new rider again

[Kano]

So, it counts as being a new rider to go from being a comfort-beaster to a roadie, because I say so!

DH and I went shopping today and found a GREAT deal on a very comfy '06 Roubaix Elite. (deep blue) I did NOT expect all carbon, and even some Ultegra in the mix! I thought I'd be lucky to get tiagra instead of Sora...

Not WSD, but a very nice fit. Much better than the Dolce I also rode. Both were okay up on the hoods, but when I got into the drops, the WSD just wasn't a happy thing. As I told DH, the only comfort issue I found on it was anatomical: MY anatomy got in the way a bit when I was in the drops, and the bike shop will NOT be able to make THAT change for me!

Picture later on today, right now I'm trying to figure out how to get the pedals off my beast so I can put them on my new toy. We have a hedge to massacre, and then, as I told DH, we MUST go for an inaugural ride!

(DH insisted we had to get some kind of ****ering going, even with the discount, so we got 'em to swap the seat for something wider which may end up on my comfort-beast, and to throw in a couple of tubes. They wouldn't do pedals, so that's why I'm swapping out the stock "blocks" for my clipless ones!)

So, any tricks to getting these things swapped out, or do I just need DH's upper body strength, since I"m just pulling and pushing on the wrench with no luck?

Karen in Boise

[Grog]

Hi Karen !

Congrats on the new bike! Make sure you send us pics soon!!

For the pedals, remember that you must unscrew them by turning your wrench towards the BACK of the bike, whichever side you are on. To put the pedals on, you must turn the wrench towards the FRONT of the bike.

This being said, I've often experienced fused pedals which I was unable to remove. When the bike shop finally did the job for me last time, we added a little o-ring (plus the usual grease) and it made a world of difference.

I now put the pedals on and off by using an hex-key (instead of the wrench) on the inside of the crank. Much easier, too.

ENJOY!!

[Kano]

Thanks Grog!

Pedals are on -- DH has better leverage, since he's taller and has more upper body strength than I do, which made him more persuasive getting them loosened from the other bike. I did install them my ownself, though!

I love the ride! It's so much nicer than my comfort-beast. I ca tell that this new riding position will take a little getting used to, like I need to add some core strength, I feel this in my hands and elbows!

The seat may need to change too. Not sure, could be that I'm wearing my yukky shorts today!

So, here she is, and she wanted me to give you a better glimpse of her lovely blue!

Karen in Boise

[mimitabby]

CONGRATS on the road bike!!

Take your time, they take some getting used to.

( I am finally over the big hump in that learning curve)
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[Kano]

Thanks Mimi!

I feel like I'm flying with almost no effort at all, it's amazing!

Gotta get myself a rear view mirror of some sort, since it would be nice to see where DH is straggling along behind!

Karen in Boise

[SouthernBelle]

Very pretty. Has she told you her name yet? :p

[wannaduacentury]

Hi Karen !

Congrats on the new bike! Make sure you send us pics soon!!

For the pedals, remember that you must unscrew them by turning your wrench towards the BACK of the bike, whichever side you are on. To put the pedals on, you must turn the wrench towards the FRONT of the bike.

This being said, I've often experienced fused pedals which I was unable to remove. When the bike shop finally did the job for me last time, we added a little o-ring (plus the usual grease) and it made a world of difference.

I now put the pedals on and off by using an hex-key (instead of the wrench) on the inside of the crank. Much easier, too.

ENJOY!!

Thanks Grog, I needed that advice too. I forgot how to do it

:p

Jennifer

[Bikingmomof3]

Sweet Bike! :cool: Enjoy her. :D

[Kano]

Very pretty. Has she told you her name yet? :p

She has not -- though she might be "Roubaix Blue" -- it just sounds kinda good, you know?

What she HAS told me is "you ain't in as good shape as you think lady!" We won't tell DH, but muscles ache today, and it's DEFINITELY time to do some serious core work!

and "you need new gloves lady!" Old gloves are good on mountain bikes, where pressure is in a whole different place than on this bike. My gloves have padding more toward the outside of the heel of my hand, and I can feel the need for something different in the "thumb web" area now.


Hmmm, you need new gloves lady -- good excuse to go shopping!

Karen in Boise

[Tater]

Sweet bike, Karen!! Can't wait to see it in person. We have got to go for a ride!

[Kano]

Sweet bike, Karen!! Can't wait to see it in person. We have got to go for a ride!

Our next door neighbor said that same thing!

We got her at George's -- the new store! (have you been there yet?) We were going to go there "on the way" to the downtown store, but never did get to that shop (oh well). She's a MUCH nicer bike than I expected to get in the price range. Dolce Elite was supposed to be my top end, and I was pushing it with that model! (I put my foot down on the Sora shifters -- didn't like those at ALL!)

