hair

[hellosunshine]

is it possible to sort of dreadlock short hair into little tufts?or should i act my age n not my shoe size

[Wahine]

I would love to have dreds. the only reservation I have is that in my job I treat a lot of conservative, older people and they might not like it. Word of mouth runs my business so I don't need anyone thinking I'm too wierd. The other factor is that dreds can smell kinda bad but i think that's only a problem if they are longer.

Is it possible to have short dreds? I don't know, never tried. But keep us posted.

[LBTC]

I've seen some pretty short dreads. ick. Once I realized that you get dreads by just not washing your hair, the romance of them completely disappeared for me!

I'm thinking your age wins on this one. Let shoe size win out in some other category!

Hugs and butteflies,

~T~

[Mr. Bloom]

Mark Twain said:
"Clothes Make the Man...Naked People Have Little or No Influence on Society as a Whole"

While they are wonderfully colorful personalities, dreadlocks don't make someone's life easier in mainstream society (unless your last name was Marley...).

I too vote for age over shoe size...

Change of Heart Edit: BUT, I just noticed that you're in a creative field...you can pull this off if you want to!

[Bad JuJu]

According to my hairdresser, whose birthday gift a couple of years ago to her teenage surfer son, was to help him start his dreds, there's more to it than just not washing your hair, especially for blonde-haired white kid. I don't remember the whole process, but basically you have to do something to break down the outer coating of each hair. And I've seen some very cute short dreds.

ANYWAY, I vote for shoe size on this one, if it won't hinder your functioning as you wish to in the circles in which you move in life: work, school, family, whatever.

Here's the thing: will you get to a point in your life when you can't do this thing with your hair and wish you had? After all, it's only hair, and if you don't like the new look, you can always change it back.

[East Hill]

What Mr. Silver said! If you are in a profession which does not rely on conservative looks to succeed, and indeed, which may benefit you to be extraordinary, go for it.

East Hill

[KnottedYet]

Depends a lot on your hair texture.

While I was in college (twenty-mmph years ago) dreds were a fad, and kids with fine straight hair looked REALLY bad with dreds. The dreds grew wimpy and uneven and the scalp that showed just looked....awkward. Some of them just looked like mats. Like matted dog hair.

Maybe fine straight hair can do it with professional assistance.

Now, the kids with thick curly or nappy hair looked great! Their dreds looked right: even and neat and round in cross section (rather than mat-like) and it didn't look like they had huge awkward bald patches on their scalps.

Good dreds look great, bad dreds just look pathetic and poseur. (do people still use that word? Poseur?) And personally I like the look of good short dreds.

I wanted dreds... sigh. Wasn't gonna happen with my hair. So every so often I go for 1 1/2 inch spikes. Spikes work very well on my thin baby-fine hair.

Edit: BTW, I work in the same field as Wahine, but with a different population. They like spikes and would probably handle dreds just fine (just not on ME). Assess your contacts carefully if you think they will be influenced by your hairstyle.

[Eden]

Interesting question. I think dreadlocks can be really nice and sexy if done right and kept up well. As far as being unprofessional - I've seen dreads that are nicer looking and neater looking than some people without dreads keep their hair so I think that its like anything else - Its the amount of effort that you want to put into it. I found a really good web site about how to make them and how to maintain them. It acutally looks like a lot of work....... http://www.dreadheadhq.com/ There is a how to and a lot of good photos (imho both of how to do it well and how not to do it) on people of all races and hair types and hair lengths.

Not washing your hair may be one way to get them naturally, but from what I read you certainly can wash your hair, in the beginning you just have to wash it less often our you'll disturb the dreads too much. I would bet if you just don't wash your hair and let the dreads form naturally then you get the nasty matted look rather than the neat smooth look. They also said if you have you have to be very very dilligent about getting getting them dry all of the way through, especially if they are fat or they could mildew - ick!

[KayTee]

I like the look of dreads on some, but they'd never do for my own work or lifestyle. Dreads I've seen on most fine-, straight-haired white people do look chunky, irregular and just not quite right. So I vote for yes if your hair texture, aesthetics sense and lifestyle will support 'em OK. Otherwise whatever involves the least amount of maintenance and results in the least offensive helmet-head! ;) BTW, I'm a dog person and totally love dreads - er, cords - on certain breeds like pulik, komandorak and Havanese.

