Anna Nicole Smith is dead

[Pax]

I just read about it on CNN. How sad...all that money, privilege, and power and it all boils down to nothing in the end. Just sad.

[Kitsune06]

You can't take anything with you, can you?

[Pedal Wench]

Her life was such a train wreck, but I just feel sorry for her newborn girl. Really sad, actually.

[doc]

What a bizarre life. Her 85 yo husband dies (OK that was in the plan I'm sure) then her 60 yo stepson who is suing her for his Dad's money dies, then she gives birth and her son dies in front of her the next day and now she dies.

[chickwhorips]

wow. i thought you were joking at first, i had to check cnn.

i wonder if it was the trimspa?

[crazycanuck]

Who cares? Sorry to be rude but :rolleyes: just another hollywood freak.

c

[7rider]

+1!

[bikerchick68]

I agree she was a bit of a freak... but there are still people who loved her and are hurting because of this. Sad for sure. Especially for the 5 mo old baby. :(

[Pax]

I agree she was a bit of a freak... but there are still people who loved her and are hurting because of this. Sad for sure. Especially for the 5 mo old baby. :(

Well said.

[KnottedYet]

Poor baby, nobody seems to be sure who the father is.

Hopefully she'll be able to grow up OUTSIDE the limelight.

[Brandi]

Maybe the babies life will be a little better. her mom was really messed up. Not that I think her not having her mom is a good thing. But look how messed up her son was. Maybe this baby will have more of a chance you know? I sometimes wish i had a different mom. But then again my life is really good now and maybe if I had not gone through the things with her I did things would be a lot different now and I wouldn't want my life any different then it is now.

[Dianyla]

I can't say I saw this coming. But I can't say I'm surprised, either.

[kelownagirl]

Maybe the babies life will be a little better. her mom was really messed up. Not that I think her not having her mom is a good thing. But look how messed up her son was. Maybe this baby will have more of a chance you know? I sometimes wish i had a different mom. But then again my life is really good now and maybe if I had not gone through the things with her I did things would be a lot different now and I wouldn't want my life any different then it is now.

Then again, Howard Stern claims to be the baby's father....

[Fredwina]

Then again, Howard Stern claims to be the baby's father....

If I remember right it's a different Howard Stern, I believe he goes by Howard K. Stern to distingush himself from the "other" Howard Stern (who's Howard A.)

[Batbike]

it is sad ... what a messed-up life!

if only she had learned to ride a bike ... :eek: :)

[emily_in_nc]

I was shocked when I heard the news driving home from work tonight. I had a a bit of an interest in her and watched her reality show when it was on -- in the wide-opened-eyes way you'd watch a train wreck. I think it was her huge weight fluctuations and really off-the-wall behavior (gotta be drug induced) that had me wondering about her and what was really going on in her mind. Her poor baby daughter without even a confirmed father.

I will be interested to know what the cause of death was. I'm thinking either a drug overdose (maybe taken to blot the pain of her son's death) or heart problems caused by the rapid/extreme weight loss.

I'm a little shocked that anyone here would say "who cares". Her life is over; she has family and friends who care very much. No matter what else she was, she was a human being and at least deserves a modicum of respect in her death - as I hope we all do.

Emily

[kelownagirl]

If I remember right it's a different Howard Stern, I believe he goes by Howard K. Stern to distingush himself from the "other" Howard Stern (who's Howard A.)

Really? Well I guess the baby might have a chance after all!

[Brandi]

Then again, Howard Stern claims to be the baby's father....
Ohhhhhhh NOOOOOOO!

[Fredwina]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Stern_%28lawyer%29

[East Hill]

Unfortunately for her daughter, it will still be a circus.

There are still two men claiming to be the father. They both want custody, because there's umpteen millions of dollars at stake for whoever gains control.

Neither one of the reputed fathers probably cares an iota about the daughter.

It looks like another tragedy in the making.

East Hill

[bouncybouncy]

My first reaction was "well...finally!" who could continue the poisoning a human body like that without consiquences? I am amazed she made it this far...and how is that baby? any side-effects there?

I do feel for those who cared for her...death is death and pain is associated with death...I just hope they all find peace in this somehow! 'cause she left a huge web of legal issues behind!!!

NOW...to prove the chain of gossip that will be started I have to share what my colleague said when I came into work...all of which on speculation but said with a factual tone of voice:

1 - she died of a heartattack (the otopsy has not been done yet!!! how did this person get such info when NO ONE ELSE KNOWS!!!)

