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KSH
12-13-2006, 10:01 AM
All right, I have been tempted.

I think I found a new road bike. It is a Giant TCR C2, 2006, Full carbon, with all Ultegra components... for $1800. Marked down from $2300. I am pretty sure I know a really good deal when I see one. It's exactly what I have been looking for.

They are holding the bike and I am going to ride it on Friday. I am sure it will be just fine... but I have to make sure.

I will also get 10% of the purchase price towards accessories. So, I get $180 worth of stuff! Tubes, etc. I wonder if shoes are included in that? I HOPE SO!

I shouldn't buy it... but shoot, I could die tomorrow. My poor family... I hope they don't get stuck with my credit cards debt!

Come on ladies... help me rationalize purchasing this bike. I do have 0% interest on my credit cards... and I will be getting a raise at work... AAANNNDDD... I might get some $$$ back on my taxes... got anymore for me?

mimitabby
12-13-2006, 10:10 AM
yeah, you and me both. You sound closer to plunking down the cash though!

:)

Bikingmomof3
12-13-2006, 10:27 AM
KSH,
If it is a sweet ride on Friday, I say buy it. Life is too short and it is one sweet deal. :D

HappyAnika
12-13-2006, 11:28 AM
On the one hand, didn't you just get the new tri bike?

On the other hand, I love a good deal and $1800 for full carbon and Ultegra is a steal. The 0% might push me over the edge in your situation, particularly if it were accompanied by a raise, the extra could go toward paying off the bill every month . . .

What I try to do in situations like this is think if there are other things that are more important that the money could go toward. Unfortunately for me there are always other things . . . :rolleyes:

Good luck, that's a tough decision.

Tri Girl
12-13-2006, 12:20 PM
Ooooo...that's a toughie.
Here are my thoughts:

Pros:
-you're getting a raise and tax refund- so it's not going to be a financial strain
-it's one sweeeeet deal, and they don't come along that often
-it's a great bike
-you only live once

Cons:
-you just bought a new tri bike, so it might be hard to give = time to both and give them their special "you and me" time
-if you have other things that could be paid off/need to be taken care of, that may be more important
-you may attract too much attention out there on that sweet ride and so many people will want to ride with you that you won't get to ever ride solo

Ok- silly, but I always make a pro/con list when I have a hard decision.
The cons most always win because I know there's something else/better I could put the money toward. I'm a downer like that. :p


(shhhhh....secretly I say go for it)

KSH
12-13-2006, 12:50 PM
TriGirl, I like those pros and cons- THANKS!

Anika, you had some good points.

The truth of the matter is that I was looking for a new road bike. The tri bike was really a one-off deal that I couldn't pass up.


Unfortunately, owning the tri bike, doesn't fix my issue with needing a nicer/faster bike for my group rides.

Honestly, the tri bike will only get ridden once a week until summer. Then it will be 2 days a week. Even now, I am giving up one of my favorite group rides, so I can ride the tri bike weekly. Otherwise, it wouldn't get ridden at all.

My old roadie, the Trek 1000, will still be ridden once a week until summer... then it will be 2 days a week.

So, my time is equally split either way.

I won't say this is a rational and great decision. I have credit card debt that I should pay off before I buy a new bike... BUT... that won't happen for another 2-3 years.

Honestly, I don't feel like waiting that long. Horrible, I know... and not 100% responsible, but I do pay more than the min. each month and I have 0% interest on my debt.

I can be responsible on many levels... but sometimes... I just feel like saying, "screw it... let's have some fun".

That is what got me to buy a Ninja a few years back. And you know what, I never regretted owning that Ninja... it was a lot of fun... and I cherish my memories on it.

Oh well, I will test ride the Giant on Friday and see if I love it. Maybe I won't?

BleeckerSt_Girl
12-13-2006, 12:56 PM
Please excuse a DUMB question, but I really want to know- what are the differences between a tri bike and a road bike?

KSH
12-13-2006, 01:51 PM
Please excuse a DUMB question, but I really want to know- what are the differences between a tri bike and a road bike?

Not stupid at all.

The biggest difference that makes a tri bike get snubbed from group rides, are the aero bars with the shifters on the end.

If you click on this link, you can see a picture of a tri bike.

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/reviews/dual.shtml

If you notice the handlebars are totally different from a road bike. The aero bars are not good for corners or climbing and you should NEVER ride in aero position and draft. Thus, these bikes are used in tri's or for time trials.

In the TDF, you will see road bikes in the mountains and "tri" bikes in the time trials.

Also, the geometry of a tri bike is different. It has a shorter top tube and you are pushed forward more... thus you are suppose to save your hamstrings for the run.

Hope I helped some.