[KnottedYet]

Eden - cool website. Just wandered through it, fun!

[pyxichick]

My sister had dreadlock extensions. Basically, they were dreadlocks of fake hair attached to her very short real hair, which was bleached blond. It looked pretty cool, and she didn't have to go without washing her hair or do anything to her natural hair, so it was easy to remove them and do something different if she wanted.

I think dreads can look really cool, and don't worry about what other people think.

kate :)

[Geonz]

One of our high school kiddos tried to do dreads. Some faculty wanted to tell him he had to wash the hair... but the powers that be figured holding back and letting natural consequences take their course was better (it being high school and time for people to have some freedom).
Time went on and peers encouraged him to wash... nope...
... but then he was at a buddies house in the kitchen doing something like cooking, adn somehow there was a flour fight...
... and flour in the hair turned to glue.
Kiddo ended up shaving his head. Faculty and students rejoiced. (Student probably just a little relieved at not "giving in" until he wanted to...)

Couldn't tell you what kind of hair he had even though he was one of my students - prob'ly a bit too fine.

Be yerself, in whatever invention that is!

[hellosunshine]

next year im 41!then my age and european shoe size will be the same!!!!!


am wondering re helmets n dreadlocks too.



WHY OH WHY DO MEN FEEL SO UNEASY RE WOMEN AND SHORT HAIR?

[KayTee]

Helmets and dreads? How about Tinker, http://www.tinkerjuarez.com/photogallery/misc/103_0640.jpg ?

[KnottedYet]

WHY OH WHY DO MEN FEEL SO UNEASY RE WOMEN AND SHORT HAIR?

Cuz they think all women with short hair must be d*kes. Or strong. I just grew mine out to shoulder length, and men do react differently. Can't say it's better, they seem to dismiss me easier but they are also more polite. And I don't get called "sir."

[Kimmyt]

Women with short hair....

Men and other women feel the need to call them names because they are frightened by their strength.

It takes a lot of willpower to not hide behind your hair. A [gay] friend of mine told me that a woman who looks good with short hair is a really pretty person. Your face is the star of the show, not your tresses.

That being said, for years and years I had short hair and finally started growing it out. :( I miss my short locks. But I got really tired of the onslaught of people assuming things about me b/c I had short hair and was not 'feminine' enough for them.

Now that I lost some weight I think I would look even better with short hair, but all of my friends and family are urging me to keep it long. Plus, unless I go really short, I would miss not being able to tie it back. Ultra-short or long is good to get it out of your face, but mid-length is just very hard to deal with for me, a non-hair person.

I still swear that when I get older I am going to let my hair go iron gray or silver and crop it close to my head. And wear long dangly earrings and skirts, and bollocks to whoever wants to call me names.

:)

[tygab]

I just cut my hair short two days pre 2007. It has never been anything but short, but it has not been this short in a while. It is now the way I had it for most of my 20s, and I am very happy about it. Made me wonder why I haven't done it sooner.

If having dreads is something you want to do in life, go for it. It's too short to have those kinds of regrets!

[GLC1968]

I still swear that when I get older I am going to let my hair go iron gray or silver and crop it close to my head. And wear long dangly earrings and skirts, and bollocks to whoever wants to call me names.


This is why I look forward to turning 50. That's when I think I'll be close to 100% gray and when I plan to do this exact thing to my hair!!

If your lifestyle and hair type support dreads...I say "Go for it"!!
Oh, and shampoo isn't all it's cracked up to be. I have shoulder length curly hair and I haven't used shampoo in almost a year. My hair is soft, touchable, frizz-free and it does not stink. It's all about proper care and maintenance!