2 - Trimspa drugs are the cause. WHAT???:eek: again...how is person privvy to this truth when no one else is???

3 - Anna and her son, Daniel, were romantically involved and the baby, Daniellyn, is a product of their relationship....UH???

Now that is just 3 speculation by someone who spends little time outside and lives most of his life through TV...

UUUUGH!!!!

OK...i have gotten that out...now I can move on with my little life of no fame and go ride my bike!!!

Peace to her family and hopes of not having to watch any-and-all-Anna on the news for months to come...

[chickwhorips]

wow bouncy you have some good gossipers in your office!

[bouncybouncy]

HAHA...no kidding!!! Wonder what else he has said about who knows what??? He is kinda a political big mouth...geez...what can I believe anymore??? :rolleyes:


OH...and TOTALLY off topic: at Home Depot I saw lightswitch plates, plug-in plates & various other things with your avatar on it!!! I saw them and immediately thought of someone on TE but could not think who it was...now I know! hehe :D

[missymaya]

It is pretty sad that she died. Death is a hard issue to confront, especially if it's sudden, such as the case. But, what I thought immediately afterward was, no matter the fame and fortune and riches, they won't take care of the problems that one has. I had a hard life growing up and wished for all of those things but now that I'm older (and mayber a little wiser:rolleyes: ), there's more to life than that and if we did have those things, would they help us with our issues? Most likely not.

[roadie gal]

Tragic... but not completely unexpected...

[Denise223]

I am very saddened by her death. I believe she is in Heaven now, with her son.

If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!

Peace & Love,

Denise

[Aggie_Ama]

I think it is very tragic. I used to watch her show after working a crummy job, it was frivalous but it was a fun 30 minutes of mindless tv. Her antics (whether staged, drug induced or just her) made me giggle. She was a terribly troubled person and all the money in the world couldn't help her in the end.

Whether she was a tabloid circus act or not, she died leaving a family. It is sad and since she was famous it is considered news these days. Yes celebrity news gets way too much press in mainstream media, but she was still a human being and at the end of the day that is what makes this so sad.

Now to add to media circus- Gsa Gsa Gabor's husband is saying he might have fathered the baby. Goodness- who is going to claim the baby next?

[KnottedYet]

Excuse me? did I read this right?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/02/09/prince.paternity.ap/index.html

Von Anholt (Gabor's husband) was sleeping with Anna Nicole Smith, and considered *adopting* her? But Zsa Zsa wouldn't sign the adoption papers?

What!!?!?!?!?

Fergawdsakes, gimme Daniellyn, split her millions 3 ways and give it to these 3 weird men, and let me raise the poor baby girl in my semi-normal world!

[Kitsune06]

....would trek be okay with that, Knot?

[mary9761]

Very sad, first thing I thought was combination of whatever drugs she may have been on for the depression of losing her son AND possibly post partum depression with her new daughter, possibly combined with the unhealthy trim spa yo-yo dieting etc.
It's a sad thing that her new baby daughter is going to be in a tug of war with any number of men now that are trying to come forth to claim the potential fortune Anna was still fighting to get from her late elderly husband. I hope they can find someone to take care of the baby girl and she not be caught in the middle of the media circus.

[roadie gal]

The more I see of this whole mess, the more I feel sorry for the baby. How could she ever have a normal life?

[light_sabe_r]

I saw this break on our morning news last week, even saw the press conference. Seems as though noone knows anything.

I've always tried to turn off the TV or change channels when someone like her came on, INFAMOUS rather than famous. (same goes for Paris Hilton... and this crop of gossip mag "A-listers" who I honestly don't care about their shananigans.

However I do feel for her daughter. The poor baby is going to grow up and one day stumble upon all these old media reports about her mum. AND not be able to talk to her about it to get the "why she did it" side out of her. She can't even talk to her brother!

I hope Anna Nicole finds peace because she certainly didn't have it while she was alive.

[ridethewind]

The more I see of this whole mess, the more I feel sorry for the baby. How could she ever have a normal life?

It's a sad thing to say, but she may have more of a chance at a normal life now, once the media circus goes away, than she would have had if her mother had lived.

Jean

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

It's a sad thing to say, but she may have more of a chance at a normal life now, once the media circus goes away, than she would have had if her mother had lived.

Jean

Sadly, it's hard to believe the baby will even be normal, considering all the alcohol, pills, drugs, and crash diets her mother has been on for years. Seems to me her mother was so completely out of control with substance abuse that it's pretty unlikely she was "clean" all through her pregnancy. All these things certainly effect a developing baby in utero. :(

[Duck on Wheels]

....would trek be okay with that, Knot?

I think Trek would make an excellent co-mom. :)

[Trek420]

That's good to know Duck because while everyone is looking all over the place for Anna Nicole's baby don't tell anyone but secretly I'm the father and have the kid right here shhhhhh.

[chickwhorips]

i knew it!

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

This whole circus about that poor self-abusing woman is so sad and lame.

Today's headlines happened to be positioned right next to each other in the "entertainment news" webpage:

Battle Over the Body
and
Beyonce's Bangin' Body in Bikini

The first article concerning the battle over who gets to have former Playmate Anna Nicole's now slowly decomposing body to bury.
The second article about singer Beyonce's bikini pictures on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
Apparently a woman's body is a hot commodity whether it's alive or dead.

It is unbelievable to me how pathetic and distorted our country's culture is when it comes to women's bodies. :mad: Whatever happened to women as whole human beings?- are only their bodies worthy of marketing these days? :(
So sad. And what kind of message does all this send to young people?

[Pax]

It's a truly screwed up society where the absolute worst thing one girl can say to another is "you're fat" and the worst thing one boy can say to another is "you're gay".

It's up to us, the adults, to change this. We have to stop obsessing about our weight and focus on health, we have to let people know it's NOT ok to say "that's so gay" when referencing something negative. We have to set the example that treating each other with kindness and respect is the expected behavior.

[KnottedYet]

I work with teenagers often, and I'll hear them say "gay" as a pejoritive (generally meaning "stupid"). A couple times I've said "No, *I'm* gay, that's 'stupid'." Seems to work nicely.

Sknot doesn't let his friends use "gay" like that.

[missymaya]

I agree with the previous statements and add a little as well...
I look up to my mother and grandmother, who both had worked hard to get respect in fields dominated mostly (but not fully) by men as well as working against other adversities. Knowing all the hard work the women in this country have done to achieve respect as humans, business people, intelligent people, mothers, with the ability to care and work hard, it's hard for me to grasp the media's portrayal of women as sex symbols and that alone. This also goes along another communities that have reversed into what they fought against.
Ok, off my soapbox (for now at least)

[mary9761]

Nearly my entire childhood and teen years I was called FAT. I hated valentine's day as a child as I got all the UGLY valentines with hippos, elephants etc. I had it pushed in my face if a new person started to befriend me that if they wanted to be able to be friends with the "IN" crowd they wouldn't talk to me.
I was put on diets from a very EARLY age and while I was chunky in 3rd and 4th grade, being called fat all the time, only made me want to eat more for comfort. I am indeed FAT now, but growing up when Twiggy was today's Kate Moss, THIS was considered FAT at age 16:mad: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mary9761/old%20pictures/marygraduationb.jpg
and even by today's warped standards THIS is considered PLUS SIZE at a size 16:mad: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mary9761/Weight%20Loss/marylate80sb.jpg
I have news for society THIS is FAT http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mary9761/Weight%20Loss/100_9212e.jpg and I'm glad I don't look like THAT any more. I'm still FAT, but healthier and working on it. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mary9761/Weight%20Loss/51404_61805_111905a.jpg
I'm waiting to make that dress into a JERSEY and carry the photo with myself when I ride to remind myself where I DON'T want to go again! I also show it to people to show it CAN be done WITHOUT fad diets, pills or surgery...
Sorry to hijack the thread.. :(

[Bikingmomof3]

Fantastic photos Mary! I really like the idea of making the dress into a jersey as a reminder. :cool: You are a lovely woman and you have done splendidly. Congratulations on chosing to do so without fad diets, suppliments, and pills. :) I too lost a lot of fat without the aid of fad diest or pills. I used common sense and exercise. To this day, I still eat the same way. My lifestyle changed and with it my body and mindset changed as well. Through it all I was fortunate enough to have a supportive family who loved me unconditionally at all my sizes. :)

I rarely watch US tv shows, as most the women on them seriously need to be fed something nutritious. :( I do not know when seeing all the bones in a woman's body became "sexy", but I am glad I do not qualify. :) I am healthy, curvy mom and wife who finally learned to accept her body.

Again, congratulations!!!!! You are an inspiration! :D

--------Thread hijack over-------

[mary9761]

Thanks bikingmom, I have gone the route of fad diets, pills etc and it always comes back and then some.. :( :mad: I didn't lose any new weight last year before being injured again, but I wasn't getting my cross training exercise of walking a couple miles a day with my grandson as I had before. I'm hoping by the time I get my back healed etc and then have the plantar fasciatis taken care of, the boys have a wagon I can pull them in and we can do the daily walks again.
Even Richard Simmons says the first three letters in the word DIET are DIE

[Bikingmomof3]

You will get plenty of time to pull your grandchildren as soon as your back is taken care of. :) I am sorry it is taking so long for you to be attended to, it must be quite frustrating. :( You truly are an inspiration! Some day I hope to be able to ride as far as you do. :) Oh, when you do make that jersey, please post a picture of it. I saved nothing from my heavy days. Now I wish I would have saved something.

What surprises me is how people I *thought* were friends assumed my personality changed when I went from a 98 pound young lady (I know-gross-worst part I thought I was fat :o ) to a 215 pound mom. Suddenly I was treated differently by those who I thought *knew* me. I am back in size 6s again and have no desire to go any lower. Now I get "it is nice to have the "old" you back". What? :confused: *I* never went anywhere. The only thing that changed was my outward apperance. I just shake my head a pray I am teaching my boys to value others for who they are not what they look like.

[Pax]

I was waiting over a month to get in for gallbladder surgery and was terribly ill, dropping loads of weight, my skin was grey, my hair limp, my eyes looked hollowed...my co-workers would exclaim almost daily "wow, you've lost so much weight you look FANTASTIC". :rolleyes:

[missymaya]

I faced the 'fat' problem but at a very young age. I was pretty overweight, wearing a size 14 at 7 years old but I was happy. I went to a very small school and it was pretty tolerable when it came to getting picked on. It was getting into high school where the self-image dropped from being picked on by a lot of other kids. Well, I didn't handle the weight issue well and lost 50 lbs by practically not eating and overexercising in one summer (too much weight looking back on it). I came back, tired, looking pretty ragged and all people could comment on was how I looked so great and lost so much weight while all I thought was about how hungry and tired and crappy I felt ontop of the negative self-image that didn't disappear with the lbs.
Of course, now Im at a much healthier weight and I eat well of course:rolleyes: and exercise appropriately and I feel so much better along with a much better self-esteem but its taken a lot of time and some help to go along with it.

[Kitsune06]

That's good to know Duck because while everyone is looking all over the place for Anna Nicole's baby don't tell anyone but secretly I'm the father and have the kid right here shhhhhh.

I thought Knot was going to be the daddy of my kits? :eek: :confused:

[chickwhorips]

the verdict is in. it was a drug overdose.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/03/26/smith.autopsy/index.html

[doc]

Just like her son a few months earlier, all in the presence of that lawyer. Fishy sounding to me.

[SouthernBelle]

Who else is old enuf to get this reference:

"Anna Nicole Smith is STILL dead." (hint-SNL)

[snapdragen]

Who else is old enuf to get this reference:

"Anna Nicole Smith is STILL dead." (hint-SNL)


:D :D I'm old as dirt.....;) :D :D

[wannaduacentury]

They said today 3/26/07 that she died of an accidental overdose. I still feel bad for har daughter- no one who's she is except Anna's

[KnottedYet]

She and her son both accidentally overdosed on antidepressants?

Odd.

[chickwhorips]

Just like her son a few months earlier, all in the presence of that lawyer. Fishy sounding to me.

and he's claiming the baby is his......:confused:

[ridethewind]

The authorities are saying there was no foul play in Anna Nicole's death. It was accidental.

[East Hill]

Yes, but with that many drugs in her, and her known proclivity for abusing even prescription medication, how hard would it have been to have slipped her just enough of something for 'self-medicating' that would push her body to overload? Not to mention that it took way too long to get her proper medical attention.

Sad statistic, but still, the daughter will always face that image of her mother's sad life.

East Hill

[ridethewind]

I have to wonder why her doctor prescribed all these medications since she had a history of abusing them. The sleeping medication she used could be lethal in combination with some of the other drugs she had been prescribed.

Her life was a mess, poor woman.

[chickwhorips]

scary thing is it is super easy to get meds online or in mexico. her doctor didn't need to write an Rx for them.