for whatever random germs pass your way.:p

[Trekhawk]

Pah-tee!!!! You have to come because I now have both sizes of the Detours High Tail bags for us to analyze, compare, critique, etc., etc.. I still haven't decided which size is better. Probably the low profile one but on the other hand . . . . :)

I've been fighting a sore soft palate since last night. Let's all glare at jobob.

Oh fab!! Riding, eating and checking out cycling gear what more could a girl want. Looking forward to checking out those High Tails.

Trac - Im pleased I won't be the only sloth.:D

Jo - I have to blame someone.;) Do you think we will find a milkshake on this ride??

[tprevost]

Oh fab!! Riding, eating and checking out cycling gear what more could a girl want. Looking forward to checking out those High Tails.

Trac - Im pleased I won't be the only sloth.:D

Jo - I have to blame someone.;) Do you think we will find a milkshake on this ride??

if there are no milkshakes on the route, I will personally go with you to track one down afterwards!!! :p Mmmmmm.... chocolate shake... yummy!!!

and no Leslie, you will not be the only sloth! This will be my longest ride since January (most of the other 10 being around 25 miles) I expect I'll be tired at the end! But I just can't resist the opportunity to tag along!!!

[Trekhawk]

if there are no milkshakes on the route, I will personally go with you to track one down afterwards!!! :p Mmmmmm.... chocolate shake... yummy!!!

and no Leslie, you will not be the only sloth! This will be my longest ride since January (most of the other 10 being around 25 miles) I expect I'll be tired at the end! But I just can't resist the opportunity to tag along!!!

Yipee pain and whining are always better with company.:D

[SadieKate]

Whew. I just called Coffee World in Fairfield and in addition to peach smoothies they make milk shakes. The world can begin spinning again.

[jobob]

Oh, good. I tried to find out by a web search but I wasn't getting anywhere.

milkshakes .... yuuummm. vanilla, please. :cool:

[jobob]

Gosh, this is going to be fun ! :)

(I sure hope I can make it ...)

[snapdragen]

I'm jealous.:rolleyes: :D

[tprevost]

Whew. I just called Coffee World in Fairfield and in addition to peach smoothies they make milk shakes. The world can begin spinning again.

YEAH!!!!! :p thank you!!! :D

[Trekhawk]

Whew. I just called Coffee World in Fairfield and in addition to peach smoothies they make milk shakes. The world can begin spinning again.

SK - I know I have said it about a million times but YOU ARE A GEM. :D
YAY MILKSHAKES !!!!!

[SadieKate]

Ah, shucks. :o

I ran through the list of Dam riders with Bubba tonight. He's happy boy about the ride.

[SadieKate]

Bump. Everybody still game?

[tprevost]

Bump. Everybody still game?

I'm still in :p a little nervous, but still riding anyway ;)

[jobob]

The Bobs are in, after all !

We won't be leaving town until the middle of next week, and we'll be back the following Sunday, so LRRH is still a go as well.

[SadieKate]

Wunderbar.:)

[Trekhawk]

The Bobs are in, after all !

We won't be leaving town until the middle of next week, and we'll be back the following Sunday, so LRRH is still a go as well.

Yay!!!!
I will be there.:)

See you all bright and early Saturday.

[SadieKate]

Bubba and SK
The Bobs
aka_kim
tprevost and spousal unit
TrekHawk
Cindysue
maybe roborider

[jobob]

See you all bright and early Saturday. We'll save you a seat at Steady Eddy's :)

[tprevost]

Bubba and SK
The Bobs
aka_kim
tprevost and spousal unit
TrekHawk
Cindysue
maybe roborider

no spousal unit this time... he's moving this weekend :o

[SadieKate]

Making him do the work while you run and play?

The New List
Bubba and SK
The Bobs
aka_kim
tprevost
TrekHawk
Cindysue
maybe roborider

[tprevost]

Making him do the work while you run and play?

The New List
Bubba and SK
The Bobs
aka_kim
tprevost
TrekHawk
Cindysue
maybe roborider

nah.... making him move up near me :p ... not seeing him for weeks at a time is just plain yucky! ;)

[aka_kim]

I'm still planning to be there. This Saturday, 7 am (ack!), Winters.

[cindysue]

7am. Hmmm. See you there :)

[tprevost]

you guys are gonna kill me! I'm out.... gonna have to run down to OC w/my truck as bf's truck isn't big enough to pull the trailer (he's moving) :eek: At least I'll get to ride Saturday while he loads it :D

[SadieKate]

What? How are you gonna ride if we've killed you?