[five one]

I still swear that when I get older I am going to let my hair go iron gray or silver and crop it close to my head. And wear long dangly earrings and skirts, and bollocks to whoever wants to call me names. :)

Several years ago I was in a shopping mall and saw a couple of middle-aged women walking towards me. Both had salt and pepper hair which was very attractive on them. I always notice women in my age group who don't dye their hair because I don't and sometimes need some visual reassurance that I've made the right choice. Anyway, as we got closer to each other I made eye contact with the one with hair a bit shorter than mine. We smiled briefly and kept walking away from each other. She looked vaguely familiar and I was trying to figure out where I might have seen her. Then it hit me. It was Joan Baez :eek: ! I'm sure she thought I'd recognized her when in truth, I was just noticing her hair! And for the record, she is absolutely beautiful in person.
www.joanbaez.com.

My natural color is dark brown and I'm maybe 10% gray. Seems like more because of the contrast. If I colored it, I could possibly pass for my early 40's (I'm 54), but I'd have to do the roots every three weeks to keep from having the "halo effect". What a bother! I figure the easiest thing to do to stay younger looking is to keep riding my bike and try to stay in the best shape I can.

Back to the dreadlock issue, I've seen a few men and women who look wonderful in them, but the hair has always been fairly short and professionally done. The long ropey dreads look like something cats cough up. Bleh.

[emily_in_nc]

This is why I look forward to turning 50. That's when I think I'll be close to 100% gray and when I plan to do this exact thing to my hair!!

Me too! I'm hoping to retire at 50, so I think that's a good time to do something as drastic as going naturally gray and cutting all my hair off, since I've been coloring my hair for years. Won't my family and friends be shocked to see the new me! I started getting my first gray hairs at 25 and am probably at least 50% gray now.


Oh, and shampoo isn't all it's cracked up to be. I have shoulder length curly hair and I haven't used shampoo in almost a year. My hair is soft, touchable, frizz-free and it does not stink. It's all about proper care and maintenance!

Interesting! What do you do to keep it clean and "maintained" if not shampoo? I'm really getting an education here on TE, and not just about cycling! :cool:

Emily

[Bad JuJu]

I'm dying to stop dying my hair.:rolleyes:

My mom had beautiful natural salt-and-pepper and if my hair looked like that, I'd kiss the hair-dye good-bye in a heartbeat. But my own hair, which started going grey about 8 years ago, is still a patchy, unappealing grey at 54. I don't mind looking my age--in fact it pi$$es me off when people imply that I should be lying about or otherwise hiding my age. But I am vain enough to want my hair to look good, to me at least. So to those of you who have a nice-looking grey going on, enjoy it! I'm envious.....sigh.

[GLC1968]

Interesting! What do you do to keep it clean and "maintained" if not shampoo? I'm really getting an education here on TE, and not just about cycling! :cool:

Emily

Emily - I'm probaby about 50% grey as well (at 38). I've been dying my hair since I was 20!!

To keep my hair clean, I use a number of different things...lemon juice, conditioner (I 'wash' with conditioner and then rinse it out), some natural mixtures, and then every 4 weeks I color it and the color I use actually works as a cleanser as well. It's amazing how much softer and smoother my curls are now that they aren't stripped and constantly trying to absorb moisture from the air!! I happen to have very thick hair that when left natural, tends toward big 'botticelli' type curls. This technique doesn't work as well for girls with fine or straight hair (I've had friends who tried). :)

[KnottedYet]

I have a fried with curly thick hair who doesn't use shampoo either. Her hair is GORGEOUS. She just rinses it, and once a week does a sugar-scrub with plain sugar.

Bad Juju - I feel your pain. I have thin baby-fine hair, which is gray on each temple and in my forelock. Unfortunately, if I leave it I end up looking like I have mange (as my hair-cutter-chickie said) because the fine white hair is invisible. Henna is what I use. Haven't used henna in a couple months now, just wanna see if I still look mangy.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