Are you going on the SPIN ride that's coming up? It's April 7, bright and early. Only 16 miles, and as Earl says, it involves food. Looks like a pretty much straight line, out and back type ride, bright and early in the morning.

I've got to go shopping before then: need new gloves and a mirror. Maybe a computer too, though Earl says "use your old one." Now if I could just remember what it was that this one doesn't do that I wished it did -- oh, I remember!!!! altitude!

That means I can post my question in "gear," now that I remember what it was I wanted to ask about!

Karen in Boise

[Tater]

Our next door neighbor said that same thing!

We got her at George's -- the new store! (have you been there yet?) We were going to go there "on the way" to the downtown store, but never did get to that shop (oh well). She's a MUCH nicer bike than I expected to get in the price range. Dolce Elite was supposed to be my top end, and I was pushing it with that model! (I put my foot down on the Sora shifters -- didn't like those at ALL!)

Are you going on the SPIN ride that's coming up? It's April 7, bright and early. Only 16 miles, and as Earl says, it involves food. Looks like a pretty much straight line, out and back type ride, bright and early in the morning.

I've got to go shopping before then: need new gloves and a mirror. Maybe a computer too, though Earl says "use your old one." Now if I could just remember what it was that this one doesn't do that I wished it did -- oh, I remember!!!! altitude!

That means I can post my question in "gear," now that I remember what it was I wanted to ask about!

Karen in Boise

Yes, I have been to the new LBS! It is so nice. In fact, I was just there yesterday stocking up on patches and tubes. The goatheads on Hwy. 16 seem to have this magnetic attraction to my tires lately! :mad:

I might skip the SPIN ride, as I have been lengthening my weekend long rides in preperation for a 200K brevet in Driggs in May. But yet I could ride to the start point, do the ride, then tack on more miles afterwards. Hmmm....we'll see.

[Kano]

Yikes, Tater, you're doing brevets now too?

Gotta admit, those sound a little nuts to me YET. Who knows where my thinking will be in a couple more years...

So, DH came wandering down to my office yesterday, and caught me reading my TE forums, and I was just finishing up my last post here, and he was peeking over my shoulder, watching me scroll though the screen, and suddenly, he said STOP! GO BACK! What??? You're posting pictures of your new bike on the web????

Yes, dear, we're women, we do that sort of thing....

Karen in Boise

[Tater]

Yikes, Tater, you're doing brevets now too?

Karen in Boise

Yes, I couldn't resist the call!

[mimitabby]

women put their bike pix on the web? Men do it too!

So what DO you do about the goat head thorns?

When I lived in Boise, I rode a bike exactly 2 miles once. When we brought our kids and their bikes to Weiser once for the Old Time Fiddle Festival, we ended up doing very drastic things to their bikes after 300 flat tires.
(I forget what though)

I hear you are having hand complaints. Make sure the handlebars are where they should be.

and good for you for getting out and riding!

[Kano]

Goat heads: armadillo tires or slime. LBS says armadilloes on my new bike. Slime is good, but LBS dude said not so good in high pressure road tires. Dude said it tends to just blow right out through the holes, not clog them. That was his answer when I asked to make sure armadilloes were available for my bike if I run into lotsa flats.

Tater, have you tried them?


Mimi, I will keep the handlebars in mind, but at this point, I'm adapting to a whole different riding position, and figure I should give it a hundred miles or so before I make any changes, except to the seat! I'm going to swap that out for the one on my old bike and see if I can utilize my butt a bit more to take a little of that pressure off my hands!

I'll pick up a new pair of gloves to give myself a little padding between hands and hoods, and do my crunches, and watch my diet (make less of me to hold up!) and put in a few more hours, and see how I'm doing. Now, that won't stop me from talking with the dudes at the shop to see if it's easy to make some temporary changes that will help me adapt while I'm in picking up those new gloves!

21.5 miles on the new bike, and I'm in awe of the muscles I'm feeling! AND of how easy it was to make them "feely" as my kids used to say! Which is probably WHY they're "feely" -- it was so easy to get more out of them!

Karen in Boise (debating a ride in the rainy windy icky weather today, but after work!)

[mimitabby]

Karen
you are right where I was last year. my new bike made me want to go faster,
but my old muscles weren't quite ready for it yet.
Good luck with the goatheads!

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

If you tilt your bars up a bit so that the top part is parallel to the ground instead of sloping down, it will not only put your wrists in a more natural position on the hoods, but it will also bring your hoods just a bit closer to you, thus reducing the stretch/reach and getting some weight off your hands.

[Tater]

Goat heads: armadillo tires or slime. LBS says armadilloes on my new bike. Slime is good, but LBS dude said not so good in high pressure road tires. Dude said it tends to just blow right out through the holes, not clog them. That was his answer when I asked to make sure armadilloes were available for my bike if I run into lotsa flats.

Tater, have you tried them?


Karen in Boise (debating a ride in the rainy windy icky weather today, but after work!)

Yep, I have Armadillos on the commuter-mobile, but not the road bike. I've ran over broken glass, tree branches, road debris and not had any problems with them. Picked out thirteen goatheads one afternoon after a commute. They have to be pretty long to puncture the tube. The only flat I have had with the 'dillos (2500 miles on them) was after riding over a nail. One puncture on one side of the tube, nine on the other!

Karen, if you ride today you are a nut! :p :D That wind is just too much for me and I am wussing out of today's ride. Going forward isn't too bad, but having to lean into the wind is! Good luck if you go.

[Kano]

Karen, if you ride today you are a nut! :p :D That wind is just too much for me and I am wussing out of today's ride. Going forward isn't too bad, but having to lean into the wind is! Good luck if you go.


I did NOT ride -- couldn't even talk the dog into going out today, and will now have bad hair for a month after going for the mail! My hair now looks like this: :confused:

Instead, my daughters and I went to the mall and looked around for pretty new things to want!

DH wanted to ski tomorrow -- I've gotta work again. Hard to pass up fresh snow!

Karen in Boise

[Kano]

Forgot to mention -- stopped at the LBS today, and talked with "my" bike dude about gloves. Got a nice, boring black pair -- didn't want to limit my shirts and such by picking up the pretty blue, pink, or purple ones!

Bike dude did say give it a little more time, cuz, you DID just change over from the upright bike. I do like that he remembers me from the other day -- they're a busy place, and we didn't spend that much time in the store! But more importantly, poor bike dude had one heckuva limp today: left shin had bad case of road rash! He was pretty positive about it anyway, though -- but it looked SORE!

The other thing I wanted to ask about while I was there was those Presta valves -- had to find out how to put air in those tires before I've got flat tires and don't know what to do about them! Sweet young road-rashed bike dude was very understanding about what seemed a pretty silly question in my book, but of course, I know that the dumbest questions are the ones we don't ask! Those valves are cool! I'm suitably impressed with the dude who came up with that idea!

Karen in Boise

[sbctwin]

Kano, there are little adaptors that you can get that will convert a presta to a shrader(sp?) valve, if you only have a pump that fits a shrader valve. I keep one screwed on a tire in case I need to pump up at a gas station or whatever.

[Kano]

Lisa -- tilting the handlebars -- does that make it more challenging to be comfortable in the drops?

SBCTwin -- bike guy, the poor dude with the bad road rash on his leg, mentioned the adapters. His comment was if my pump only does the schraeder, it would be a good idea -- didn't occur to me that I might run into someplace where I couldn't get my hands on a "switch hitter" pump! Maybe I'll get an adapter after all! Or my own tire pump, so I don't have to stick with DH! (he's been the pump carrier in our family)

Karen in Boise -- where it's been another incredibly windy day!

[Fredwina]

If you tilt your bars up a bit so that the top part is parallel to the ground instead of sloping down, it will not only put your wrists in a more natural position on the hoods, but it will also bring your hoods just a bit closer to you, thus reducing the stretch/reach and getting some weight off your hands.

You may want watch this, as this may increase the apparent distance between the brakes and the bars while on the drops. I had a fitter do this to me. I was fine on the spin around the lot, but out on the road, it was scary.

[logdiva32]

Hi Karen !

Congrats on the new bike! Make sure you send us pics soon!!

For the pedals, remember that you must unscrew them by turning your wrench towards the BACK of the bike, whichever side you are on. To put the pedals on, you must turn the wrench towards the FRONT of the bike.

This being said, I've often experienced fused pedals which I was unable to remove. When the bike shop finally did the job for me last time, we added a little o-ring (plus the usual grease) and it made a world of difference.

I now put the pedals on and off by using an hex-key (instead of the wrench) on the inside of the crank. Much easier, too.

ENJOY!!
A tip from a not so old army female wrench turner. Keep a what we call a cheater pole around ( 2-4 ft pole) slide over wrench and turn;adds hundreds of foot lbs for torque power.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Lisa -- tilting the handlebars -- does that make it more challenging to be comfortable in the drops?

You don't want to tilt it drastically differently- just make little adjustments. If the bike fits well, it shouldn't BE too difficult to be comfortable in the drops. Over months of riding, your core muscles will strengthen and keeping your weight balanced will become not as difficult as when you are a new rider. That was my experience, anyway.
Make sure you are never straightening your arms and locking your elbows when you ride- it tends to put too much weight on your hands and that makes you unbalanced. Try to keep your weight balanced between your seat, your hands, and your feet.
I had to experiment with finding the right length stem so my reach was right.

[Aint Doody]

I found that having the top bar totally level hurt my wrists and as Fredwina said, the drops weren't comfortable at all. I guess we're all put together differently. I think that's a good thing!!