[tprevost]

What? How are you gonna ride if we've killed you?

good point! :p we just realized his truck won't pull the trailer size he needs.... DUHHHHHHHH!!!!! So I'll spend 16 hours driving this weekend.... and squeezing in a 50 miler on Saturday :p

[Trekhawk]

you guys are gonna kill me! I'm out.... gonna have to run down to OC w/my truck as bf's truck isn't big enough to pull the trailer (he's moving) :eek: At least I'll get to ride Saturday while he loads it :D

Oh no what a bummer. I was looking forward to meeting you and catching up on all the gossip.:D

Good luck with the move.

[jobob]

traaaaaaaaac .... :(

Well, see you at Healdsburg or for margaritas the evening before

[tprevost]

traaaaaaaaac .... :(

Well, see you at Healdsburg or for margaritas the evening before

one way or the other we'll see ya! Hopefully before then too ;)

[cindysue]

not feeling well!

Been in bed all day. Just now eating something (hopefully it stays down!).

I should hopefully feel better tomorrow but I'm still in King City and not quite well enough to drive to the Bay Area tonight. Which means I'd have to leave here by 3:30 in the morning to get there before 7am.

I was REALLY looking forward to it! I'll keep an eye on the forum for future TE rides and hopefully I'll see some of you on a lunachix ride (e.g. (http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=15497))

[SadieKate]

Ack, and another bites the dust.

Get well soon!

[jobob]

Cindyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :(

I'm going to try to make your Mt. Hamilton ride on Sunday. I hope you feel better !

[cindysue]

Cindyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :(

I'm going to try to make your Mt. Hamilton ride on Sunday. I hope you feel better !

Great! I should definitely feel better by Sunday and may even try to get in a short flat ride tomorrow. I'll be thinking of you all!!!

[SadieKate]

The New New List
Bubba and SK
The Bobs
aka_kim
TrekHawk

[maillotpois]

All right people. I want a report on the Ring of Fire ride!

I was still a bit dazed and confuzed when I saw SK at the finish of the DC so I didn't really get much detail out of her. But from snooping in her journal I hear that some of you are trying out for the CDF's Cycling Fire Fighting squad....

Details!! I want details!

And yes, I did the Davis double, but there was huge confusion since the course was changed while we were on the route - no one knew what was going on. The bike club did a great job of setting up SAGs out of order, but we had a bit of down time stopped at the end of some road trying to figure out where we were going - there was no way for them to communicate the changes to everyone and a whole groupd of us went one way, turned around, went the other way, turned around. And the route was quite a bit harder, and less pretty. We had a LOT more traffic.

And the only land speed records set were for slowest ever Davis double by the Pois family. Mr. P gets the freakishly strong robot award. And I get the sucky slow rider award. Oh well. At least I didn't crash and separate my collar bone like my friend Mike. He lent me his light at lunch since he wouldn't be needing it and that ensured that we did indeed finish before dark, which was good.

Yesterday was a good lesson in adaptation, I think.

[yellow]

All right people. I want a report on the Ring of Fire ride!

:confused: Yeah, y'all got some story tellin' to do.

MP, you also need to explain the "strong robot award". Slow and sucky you will never be, so just stop that right this instant, missy.

I feel so out of the loop. :(

[maillotpois]

"Strong robot."

My husband complains that he doesn't like doing double centuries, and he'd rather ride short (100 or less) and fast. Problem is, then he goes to do a double and he rides long and fast. All freaking day. I just don't get it. I am really impressed at how well he does - and it pushes me to stay with him. And I just can't sit on the wheel all day either, I have to take my pulls even if I don't feel great. But he gets on the front, and we're going the same speed at mile 180 that we were at mile 50.

We actually had a negative split on the ride - the climb of Cobb was in the first half. (We got the bonus double Resurrection climbs because of the course change. Lucky us. :rolleyes: ) And even though he left me on the long climbs to go ahead, my ride time was only 1/2 hour more than his.

Wicked bad hot foot on Resurrection. Last 2 doubles I have been plagued by this. I got to the rest stop and gave Mike my shoe to have the cleat moved back, which helped a bit.

[Veronica]

Sounds like it's time for some new shoes.

That's what solved it for me anyway. :)

V.

[maillotpois]

I have new shoes. :rolleyes: That may be the problem - but I think it was the cleat moving I did after my bike fit. I will try the old positioning (farther back) on our super long team ride and see how it goes. if it doesn't work, it's back to the old shoes for the Death Ride.

[aka_kim]

More like "Wall o' Flames". Unfortunately our Designated Photographer did not do her job, and we have no proof of the surreal landscape we rode through, thus you'll have to believe everything we say. It was touch and go, flames licking at our wheels. WrenchBoy's handlebar tape starting to melt. Singed clothing.

Or not. :D

[SadieKate]

Lessee.

We rode to the mouth of the Canyon at Lake Solano where the road was closed due to a fire. We heard something about the Davis Double and "backward." So we decided to ride our loop back wards up to Moskowite (yellow, same loop and direction we rode on the Foxy Fall day) and make the decision there. If the road was open, we'd continue and if the road was closed, we'd go back down to Fairfield and take the train home.