When I was a girl I had very light blonde long hair. Then as a young woman it urned a mousey dishwater ash blonde. With my light skin, I looked very pale and dull with this color scheme. So when I hit 30 or so I started coloring my hair red and cut it very short. Everyone loved it, and it looked pretty natural with my light skin and freckles. I felt good with it, and kept it short and red for 20 years.
But then I began to get more and more silver threads... as you know, red fades very quickly in the sun and I had to keep coloring often. The silver threads kept wanting to fade to pink! :eek: Not good. I hit 50 and realized that I was starting to look more "mature" and it become more odd looking to have dark hair with my older face. I don't want to be one of those old ladies on the street with shocking dark dyed hair!! :eek: The softer face with the harsh shocking hair color looks bad.
So, over a few years, I switched to more golden lighter shades of red, then to just golden warm blonde. The lighter I went the more natural I looked and I liked that. I started biking and walking and went out in the sun more and my hair looked nice as it faded. Finally I saw last year that I had about 30% silver mixed with my natural ash blonde, and the silver was very pretty the way it sparkled amongst my "dishwater blonde" hair. The silver gave me pretty highlights and real depth for the first time.
So about 9 months ago, I totally stopped coloring for good, still have very short hair, and I just love all my silver highlights. Now I'm slowly and happily gliding into my natural silver look. I'm finally "free" and it's great! My friends and DH all love it.
I have "finally" come to terms with aging gracefully, especially now that I have lost 25 pounds of flab and have a new biking body! :p :p :p

[missymaya]

My mother used to dye her hair years ago and one day my sis and I convinced her just to leave it be. Now, at 54, she has beautiful silver and black hair. I myself, have found grey (I'll be 24 in July) and refuse to do anything to hide it. Since my mother and I have pratically the same hair type (thick,black, and curly), why prevent the inevitable; just embrace it!
I joined the short hair club 3 years ago (I cut about 20 inches off!) and have never gone back since. Long hair is great but can be a real pain sometimes. Also, I would like to think that I have the confidence to not rely on my hair too much for my beauty (but yes, I am vein enough to make sure it looks good:D ). Don't be intimidated by societal stereotypes of women with short hair; they are just that, stereotypes. If a man doesn't like me because my hair is too short, then too bad for him and any other person who doesn't like me b/c of what I look like!
As for dreds, if you can pull it off and pull it off right, then go for it! It is just hair and if you don't like it, you can start over again!:)

[colby]

Cuz they think all women with short hair must be d*kes. Or strong. I just grew mine out to shoulder length, and men do react differently. Can't say it's better, they seem to dismiss me easier but they are also more polite. And I don't get called "sir."

I don't have short hair, but when I put my hair inside a hat, I get called "him" a lot. Strange assumption. Small shaped being on snowboard with no visible hair not wearing pink or light blue, must be a dude! What would they do if I didn't have visible hair or had short hair and was wearing pink? OH NO, BRAIN OVERLOAD!!

My hair is very long right now, I just don't care to cut it, and more importantly, style it. Short hair requires more styling, which means I'd probably end up with hair that sticks out in all directions pretty much regularly because I'm too lazy for gel or mousse or anything else other than "shampoo, conditioner, comb." ;)

I suspect any guys with "female authority" problems would definitely have short hair problems... and dread problems... and... and... :rolleyes:

[emily_in_nc]

To keep my hair clean, I use a number of different things...lemon juice, conditioner (I 'wash' with conditioner and then rinse it out), some natural mixtures, and then every 4 weeks I color it and the color I use actually works as a cleanser as well. It's amazing how much softer and smoother my curls are now that they aren't stripped and constantly trying to absorb moisture from the air!! I happen to have very thick hair that when left natural, tends toward big 'botticelli' type curls. This technique doesn't work as well for girls with fine or straight hair (I've had friends who tried). :)

Interesting! Thanks for the information. I used to have to shampoo daily since I had oily hair in my teens, but as I've gotten older (and started coloring in my late 20s), it's gotten dryer, so I shampoo less often. Still, after riding, running, or any other heavy sweat-inducing activity (gardening, etc), I do feel the need for a shampoo, so that usually means every other day or at least every third day. I color every five weeks and notice that I don't have to shampoo for several days afterwards as my hair stays very nice then. I also do the "conditioner wash" thing; that is, I use conditioner every time I shower, even when I don't shampoo. My hair is wavy but not very thick; it's gotten thinner as I've gotten older. I think I'll try decreasing shampooing to every third day and see how it goes....

Emily

[Dogmama]

About 2 months ago, some TE'ers might remember I cut & colored my hair drastically. Went from long, straight brown to short, messy, blonde-red. The color became brassy & I went back to have it toned down - only to come out with MORE red-blonde tones. Failure to communicate. It became straw colored within a few weeks. NOT a good color for me.

A few days ago, I went back to short, dark, neat hair and I love it. The "messy" look actually took longer to style! Best part - I went to a new stylist who charged me $52 for the whole thing, as opposed to $150 from my former stylist!

Regarding dreds - I personally do not like them at all on anybody. That's just me, but I don't like hair that looks like it is a colony for fleas.

[KnottedYet]

Today I was at the grocery store (buying GLUTEN FREE BEER! Party!) and stood behind a woman with male-pattern baldness. She was quite attractive and while the bald-on-top was very noticable it wasn't distracting. Anyway, I was reminded of my plans to sew myself a bunch of wild-print pill-box hats back when I thought I might be headed for chemo and radiation and end up losing my hair. (Before I learned there was NO effective chemo, and radiation only worked 20% of the time. Things are different now. Thank goodness.) Back when women wore hats you didn't have to mess with your hair so much, you just plunked a hat down on it. There are certainly days when I'd like to just pop on a hat and leave it be. (and not a baseball cap, either)

Maybe I'll start doing up some pillbox styled hats. (actually, scrub hats are pretty much the same thing) We need elegant "bad hair day" hats!

Oh, lookee: http://www.jkayedesigns.com/

[Kitsune06]

I have a fried with curly thick hair who doesn't use shampoo either. Her hair is GORGEOUS. She just rinses it, and once a week does a sugar-scrub with plain sugar.

Bad Juju - I feel your pain. I have thin baby-fine hair, which is gray on each temple and in my forelock. Unfortunately, if I leave it I end up looking like I have mange (as my hair-cutter-chickie said) because the fine white hair is invisible. Henna is what I use. Haven't used henna in a couple months now, just wanna see if I still look mangy.

Your hair's pretty, Knot- I like it. :D The henna complements it quite well. :D

[mary9761]

Today I was at the grocery store (buying GLUTEN FREE BEER! Party!) and stood behind a woman with male-pattern baldness. She was quite attractive and while the bald-on-top was very noticable it wasn't distracting.

I'm one of those women who is balding and it's quite embarassing. I actually look better WITH a helmet to cover my bald spot. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mary9761/matching%20jersey%20and%20shorts/maryjerseyb.jpghttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mary9761/matching%20jersey%20and%20shorts/marysuitbikebc.jpg I also had very baby fine blond hair when I was much younger and as I aged it went mousy ash blonde. When these photos were taken, I'd been coloring my hair with a red I fell in love with, but upkeep was a pain AND between the coloring (did my own) and sun FRIED the hair that was/is exposed to the sun and now it matts unless I put it up UNDER the helmet in a dewrag.
I've stopped coloring my hair again and it's getting quite long down to the middle of my back again, and the silver/grey is starting to show big time (just in the last couple years has it started) Of course if it meant I could/would have a FULL head of hair, I would gladly deal with silver/grey

[logdiva32]

I have done it all. Now I have plain shoulder length hair. In college I had dreads, not sure how white people with thin hair do it. But only 2 ways to go with black thick hair. Either the true rasta way, wash, beeswax and no comb for years. Or separate, twist, tease, and bond with bees wax all in an alternating fashion. And these are only removable by cutting. I dyed my dreads light red and they were gorgeous.
I cut all my hair off into a caeser style crop cut. The German guys all loved it. They would come up to me and ask, what country are you from and were surprised when I said US. They thought I was african. So they left, LOL. They love african women, despise american, haha. Now, due to my Military Career as an Officer if your boss doesn't like it, he'll just tell you to cut it and that is it, so I just stay nuetral for now.
But I will not let my hair, dress, or career define my womenhood.... So do what pleases you. If you are a true and real person, a proven producer in your field, people will make a wise choice when interacting with you. Think on it, meditate a bit, and go with your spirit.