Artisan
12-13-2006, 02:04 PM
Having just bought two new bikes in the last couple of months, I say go for it. :D My husband surprised me with a new Rush, then I saw a Cannondale six13 deal that I could not pass up. I saved up half in savings, the other half I made up for by selling two older bikes and some items around the house. Maybe you could make some extra money by getting rid of some older items to help pay for the bike and keep any quilt or buyers remorse at bay.

colby
12-13-2006, 02:51 PM
If you're going to be able to use it and you're going to be able to pay for it, why not? :) It sounds like you're ready for a new road bike, you definitely have uses for it (can't go aero everywhere), and it's an awesome deal.

The only downside is paying for it, and... well... paying for it. ;)

KSH
12-14-2006, 10:40 AM
More thoughts on the new bike:

I have decided that I am seriously going to consider the Specialized Roubaix (? spelling) too. It is a $1600 full carbon bike (2006 model/marked down), with Ultegra/105 mix. I read the reviews here on BT comparing the 105/Ultegra/Durace and it sounded like the only difference between the Ultegra and 105's was the weight.

And as silly as this sounds, I love the color of the Specialized, and for some reason I like the idea of buying that brand. The colors on the Giant, I don't really like so much. In the end, the bike I enjoy riding the most will win out, but if I like the colors too, that would be good.

I also need to reanalyze WHAT I am going to use this road bike for. I have focused on racing models, just so I would be faster. But I might need to focus on a comfort road bike that still goes fast. I won't race on my road bike.... I just want to keep up with the fast boys. Maybe a more comfortable road bike will do that too? I also want this road bike for distance... so comfortable would be good.

Ah.... decisions!

mimitabby
12-14-2006, 10:48 AM
I fully support your need to have a bike of the right color.
What color is that?

HappyAnika
12-14-2006, 10:51 AM
And as silly as this sounds, I love the color of the Specialized, and for some reason I like the idea of buying that brand. The colors on the Giant, I don't really like so much. In the end, the bike I enjoy riding the most will win out, but if I like the colors too, that would be good.



This sounds like exactly what I was saying when I bought my bike last spring. Although it was my first road bike, and you're way beyond that. I loved everything I read and heard and saw about the Specialized Dolce Elite (aluminum alloy), and I loved the color. Meanwhile the bike shop suggested I try the Trek, and I was hesitant because I didn't like the way it looked. I rode the Specialized and was very disappointed. Then I rode the Trek and knew it was the bike for me (and now I love the color and everything about it). I'm not trying to knock Specialized, 4 good friends have them and DH will likely buy one this year, it just wasn't for me. But you'll know it when you ride it.

Either way, it sounds like you're definitely leaning toward a new road bike!

KSH
12-14-2006, 11:13 AM
I fully support your need to have a bike of the right color.
What color is that?


It looks similar to this... although this is not exactly the same bike.

http://www.real-retail.com/via/saishin/specialized/06r-sworks01_02.jpg

It's small, but here is the Giant:

http://www.factory-discountcycles.co.uk/acatalog/tcr_comp_2_s.JPG

mimitabby
12-14-2006, 11:26 AM
ah, Black and red! That looks hot to me!
my husband is spending a small fortune on a custom bike, it will also
be black and red.

Eden
12-14-2006, 11:39 AM
Can you ride each of them before you make your decision? I'm not sure about non-wsd Specialized as compared to Giant, but compared to Specialized wsd frames, Giants (even the wsd models) tend to have rather long top tube lengths for the frame size, so the same "size" bikes may feel very very different.

KSH
12-14-2006, 01:48 PM
Can you ride each of them before you make your decision? I'm not sure about non-wsd Specialized as compared to Giant, but compared to Specialized wsd frames, Giants (even the wsd models) tend to have rather long top tube lengths for the frame size, so the same "size" bikes may feel very very different.

OH yes. I am going to test ride both of them tomorrow. We will see if either one wins out.

I haven't looked at WSD models, as they tend to be made for women who have long legs and short torso's. I am the opposite. I have short legs and a long torso.

colby
12-14-2006, 05:46 PM
Ah.... decisions!

Well, if you're going to commit, you might as well look at all your options! :)

KSH
12-15-2006, 04:03 PM
Well, if you're going to commit, you might as well look at all your options! :)

Well, I looked at my options...

I test rode the Giant. I wasn't in awe. It was nice, don't get my wrong, but didn't inspire me to spend $1800.

I test rode the Specialized Roubaix. It was nice... nicer than the Giant I thought, but I still wasn't WOW'ed.

Then... I test rode the Specialized Tarmac Elite . All carbon, all Ultegra, beautiful "custom" (Starts with a G?) paint job... and I was WOW'ed. LOVED IT. It rode like a dream and was really peppy and fast.

The price for that one? $2200 marked down from $2500. $400 over what I wanted to spend.

I loved it, but I decided that I need to see what my raise at work will be and IF I get any money back on my taxes, before making the decision to buy it. And if it's gone when I have the money, then so be it. It wasn't meant to be.

mimitabby
12-15-2006, 05:15 PM
Well, I looked at my options...

I test rode the Giant. I wasn't in awe. It was nice, don't get my wrong, but didn't inspire me to spend $1800.

I test rode the Specialized Roubaix. It was nice... nicer than the Giant I thought, but I still wasn't WOW'ed.

Then... I test rode the Specialized Tarmac Elite . All carbon, all Ultegra, beautiful "custom" (Starts with a G?) paint job... and I was WOW'ed. LOVED IT. It rode like a dream and was really peppy and fast.

The price for that one? $2200 marked down from $2500. $400 over what I wanted to spend.

I loved it, but I decided that I need to see what my raise at work will be and IF I get any money back on my taxes, before making the decision to buy it. And if it's gone when I have the money, then so be it. It wasn't meant to be.
gee, you sound way too sensible. THe right bike will appear.

Grog
12-15-2006, 08:58 PM
Good decision KSH.

And the longer you train on your older, heavier bike, the stronger you get!!

Bikingmomof3
12-16-2006, 04:58 AM
KSH,
Very sensible and you are right, if the bike is meant to be, it will be there when the time is right. :)

KSH
12-16-2006, 05:24 AM
Good decision KSH.

And the longer you train on your older, heavier bike, the stronger you get!!

HA! HA! HA!

Maybe that's why I'm so dang fast on Buttercup (tri bike) already? ;)


Now, it's so odd... I can't find a SPECIALIZED TARMAC ELITE anywhere on the internet. I swear the frame said Elite... but I only see COMP on the internet. ODD????

KSH
12-18-2006, 12:31 PM
OK... DUH!

It's a Tarmac EXPERT... not Elite. DUH!

I went and test road it again... and drooled on it some, but was able to walk away.

Yea, if I end up getting one in 2007, I risk it matching my Cervelo- with a black and yellow color scheme. People will think I'm some kind of nut who needs to have all matching bikes. :p

Bluetree
12-18-2006, 12:33 PM
People will think I'm some kind of nut who needs to have all matching bikes. :p

No, K, we would NEVER think you're some kind of nut :rolleyes:


Step away! Step away from the bike!! :p

bcipam
12-18-2006, 02:13 PM
More thoughts on the new bike:

I have decided that I am seriously going to consider the Specialized Roubaix (? spelling) too. It is a $1600 full carbon bike (2006 model/marked down), with Ultegra/105 mix. I read the reviews here on BT comparing the 105/Ultegra/Durace and it sounded like the only difference between the Ultegra and 105's was the weight.



Ah.... decisions!

I know there's has been lots of discussion about this but there is a big difference between 105's and Ultegra. Now if you were debating between Dura Ace and Ultegra I would say get the Ultegra it's a very good groupo and will save you money but if you have the opportunity to get Ultegra over 105 I would do that. 105's are not as smooth shifting as Ultegra. They don't "trim" as well. $1600 for a bike with 105's sounds expensive to me even though there's a carbon frame. The other bike sounds like the better deal.

Bottom line just makes sure it fits no matter what.

mimitabby
12-18-2006, 02:16 PM
No, K, we would NEVER think you're some kind of nut :rolleyes:


Step away! Step away from the bike!! :p

except for the same kind of nut that most of us are...:D

KSH
12-18-2006, 04:48 PM
I know there's has been lots of discussion about this but there is a big difference between 105's and Ultegra. Now if you were debating between Dura Ace and Ultegra I would say get the Ultegra it's a very good groupo and will save you money but if you have the opportunity to get Ultegra over 105 I would do that. 105's are not as smooth shifting as Ultegra. They don't "trim" as well. $1600 for a bike with 105's sounds expensive to me even though there's a carbon frame. The other bike sounds like the better deal.

Bottom line just makes sure it fits no matter what.

Well the bike I *heart*... the Specialized Tarmac Expert... has all Ultegra compoments, and that is with a carbon frame. It runs $2200 on sale. OUCH.

Offthegrid
12-18-2006, 06:17 PM
I loved it, but I decided that I need to see what my raise at work will be and IF I get any money back on my taxes, before making the decision to buy it. And if it's gone when I have the money, then so be it. It wasn't meant to be.

Radio host Dave Ramsey would be so proud.

KSH
12-20-2006, 11:52 AM
Radio host Dave Ramsey would be so proud.

Well, I get my review on 12-28-06! Then I found out how much my raise is!

On the upside... it will get back dated to 11-28-06... so I will get a "bonus" of sorts on my paycheck where the raise shows up.

Now, I can only hope to get enough of a raise so I can pay $200 a month to pay off the bike in one year. Doubtful... as raises are NEVER that big... but a gal can dream. :)