We got to the intersection of 121/128 (just above the Wooden Valley School rest stop) and Lee was looking like he was going to gack on the spot. Asthma wheezing and rasping you could hear from 50 ft away. Kim and Bill had already headed for Mosokowite so we sent Jobob after them to take their chances and I hauled Trek and Lee back to Fairfield. I deposited them at Coffee World where having had milkshakes on the morning stop there, they decided to lollygag in the shade with Italian Sodas while I rode a 25 mile time trial back to Winters to get the car (cause I decided I wanted to see if I could beat Bill, Jo and Kim on their route).

Meanwhile, Bill, Jo and Kim decided to ride on. They'll have to give you the details but there was no CHP officer at the road block up top and the CalTrains employee said "No highway patrolman here to say you can't and I don't know if there is one farther down the road who will send you back, but you can try." So off the three Darwin Award Candidates went. Their story from here on out so they'll have to supply the details of the dread and terror, the descent and return from Hades, the close call with the snake, etc.

Let it be said that I arrived in Winters only a few minutes behind them. OK, OK, they had lots of sightseeing and people to talk to on the way;) , such as the fire captain who said "Well, I don't see any highway patrolman here so be careful." Bill thinks he thought they were loons.

Meanwhile, the Davis Double was re-routed to do the last half as an out and back. A few folks had started before the official time and got out in front of the officials and so got to ride an extra 40 miles to get back on course.

[jobob]

OK, I'll pick it up from where we Bubba, Kim and I taked our way past the Caltrans woman at the roadblock.

We had Hwy 128 practically all to ourselves heading over Cardiac and down to the Beryessa dam. That was ever so cool.

As we were descending Cardiac we had a great view of the smoke billowing from the bottom of the valley. When we regrouped at the dam overlook before the last of the descent, I asked if we were about to become candidates for the Darwin Award. :D

After a tiny bit more debate - we REALLY didn't want to have to retrace our route and go back up Cardiac! - we continued on. We reached the bottom of the descent and crossed the bridge and approached an RV park. By then we could actually see flames along the road up past the RV park. :eek: We continued on with a bit of trepidation. Well, OK, I had a bit of trepidation, as much for the fire as for the thought that we might have to turn around only 10 flat miles from our destination. We spoke to some firefighters who said the road would be OK to pass. SK's right, they probably thought we were loons, I sure did ...

So, onward through the fire zone! At this point the road was up against the hillside, which had pretty much burned out by then but there were still small isolated fires burning. It was so weird riding along the road where there were flames right along the road - they were almost lickin' at our heels!! (well, if we were riding on the other side of the road). The firefighters were letting these fires burn out, but they were also watching them carefully since it was so close to the RV park.

We then passed thru an area that had already burned out, the stark view was very creepy. There were remanents of a tree that had fallen into the road which had been picked up by then (for the most part) but the road was still strewn with tree bits. All together the fire area stretched maybe a mile along the road.

A memorable experience!

[maillotpois]

Wow. So I am going to do a double with you, Jo??? I think I'd better double check my life insurance limits... :eek:

[Deanna]

Wow!! What a ride! My brother-in-law and his stoker somehow missed the message that the DD was an re-routed due to the fire and did the original loop with only one rest stop and $8 to buy food and water.

[Veronica]

Yeah, but they finished in like 5 hours...:p :p :p

Did Paul ride it with Cat?

V.

[jobob]

Wow. So I am going to do a double with you, Jo??? I think I'd better double check my life insurance limits... :eek: Nah, just get a Kevlar vest :cool:

Anyhow, it was Bubba's idea.

[cindysue]

Wow!! What a ride! My brother-in-law and his stoker somehow missed the message that the DD was an re-routed due to the fire and did the original loop with only one rest stop and $8 to buy food and water.


Did Paul ride it with Cat?

I'm going to take a wild guess here.... Is Janet (Paul's wife) your sister?

[Deanna]

Veronica: He rode with a buddy from Truckee this time, Conrad.

CindySue: Paul is my husbands brother. Janet is a very cool sister-in-law though. She's an amazing rider too, and I like that she's not super competitive like Paul & my DH.

[Deanna]

I'm going to take a wild guess here.... Is Janet (Paul's wife) your sister?

I'm guessing you know them through Luna?

[cindysue]

yep :)

I've briefly chatted with Paul and Janet on a few clifbar/luna events. Most recently I saw them both at Grizzly Peak. I rode with Paul for - oh - about 5 minutes :p before he and another guy picked up their pace. I'm really blessed to be involved with the program - so many fantastic and genuine souls at Clifbar :)

That reminds me - I picked up a tip during Grizzly from Lisa the Clifbar yoga instructor: at the rest stop - squeeze juice from orange pieces into your water bottle for a refreshing taste to your water :cool: