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BleeckerSt_Girl

11-20-2006, 07:57 PM

The Twelve Principles of WoolWeenies:*

1. We admitted we were powerless over wool.

2. Came to believe that wool could restore us to sanity.

3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of wool as we understood it.

4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of our wardrobe.

5. Admitted to WoolWeenies, to ourselves, and to another TE members the exact nature of our wool needs.

6. Were entirely ready to have wool remove all our defects of layering.

7. Humbly asked wool to remove our polyester odor annoyances.

8. Made a list of all wool items we had ripped, and became willing to mend them all.

9. Made direct mends to such wool items wherever possible, except when to do so would fray them further.

10. Continued to take wardobe inventory and when we were running low promptly bought more wool.

11. Sought through websearches and discounts to improve our conscious contact with wool, as we understood it, seeking only knowledge of wool's will for us and the budget to carry that out.

12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of wearing wool, we tried to carry this message to other woolweenies, and to wear wool in all our activities.

*(with apologies and a respectful nod to AA...) ;)

Trek420

11-20-2006, 07:57 PM

Down with high tech fabrics :cool: :D . Yeah, wool does feel really good.

KnottedYet

11-20-2006, 08:09 PM

Lisa!!!! You are a GODDESS!!!!!! A *goddess*, I tell you!

Trek - I knew you liked it.;) We'll get you wearing wool soon. We'll start you on Duofold (cotton next to your skin) then advance you to wool longsleeve shirts, then t-shirts; and soon, the big one... wool boxers!

Wool underwear, the sign of a true woolweenie! (umm, that doesn't quite sound right, but we know what I mean!)

Trek420

11-20-2006, 08:21 PM

I see, Duofold is the entry drug, then it's all downhill from there till I hit bottom only to be found in a gutter somewhere having lost my house, family and job all in search of more and better wool.

At first there were the excuses, oh, I'll only wear wool on the weekends, or only after very special rides. Soon you'd be making excuses for me "Trek will finish that project, she'll get to work on time, she just needs more wool after a weekend of riding".

Thanks to the higher-power as we know it there is wool-anon for the family and friends of WoolWeenies

*very respectful nod to AA and Alanon

KnottedYet

11-20-2006, 08:28 PM

Psssst... Hey, Trek. C'mere. I gotta nice black Duofold henley that oughta fit ya. Has that authentic "broken in" look. Cotton interior layer, 40% wool in the outer layer. Nice and cozy for those chilly December San Francisco nights. Clean, and it's the real goods. C'mon, what could it hurt? I'll let cha have it, first one's on me, eh? Hey, we're friends, right? Would I steer ya wrong?

Grog

11-20-2006, 08:31 PM

Hi group, my name is Grog, and I am a woolweenie.

It has been weeks since I have last taken off my Ibex Ultimate Guide Sweater in blue, and when it's really cold I layer it with some Smartwool. My dear partner's mother brought me back Smartwool striped socks from a trip and I would have exchanged my mom for her at the moment I opened that package. I have been thinking about those loose tights day and night since they were introduced to me...

*sigh*

KnottedYet

11-20-2006, 08:37 PM

Dianyla

11-20-2006, 08:39 PM

I don't have a woolling problem. I can stop at any time!!! :p

mimitabby

11-20-2006, 08:55 PM

I don't have a wool problem either. I just don't have enough dresser drawers
and my closet is too small.

Lisa, that was a good 12 step list. My husband was VERY impressed.
(he said if you weren't a girl, he'd ask you to be his wool sponsor)
(girl sponsors can only sponser girls, boy sponsors can only sponser boys)

madscot13

11-20-2006, 09:00 PM

Hi my name is madscot
I first bought my first piece of wool last spring from REI. First I saw the smart wool and I thought this is the perfect zip neck it is what i have searched for high and low- it looks tight, warm, and black. But then I saw it was too expensive. but then REI brought out their own brand and sent me a coupon. and then it happened.
then I bought the blue zip neck. I didn't need a blue one. I needed a black crew neck
So I bought one from icebreaker. It is warm and thick. thicker than smar wool. more expenive than smart wool
But now what I really need is a thick skiiing veryday sweater. The Ultimate guide sweater in stock is too large for me. I am still lost and confused
So I bought the icebreaker ignition pullover. It isn't quite what I am lookiing for but it will do.
And now I am a poor college student wearing a sweater that is a third of my rent.

thank you wool weenies for helping me in that at least I am poor but when I am evicted I will stay warm through the warmth of merino.

DebW

11-20-2006, 09:01 PM

I see, Duofold is the entry drug, then it's all downhill from there till I hit bottom only to be found in a gutter somewhere having lost my house, family and job all in search of more and better wool.

That's the beauty of wool. You can be homeless in a gutter in rain and snow and 40 mph winds, but you'll still be warm. :D

My name is DebW, and my wool addiction started in the winter of 1974-75 before the advent of synthetic fabrics. If you wanted to winter hike then, you needed wool. And being a poor student, my winter hiking wardrobe consisted of navy surplus wool pants (luckily I got the ones with the zipper instead of the 13 buttons), two army surplus wool shirts, wool balaclava, and ragg wool socks. When I could afford it, I bought some Stil-longs long underwear pants - wonderful quality soft wool. Also owned wool fishnet long underwear. My fav woolies ever are boiled-wool Dachstein mittens - almost completely windproof. For biking there was ProTogs, of which I still have a long-sleeved T-shirt with only a few moth holes. Currently all my socks are Smartwool. I own Smartwool boxers, two long-sleeved wool bike jerseys, and I have a collection of wool shirts from Goodwill, one a Pendleton. Too cheap to buy Smartwool shirts for now.

3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of wool as we understood it.

Yes, I owe a lot to wool. Here's the story of how wool saved my life (OK, I'm exaggerating but only a little). The first day of a winter overnight hike we had to cross a stream about 30 yards wide. There were step stones maybe only a little underwater and it wasn't too icy. I was standing a little ways from shore helping other people across, then handed my camera to someone and started across myself. Slipped on a rock, lost my balance, and sat in the water. Stood up quickly but was wet from the waist down. Crossed the stream. Took off boots, poured out water, squeezed out socks, put socks and boots back on. Boots were all rubber (Army K-boots) with sealed insulation, so feet were fine. Continued hiking in wet wool pants with polypro longjohns underneath, temp maybe 25F. Within 10 minutes the polypro felt dry and warm. The wool pants continued to keep me warm but they held water and got somewhat frozen, providing good wind protection. At camp I removed the wool pants, with longjohns still dry underneath. Put on fuzzy camp pants and windpants and was happy. Left the wool pants hanging in a tree over night. The funny thing was, they froze stiff in a really funny position and I couldn't get them on the next day. I had to beat them against a tree to make them fit into my pack. I hiked that day in longjohns and windpants, which was quite fine.

Xrayted

11-20-2006, 10:06 PM

hehehe, Lisa, I'm sittin' here laughing my azz off and can't possibly explain that one to my S.O. Somehow, that just makes it even funnier. :o :D

I see, Duofold is the entry drug, then it's all downhill from there till I hit bottom only to be found in a gutter somewhere having lost my house, family and job all in search of more and better wool.

Hmmm... "in search of more and better wool." Ain't it the truth. ;) :rolleyes:

Well, I'm a relative wool newbie, but I learn quickly. Yes, I too have aspirations of rooms filled with smartwool and ibex. Ahhhh, feel the love of smooth, caress-able wool.

bambu101

11-21-2006, 02:21 AM

songlady

11-21-2006, 04:59 AM

I never had a wool problem til I started coming to this board. You are all the biggest bunch of enablers!!!!:mad: ;)

But seriously, Sierratradingpost.com has a beautiful IBEX vest on sale in L/XL for $28, I just had to add it to my collection of Smartwools (thanks steepandcheap :rolleyes: ).

KnottedYet

11-21-2006, 06:44 AM

Bambu - Duofold (cotton inside, wool outside) or some Woolrichs (poly-fleece-something inside, wool outside) might be just the ticket for you.

In the realm of no-itch, yes; Smartwool, Ibex, and Icebreaker are good stuff. I'd say Ibex is the least itchy. I'm wearing one of their Agate T's right now. Very fine thread, very tiny knit, and very smooth. But I have no wool itch problems. Ibex is a pretty sweet and small company in Vermont. i would bet you could ask them to send you a little patch of one of their finer-gauge fabrics so you could check your sensitivity to it.

www.ibexwear.com

KnottedYet

11-21-2006, 06:47 AM

Here's a link to that Ibex Kilometer vest at Sierra:

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/product.aspx?baseno=38367&CN=Ibex-Kilometer-Merino-Wool-Vest-For-Women

Go forth and shop, my sisters!

Grog

11-21-2006, 06:49 AM

OK, all you WoolWeenies. Am I doomed forever, or destined to follow you all down the righteous path of wooliness? I have sensitive skin, have to buy unscented detergent, etc. and have always itched at the feel of wool or cashmere on my tender skin. Is there hope for my pathetic, wool-free existence? Is this Smartwool stuff really as itch-free as it is claimed to be?

I am very sorry to say that a friend of mine who has a wool problem - not like me: her skin turns red and she itches no matter what - can't wear Smartwool, Bleu Forêt wool-silk socks, or others... Haven't tried Ibex, but I won't waste it on her, it's very unlikely to work.

mimitabby

11-21-2006, 06:55 AM

My name is mimi and I am a woolieweenie

My husband has the itch problem too. He wears polyprop wicking teeshirts under his wool.

My love affair with wool happened in the late 70's (in the early 70's anything that i owned that couldn't survive being stuffed into a landromat washing machine once a year went to good will)
I find wool at garage sales, goodwill stores, lands end catalogs, why, wool is everywhere! my favorite "undershirt" is a cashmere sweater i bought for 25 dollars. It is too nubby to be attractive as an outside garment, but it is the perfect thing for a cold windy bike ride.

All of my socks are not smartwool because my older son has given me all of his nice cotton ones (he ONLY wears wool socks, he's the one with expensive tastes that lives in the basement)

However, I have a lot of smartwool and I LOVE IT. I was going to buy smartwool sox for most of my cousins in italy until i found out that they are charged for packages from overseas now!!!!

KnottedYet

11-21-2006, 07:09 AM

washing machines:

I wash my Ibex stuff probably once a week in the washing machine with cold water.

Icebreaker zip-t neck maybe once every 2 weeks. It developed a hole, which I sewed, so I try to be gentle with it.

Duofold long-johns develop holes every frickin' time I wash them. My next longjohns will be Ibex.

I have a wool turtleneck from Target that looks fragile, but is about 5 years old now. I wash that by hand.

Smartwool socks: washer and dryer no problems

Woolrich jacket goes out in the rain, etc, but has never been washed.

Ibex jacket gets washed in the machine with Dr. Bronner's soap, because I worry the switchback weave will pill.

LL Bean boiled wool jacket has never been washed.

Swanni - never been washed.

Woolrich vest has never been washed, but it goes out in the rain.

Various wool sweaters get washed in the machine, and some even go into the dryer.

East Hill

11-21-2006, 07:12 AM

My real confession is that I do not wear wool.

I wear cashmere...at least for the upper body stuff!

East Hill

mimitabby

11-21-2006, 07:13 AM

all of my smartwool goes into the washer and dryer (unless i am feeling particularly guilty) but my normal wool sweaters get washed by hand, including
the italian flag italian jersey my DH bought me a few years ago.
It's just not a big deal anymore.
Ibex goes into washingmachine but not dryer.

KnottedYet

11-21-2006, 07:19 AM

Ibex's Weekly Special

http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=349&thePhoto=../Photos/F05/533_131.jpg&Category=&CategoryLine=

margo49

11-21-2006, 08:54 AM

Try being a wool weenie in a place where the summer lasts 8 months and the temps are 40 deg C plus (104 deg F plus) and winter gets "down" to about 10 deg C (50 deg F)... Am I discouraged? No, 1000X no. Wool is an Article of Faith. Wool will never let me down; even if it is wet (and we get 411 mm rain = 16 inches of rain a year!)

I have :
2 wooly winglets (= undershirts without sleeves; one merino and one black with silk round the neck- and arm-holes made in *Italy* therefore very sexy)
3 pure lambswool wool berets (one red of course and one military a la SAS)
2 cashmere/wool scarves (one in "my" tartan and one from Harrods)
2 bush shirts
1 handspun and knitted hat in natural black and white
2 merino-possum hats
1 merino-possum shawl in a glorious shade (blue-green)
1 pair merino-possum finger-ed gloves matching shade to the shawl and one of the hats (above)
1 pair merino-possum socks to match the other hat (above)
1 pair sheepskin mittens ( going strong since 1982)
several pairs of "Norse" socks, most darned beautifully
1 pair Perendale hand-knitted hiking socks
some rugby socks (had 15 pairs at one time in my misspent youth as they were cheap and colourful
2 pairs really pretty and feminine smart-wool socks from my Oct SS (who I am still figuring out)

I am so glad to have found this support group.
I thought I was the only one.
I live in a tiny place and there is noone like me here.

BleeckerSt_Girl

11-21-2006, 08:58 AM

Ibex's Weekly Special

http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=349&thePhoto=../Photos/F05/533_131.jpg&Category=&CategoryLine=

Oh hey you guys be careful about ordering that Neve Ibex jacket on special. :cool:

My girlfriend ordered it and I went over to her house to check it out. She got the small size in green. She is very cute and petite with a slim figure. It looked AWFUL on her! It was big and stiff and stuck out in strange ways.
So I said here let me try it on....I'm a size medium. Well it wasn't too big on me, but it still looked awful. Stuck out in weird unattractive ways- like the chest, shoulders, and stomach parts kept sticking out. I just had to say something because it was a really unflattering jacket when we each put it on.
She sent it back. (She does have the Cirque jacket in small in black, and it looks great on her.)
Ibex had the Neve jacket on their weekly special last month for a long time. Then there was no special for a couple weeks, now the Neve is back again. Watch out for that one, I think maybe EVERYONE is sending them back, that's why they keep putting them on weekly special. Happily, you can send it back if you don't like it, but you'll still pay shipping both ways anyway. :(

SouthernBelle

11-22-2006, 06:18 AM

Aside from socks, I don't have any wool, but my Samrtwool hoodie (the orange one) should be arriving soon.

The only 'problem' is that if it arrives this weekend, it's going to be too warm to wear it. We're having gorgeous, unseasonable weather for Thanksgiving!!!

A complaint we should all have. ;)

Grog

11-22-2006, 08:01 AM

Has anyone seen the Carrie hoodie for real? It looks nice (from yesterday's mailing) and very tempting...

jobob

11-22-2006, 09:05 AM

http://www.fuzzygalore.biz/articles/wash_sweater.shtml

Needles to say, I'm entirely too lazy to do all that. :cool:

mimitabby

11-22-2006, 09:31 AM

http://www.fuzzygalore.biz/articles/wash_sweater.shtml

Thanks for the link. I learned a little. Actually, I've been doing it the hard way.
if you follow her directions, it's fairly easy.
Knot, be sure you read this too.

KnottedYet

11-22-2006, 11:33 AM

http://www.fuzzygalore.biz/articles/wash_sweater.shtml

Needles to say, I'm entirely too lazy to do all that. :cool:

Oh, goodness. Just toss it in the washer on cold with a squirt of Dr. Bronners, then drape it over the top-tube of the bike until dry.:D

Knot-isn't-Fussy-Galore

(but Knot has no pretty wool, just functional wool, even the wool sweaters she has made are functional)

mimitabby

11-22-2006, 11:48 AM

drape it over the top tube of the bike?
Wow, multifunctionality!! never thought of that!!

SouthernBelle

11-22-2006, 01:35 PM

Oh, oh. I qualify now. My Smartwool showed today. How fast is that! Ordered Saturday, got it today!
TE is so fast. BTW, If anybody wants that hoodie, they are right on TE's site, it does run bigger than normal.

HipGnosis6

11-23-2006, 11:31 PM

Next time I make a pilgrimage to the Pendleton outlet in Oregon, who wants to come with me?

margo49

11-24-2006, 03:17 AM

Me, me, me. !!
I biked down the Oregon Coast in1980; so I can do that again too
Going to look at the website now

Trek420

11-24-2006, 07:58 AM

mimitabby "I've been doing it the hard way.
if you follow her directions, it's fairly easy."

follow directions :confused: follow directions?? :confused: you want me to read and then follow directions when I could be doing things the hard way? What fun is that?

Margo. road trip!!! with stops at TE, the Pendelton outlet....

wavedancer

11-24-2006, 05:30 PM

I just received my Smart Wool shirt from Steep and Cheep and is is luscious! Very light weight, smooth, and silky. Too light weight to wear as an outside shirt without something underneath it. Which got me to wondering...Does anyone make a merino wool sports bra or shelf-bra camisole? I love the feel of merino wool next to my skin, especially when I'm riding or paddling, but when I start sweating, any bra I am wearing feels damp. Seems like a wool/lycra blend bra would be just the thing for a true wool weenie!

Linda

miffy'sFuji

11-24-2006, 05:40 PM

here is a little article for you wooluvers to enjoy:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/11/23/SPGDTMIIHP1.DTL&type=printable

songlady

11-25-2006, 04:45 AM

Thanks for the article. I did not know Smartwool was owned by Timberland!

KnottedYet

11-26-2006, 04:13 PM

Wavedancer - Ibex www.ibexwear.com makes 2 different sports-tops/camisoles with shelf bras. If you don't see what you want on the website, call them and ask. They keep stuff back for the next season. (even colors of t-shirts, like i wanted a black Q-T and it wasn't on the web, but they still had it)

Ibex has FREE SHIPPING until Dec 24.

mimitabby

11-26-2006, 06:09 PM

interesting article. it didn't explain very well why smart wool was "smart"
they said it was "treated" how?

KnottedYet

11-27-2006, 06:39 PM

Got my large Smartwool 3/4 sleeve shirt from Steep and Cheap today. I probably would've been ok with a medium, but I'm barely over the idea that I don't need XL!

Tried it on with my CW-X under it. Oopsy, don't wear a black bra under a cayenne wool shirt! Fabric is too thin, say "HI" to the girls!

Fun shirt, though. (with the right foundation garment! :D )

DebW

11-27-2006, 07:02 PM

Here's a problem that maybe you woolweenies can solve for me. I was biking home today in the dark wearing wool knee warmers, and the wool kept sticking to the velcro straps around my top tube that were holding on my headlight battery. I suppose my knock knees (from the dreaded W sit) have something to do with the problem. Good thing it was about 50 degrees, so I could stop and take off the knee warmers. Maybe I better stick to lycra knee warmers on after-dark rides.

KnottedYet

11-27-2006, 07:43 PM

Deb - can you wrap over the closed velcro with electrical tape?

side note: y'all know the etymology of the word "velcro"?

Quillfred

11-27-2006, 07:52 PM

How 'bout that snow Pac NWers. :eek: :D

I hope everyone got home safely. We've got about two inches or so here. DP is supposed to fly to Vegas tomorrow night for a conference :rolleyes:

Bless my Smartwool, Icebreaker, Dale's Of Norway, Pendleton blankets, handmade-by-friend, cashmere, Irish Fisherman style (on its way) and misc.

Still no Ibex though. Here is a fun site that I might indulge in if I was working...

http://www.nevedesigns.com/index.htm

Warning: Lay a firm grasp on your wallet before clicking on link.

Quill

KnottedYet

11-27-2006, 08:10 PM

We've got about 4 or 5 inches, and it doesn't seem to be melting.

I've made the happy discovery that my beloved Levis that I couldn't wear anymore because they were annoyingly loose are PERFECT for wearing over wooly longies!

But why can't I find a matched pair of wool socks? Where did they all go?

And how did SKnot manage to lose a full set of wool long underwear right when he really needs it?

mimitabby

11-27-2006, 08:13 PM

Grog

11-27-2006, 08:34 PM

Well we in Vancouver still have about 20 cm on the ground and it ain't going nowhere since it's going to be -5C and less for the next few days/nights. I live on campus at UBC, a fairly remote area of town, and we didn't have power all day. Now the power is back but the steam plant is still warming up, so we're all freezing! I'm wearing a toque, down jacket, UGS, other layers, etc. and I'm still freezing. :I

Was a great day for wool though!

ktbikes

11-27-2006, 08:37 PM

My brother, as it turns out, is just as big a wool fan as I... he introduced me to Swobo wool cycling apparel over the holiday. Does anyone have any Swobo, and what do you think of it? My brother and I went for a Thanksgiving morning mountain bike ride, and had a whole discussion about wool cycling gear. I went to the website and the women's selection is not as wide as the men's (no full-length wool tights, sadly), but there are some wool beauties. :)

Check out http://www.swobo.com/product_w.aspx?l=00020001000000000000&p=SWB01500&pn=0

Katie

DebW

11-28-2006, 05:05 AM

Deb - can you wrap over the closed velcro with electrical tape?

Guess I could, but I'd have to waste alot of tape, since I don't keep the battery on the bike except when I need it (since it interferes with my knock knees and my hand hits it when I shift). Maybe I just need to look for a different headlight.

side note: y'all know the etymology of the word "velcro"?

Knotted, please tell us the etymology of the word "velco". Please. Please. Please. I'm begging you.

divingbiker

11-28-2006, 03:54 PM

Well, it's official. I'm not a member of the wool weenies club, and never will be. I ordered the Ibex Collo shirt, and it was too itchy so I sent it back. Then I ordered the Steep and Cheap Smartwool shirt last week, and it, too, is too itchy, so I will try to sell it to someone here who didn't get in on the Steep and Cheap deal or I'll send it back. I can wear Smartwool socks (the only way I've found to keep my feet warm on cold morning commutes) but that's it.

It's probably for the best, because being a vegan I have issues with wool anyway, but I was hoping to find a way to stay a bit warmer on my cold commutes with a nice warm base layer. The search continues...

BleeckerSt_Girl

11-28-2006, 04:54 PM

Learned a little lesson today- that merino microweight is not perfect in every way. :confused:
I was taking off my Smartwool microweight longsleeve crewneck shirt today (in Orchid color), and I was pulling the cuff rather roughly to get it off my arm...and my finger poked right through the fabric making a little hole!! :eek: :eek:
Mind you, i have like NO fingernails sticking out beyond my fingers at ALL, so this was just a case of my fingertip pushing too hard, right through the fabric.

So, fellow WW's, we must actually attempt to TAKE CARE of our precious woolens, they are not completely indestructable, despite rumors to the contrary. :o

DebW

11-28-2006, 05:17 PM

Learned a little lesson today- that merino microweight is not perfect in every way. :confused:

So, fellow WW's, we must actually attempt to TAKE CARE of our precious woolens, they are not completely indestructable, despite rumors to the contrary. :o

We must also watch out for moths. (I didn't want to say that too loudly)

Last week I gave in to wool lust and ordered an Ibex T-shirt. Very nice attractive shirt, but I'm afraid the extra fabric in the color piping over the shoulders may not feel good under a backpack. But I'll find plenty of other uses for the shirt. Though I'll avoid wrenching in it - don't want to try and wash bike grease out of expensive wool.

BleeckerSt_Girl

11-28-2006, 05:29 PM

But I'll find plenty of other uses for the shirt. Though I'll avoid wrenching in it - don't want to try and wash bike grease out of expensive wool.

In addition to wrenching, we should try to avoid retching in our expensive wool shirts as well.

DebW

11-28-2006, 05:41 PM

In addition to wrenching, we should try to avoid retching in our expensive wool shirts as well.

LOL. Good one, Lisa. Though I might be able to stay clean while retching, and I definitely can't while wrenching. And I guess we should avoid wringing as well (while laundering, that is).

KnottedYet

11-28-2006, 07:07 PM

DebW - those Agate T's are mighty nice. I have a pale purple-y one. The Qu-T doesn't have piping, that might work better under pack straps. The fabric also seems to be a bit heavier.

Here's the link to DivingBiker's Smartwool 3/4 length sleeves.
http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?p=148412&posted=1#post148412

I just got mine, same color, in size L. I like it quite a bit. The fabric is pretty light, on a par with Ibex's Qu-T but not as light as the Agate T. Certainly not as heavy as Ibex's Norge/Norse crew! The 3/4 length sleeves are kinda cute. The orange part sticking out has a slit all the way to the gray (sort of a floppy French cuff) The torso is nice and long for me, plenty to tuck in but it still looks ok out. In person the orange is a pretty happy deep peachy color. Not garish. I'm a red-head and I can get away with this orange.

divingbiker

11-29-2006, 07:48 AM

The 3/4 length sleeves are kinda cute.

Hmmm, you must have much longer arms than I do, because the sleeves are pretty much long sleeves on me. They end just barely above my wrists. I wish I could wear this shirt, because I really like the style of it.

mimitabby

11-29-2006, 08:11 AM

I'm wearing mine today. definitely 3/4 sleeves. It's less than 25 degrees out,
wool underwear seemed to make sense!

KnottedYet

11-29-2006, 04:49 PM

Washed my dang-blasted wool duofold longjanes last night, and was congratulating myself that THIS time they didn't spontaneously sprout holes all along the seams. (probably cuz there is so much extra stitching along there by now!) Pulled 'em on - OOPS! Several holes up near the waist. Wore 'em anyway. Sick 'n tired of sewing them up.

I need new wooly longjanes!

I was all set to get these from Duluth Trading Co, until I read the bit about the cotton crotch gusset. Uh-oh.
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/department/womens/womens2/womens_pants/35023.aspx?feature=Link_12

I think I'll get these from Ibex. I'm so happy with the same weight Norge crew and Roaster Boxers, that I really should spend the money to get the good stuff. Next year.
http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=571&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/643_2600.jpg&Category=1049&CategoryLine= They are heavy enough that I would be comfy wearing them as running tights, too.

Dianyla

11-29-2006, 06:30 PM

Oh, happy joy! My Ibex Ultimate Guide sweater finally arrived yesterday. I do wish that the Mediums had still been available, the Long is nice and cozy and drapy on me but I'm secretly wishing it will shrink just a tiny little bit.

The feel and weight of it is wonderful, though. :D

madscot13

11-29-2006, 08:15 PM

why must you tease?

still waiting for an extra small in pretty blue to come about,
madscot

KnottedYet

11-29-2006, 09:13 PM

the charcoal gray is still there.... in my size. I can't buy it. Don't want it as much as I want other things. Don't need it at all. But it calls to me anyway. In a soft little voice. Temptress...

Bikingmomof3

11-30-2006, 05:48 AM

Go ahead, splurge. I always wanted one, so tell yourself you are only doing it for a friend. You would be buying a sweater and forcing yourself to wear and enjoy the sweater for a friend. :D

KnottedYet

11-30-2006, 08:16 AM

But that sweater costs almost as much as an off-peak airplane ticket to San Francisco. Almost as much as a compact double Campy Veloce crankset. As much as two Campy headsets.

I have lots of wool sweaters and wool jackets, and honestly I'd rather go to SF to get warm than buy another sweater... ;)

mimitabby

11-30-2006, 08:25 AM

Yes, remember, woolweenies. THere are always sales and second hand sweaters!
I have a closet full of the stuff. And I love it ALL!

DebW

12-01-2006, 07:20 AM

REI-outlet has merino wool T-shirts in the men's cycling section for $26.93 and there's a 20% off coupon good from 12/01/06 - 12/08/06. (If you didn't get the coupon by email, PM me). They have smalls and mediums, but looks like they are going fast.

Canari Wool Tech Jersey
http://www.rei.com/outlet/product/48142446.htm?vcat=OUTLET_SSHP_CYCLING_SA

Wool Weenies Unite!

SouthernBelle

12-01-2006, 12:31 PM

DebW

12-01-2006, 01:09 PM

Tomorrow Goodwill here is having a half off everything sale. I'm going to scout for wool. Wish me luck.

BTW, often tags are missing with fiber content. Any suggestions as to how to tell if it's wool, short of burning a thread as they would probably object to that.

Feeling it generally work for me. You could rub it on your cheek. Or you could wet it and sniff it for the distinctive wet wool smell. Good luck!

SouthernBelle

12-01-2006, 01:15 PM

Feeling it generally work for me. You could rub it on your cheek. Or you could wet it and sniff it for the distinctive wet wool smell. Good luck!

I'll go home and wet my wool and sniff it. :p Then sneak in my little spray bottle tomorrow, or maybe just spit. :p

OK, it's Friday and I'm silly.

DebW

12-01-2006, 01:24 PM

I'll go home and wet my wool and sniff it. :p Then sneak in my little spray bottle tomorrow, or maybe just spit. :p

OK, it's Friday and I'm silly.

I didn't tell you to spit. I take no responsibility for your actions at Goodwill. :eek: :p

mimitabby

12-01-2006, 01:25 PM

I'll go home and wet my wool and sniff it. :p Then sneak in my little spray bottle tomorrow, or maybe just spit. :p

OK, it's Friday and I'm silly.

well, when she said "wet it" i thought of something worse!

wet wool smells kind of like a wet dog. KIND of. I'd like to say like a wet sheep but how many of you have hugged a sheep?
yum.. lanolin.

SouthernBelle

12-01-2006, 01:34 PM

Or I could just go stick it in the water fountain. I'd have to wash it anyway, so take a little soap with me.

mimitabby

12-01-2006, 02:27 PM

DebW

12-01-2006, 02:40 PM

If you like wool shirts, spend some time in the men's section. And men's wool trousers make good winter hiking pants. Though it can take some looking to find things small enough for most women.

Dianyla

12-01-2006, 06:48 PM

seriously, in my forays into goodwill stores looking for wool, unless i absolutely fall in love with a particular sweater, I just go by the label.

if i really like it, I don't care what it's made of. But by looking for labels you can come up with a lot of nice wool.
Yep, that's what I do. Today I'm wearing my $6 banana republic charcoal colored merino wool sweater. Yeah baby. :p

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-01-2006, 06:54 PM

Yep, that's what I do. Today I'm wearing my $6 banana republic charcoal colored merino wool sweater. Yeah baby. :p

Today I am wearing my $2.99 black merino ribbed turtleneck from the Salvation Army, with the "stylish" 3/4 sleeves (don't tell anyone they are actually just SHRUNK!) I love this sweater! That was my all-time greatest buy I think. (Except for the depression era Japan iridescent tea set I got there once for $5, with teapot, sugar, creamer and 4 cups and saucers, in pale blue and apricot! :p )

Dianyla

12-01-2006, 07:13 PM

Hey woolweenies, I need your help! A long time ago someone... maybe Duck on Wheels?... posted about a wool bra.

Where can I find such a foundation undergarment? Especially with an underwire.

TMI: I just hate that "bra smell". Y'all know what I'm talkin' about, ladies? :o

KnottedYet

12-01-2006, 07:22 PM

I don't know of any with underwires, but Ibex makes two camisoles with shelf bras. www.ibexwear.com One is like an athletic tank, the other is like a halter top.

you may have to call and ask them for the camisoles, because they are off season right now so don't show up on the website.

The halter-top one is on sale right now.
http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=486&thePhoto=../Photos/S06/2111_5275.jpg&Category=&CategoryLine=

there is another camisole on sale, too, but it doesn't have a built in bra.

SouthernBelle

12-01-2006, 07:24 PM

Today I am wearing my $2.99 black merino ribbed turtleneck from the Salvation Army, with the "stylish" 3/4 sleeves (don't tell anyone they are actually just SHRUNK!) I love this sweater! That was my all-time greatest buy I think. (Except for the depression era Japan iridescent tea set I got there once for $5, with teapot, sugar, creamer and 4 cups and saucers, in pale blue and apricot! :p )

At Goodwill I got a bunch of pieces of my grandmother's china. I could have a really big dinner party. Course half the guests would have to sit in the floor.

SouthernBelle

12-02-2006, 07:47 AM

Reporting back on my treasure hunt. I spent a massive $9 on 3 sweaters.

1. Just a little cotton short-sleeved pullover, orange and white striped to wear with jeans or a skirt.

2. An Ann Taylor merino wool/cashmere blend, v-neck, tan. Looks new.

3. A Lands End 100% cashmere pullover, maroon or burgundy. A little wrinkled, but once that's taken care of, should look new also.

The trouble is I went looking for cycling layers, but these may be office worthy.

Either way, I rock!
:p

KnottedYet

12-02-2006, 10:23 AM

You rock!

Can you take me shopping?:D

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-02-2006, 11:12 AM

Now I feel the need to go Good Will hunting again....

Bikingmomof3

12-02-2006, 11:29 AM

Sweet finds! :D

SouthernBelle

12-02-2006, 12:36 PM

Come down in January, on the 6th. They have another 1/2 off day then.

Don't GWs in other parts of the country do this?

KnottedYet

12-02-2006, 01:34 PM

Hey! I never noticed this before! A wool specialty shop on TE!

http://www.teamestrogen.com/categories.asp?catID=114

Hot doggies!

Duck on Wheels

12-02-2006, 03:07 PM

And don't forget the ultimate wool-cozy item, right where you need it most on those winter rides -- an Activa wool bra! :eek: :D :cool:
I kid you not! Itchless, warm (and suprisingly enough also cool in summer), wicking, and with support like a sports bra. Sadly, I only have one, but as soon as my source restocks, I'm getting more.

KnottedYet

12-02-2006, 04:11 PM

Darn! I found Activa, but no wool!

Do you have a link? Thanks!

Duck on Wheels

12-03-2006, 12:12 AM

Woops. My bad. Time to stop trusting my memory. It's Aclima, not Activa. But it IS still itchless, supporting, wicking, and weather-adapting.
http://www.aakamilitary.com/aclima_base_layer_wool_bra.cfm

Bad JuJu

12-03-2006, 05:36 AM

I can't believe I haven't noticed this thread until now! And I needed it so badly!

Hi, my name is juju and I'm a woolweenie--a Florida woolweenie!

Which means I have to seek out nice thin wool layers. Today, though, we awoke to a 36-degree morning, so I'm sporting my gorgeous blue Ultimate Guide Sweater, and shopping online for wool underlayers for both cycling and motorcycling. Any suggestions?

By the way, my "gateway drug" was sweet, thin, Smartwool socks that I still wear all year around under my cycling shoes.

KnottedYet

12-03-2006, 06:49 AM

Bad Juju-
Ibex Agate T is very light weight, but not see-through.
http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=237&thePhoto=../Photos/S05/2105_6724.jpg&Category=&CategoryLine=

I've worn it by itself and as an underlayer.

Smartwool seems to be pretty lightweight. I only have one Smartwool shirt, but I have to say <drops into a whisper> I think the quality on the Ibex shirts is a bit better than Smartwool shirt I have. The tailoring is certainly better fitting, the stitching is much cleaner, and the fabric feels smoother.

Check the Ibex Outlet page often, they put new stuff/new colors on it frequently. I think I've gotten almost all my Ibex from the Outlet page.
Tops : http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/Products.php?Type=Outlet&Gender=Womens&OutletGROUP=Tops
And Bottoms : http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/Products.php?Type=Outlet&Gender=Womens&OutletGROUP=Bottoms

KnottedYet

12-03-2006, 07:14 AM

Duck - Thank you thank you thank you for the wool bra link! Whooo-hoo!:D

margo49

12-03-2006, 08:56 PM

What was most interesting was that it was on a military gear site
My mind is still boggling .....
[don't ask...!]
And we thought TE girls/women/personnes were Real Tough!

mimitabby

12-05-2006, 07:45 AM

I went to Value village up in the "good" Neighborhood, Lake city..

I bought a NICE pair of charcoal wool slacks with liner and
a fine but dense (shrunk once) v neck sweater which will be a perfect undergarment. I was thinking about the question "how will i know it is wool
if it doesn't have a label" while I went through all their stuff.
the things that are very very soft are NOT wool unless they have a really hairy appearance, and then they are angora (goat), rabbit (angora), or mohair.(goat)
or they are blended with a synthetic.

Wool even soft wool (like Merino) is going to be a tiny bit scratchy..
CASHMERE... is goat hair! (I just learned something. So wool lovers you can love sheep AND goats I do :)

ps it's better to go wool shopping at second hand stores in the summer.

SouthernBelle

12-08-2006, 05:08 PM

I think I've made a new wool discovery, or new to me. I ordered a wool blend long sleeved T from steep & cheap and it came in today. The brand name is Sport Science and it feels very nice. It's a wool blended with a technical polyester.

Here's the site: http://www.smarterperformance.com/home.php

& click on the performance wool. They have some cute Ts too.

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-08-2006, 05:27 PM

I ordered two of those $60 Approach tights on sale from Ibex- for my older daughter and her partner for Xmas. I'll check them out when they get to me here. Got a Large and a Med.

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-09-2006, 07:29 PM

I ordered two of those $60 Approach tights on sale from Ibex- for my older daughter and her partner for Xmas. I'll check them out when they get to me here. Got a Large and a Med.

Well those Ibex Approach sale tights got here and they are AWESOME!
So nice and thick and stretchy- I love the way they feel against my bare skin- they have a very pleasant soft subtle nubbly texture, like a gentle massage while wearing them. I HAD to order a pair for myself as well. Interestingly, although the mediums do fit me well (snug, like you expect tights to fit), I like the slightly more relaxed feeling of the large, so I am getting a large for myself. They are very luxurious! I can actually wear them around to places when not biking, because they are not as revealing as thin tight lycra tights. I can't even imagine why they would be on sale in the first place!

Grog

12-09-2006, 10:40 PM

Where do they sit between the hips and waist?

I read somewhere that the waist was quite high and I just can't handle anything close to my bellybutton... :(

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-10-2006, 05:33 AM

Velobambina

12-10-2006, 07:31 AM

You girls are a bad influence. After lurking in this post, I ended up clicking the Ibex link that Knotted provided and getting a couple shirts (who can pass up such good deals! haha). This year, I had already added to my wool collection, as REI outlet had some Ibex and Smartwool tops on sale.

mariposa

12-10-2006, 10:00 AM

I just bought myself an Icebreaker Tech Bodyfit Top at www.ems.com. It is on sale for $45, but if you go through the checkout process and apply coupon code FF25, you get 25% off and the total is $33.75. In fact the 25% off code applies to ANYTHING at EMS till Dec 11. There are some other Icebreaker and Smartwool items there. Good luck!

Grog

12-10-2006, 01:42 PM

Well, we are all shaped diferently, but...
It's not a "low-rise" or hip hugger type waist. I would call it a "normal" waist height, not "quite high"- but I guess terminology may have changed. The waist on the tights seems to fall right at my belly button- which is about an inch below my natural waist. (my natural waist being the narrowest part of my waist). I myself like both lowrise and regular waists in clothes.
Got a piercing, or just a sensitive belly button? ;)

Hehe thanks for the info Lisa!

Nothing special on the button, just like to have my pants rest on my upper hips. My tummy doesn't like to be enclosed in elastics. I can't even enjoy dear partner's arm around my waist when I sleep, he has to rest his arm on my hip bone otherwise I feel like I'm squeezed :eek:

I think the tights are out for me. :( That's probably good, because I don't need tights.

DirtDiva

12-10-2006, 04:09 PM

So lovely to see you all supporting NZ's economy. :D

I was adding up the number of woolley items I possess, but when I'd exceeded twenty before starting in on hats and socks and scarves and gloves, I thought maybe it would be better if I just stopped counting. :p

margo49

12-11-2006, 06:56 AM

And also you didn't have to count the items you were actually wearing!
Btw, "gloves" and "socks" count as 1 not 2.

KnottedYet

12-15-2006, 06:46 PM

check it out, fellow woolweenies!

http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/retail/catalog.htm?categoryId=93

One of the wool bags even comes with a full reflective center panel!

Grog

12-15-2006, 10:02 PM

Uh oh....

http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/woolcyclingjersey.html

Should we get a 'WoolWeenies' jersey? just joking.

I wish I could think of something though.

My sweet partner is going to get one for his birthday (March) I think.

DebW

12-16-2006, 04:52 AM

Uh oh....

http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/woolcyclingjersey.html

Should we get a 'WoolWeenies' jersey? just joking.

Those are good prices. If we can get an order of 12, we could get ss wool jerseys for $46.50, ls wool jerseys for $51. On the other hand, it's only men's sizing and would probably be past-the-butt long on most of us.

divingbiker

12-16-2006, 05:32 AM

And that horizontal stripe across the chest is not exactly a good look for many women...

KnottedYet

12-16-2006, 08:03 AM

Grog

12-16-2006, 09:16 AM

And that horizontal stripe across the chest is not exactly a good look for many women...

They have vertical stripes too!

Grog

12-16-2006, 09:17 AM

Ibex makes a classic wool jersey for their cycling team, but I haven't seen it around lately. Wonder if we could convince them to do us some women's jerseys as an experiment? Wonder if they'd give us a juicy discount if we could "advertise" for them a bit wearing the jerseys... I wonder.....

<woolweenie dreaming>

Anybody wanna send them a link to this thread?

The women's jersey I tried from them last year was a terrible fit on me... I tend to be slender, and I would have had room to be pregnant in there... I was quite sad... :(

mimitabby

12-16-2006, 09:50 AM

Those are good prices. If we can get an order of 12, we could get ss wool jerseys for $46.50, ls wool jerseys for $51. On the other hand, it's only men's sizing and would probably be past-the-butt long on most of us.

Hey Deb, my DH bought one of those jerseys and despite giving it the best of care (handwashing, carefully drying it) it has seriously shrunk! It's now TIGHT on him. Too bad, because it was a classy sweater/jersey.

Now we know that you can't even wring wool out to dry. But he didnt know that.

SouthernBelle

12-16-2006, 11:43 AM

Some one should invent a smartwool jersey. With removable sleeves. Good pockets. In orange & black to match my bike.

Grog

12-16-2006, 04:14 PM

Hey Deb, my DH bought one of those jerseys and despite giving it the best of care (handwashing, carefully drying it) it has seriously shrunk! It's now TIGHT on him. Too bad, because it was a classy sweater/jersey.

Now we know that you can't even wring wool out to dry. But he didnt know that.

They say they have a new style now, and it's mashine washable supposedly.... Hum.

DebW

12-19-2006, 06:07 PM

I wore holes in 2 fingers of my Smartwool glove liners last weekend. :( Guess thin Smartwool can't take much abrasion. Should have worn my leather work gloves all day instead of switching back and forth while hiking and moving logs/limbs. The Smartwools were great for gram-weenie hiking, but alas, now I'll have 2 cold fingertips.

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-19-2006, 06:42 PM

dEBw,

I posted in post #53 of this thread how I was rather surprised when I poked my finger right through my SmartWool crew base layer sleeve while pulling it off casually. :eek: I hadn't thought about how wool is not indestructable! I am more careful now with my definitely NOT cheap woolies.
Were you wearing your SW glove liners as outer gloves? That might explain why they did not hold up to abrasion, grabbing tree trunks, etc- they are meant to be worn inside other gloves- probably woven to be soft and thin rather than durable.
You could still sew up the holey fingertips and wear your liners under big work gloves or under mittens, etc.

momof4greatkids

12-20-2006, 05:12 AM

I was never one to wear wool, but after reading here, I had to try it. I was absolutely truly laughing out loud at Lisa's 12-steps for woolweenies! Pure genius!

My first purchase was an Ibex switchback midlayer, got it a week or so ago, at a great price ($34)from SierraTrading (I think I got the last one). I wear it to bike, to shop, to surf the channels from my sofa, it keeps me comfy in all conditions, and I feel quite smart in it if I must say so myself :cool:

Then I saw Mimi's post about getting even better deals from the Goodwill. So yesterday I shopped at a Goodwill store in a nice neighborhood. I was so excited to find a great baselayer, 100% merino (it's skin tight, but it's a baselayer), and a really cute every-day sweater, also 100% merino, for 4 bux each! One label is "Ann Taylor", the other "abercrombie and fitch". I'd NEVER pay full price for either of those brands, but at 4 bux each, ya it's a sweet deal!

What I love most about the wool for riding is that it doesn't grab the stink like the tech layers, and it stays dry. I'm looking forward to trying the wool baselayer later today on a ride.

Last Saturday I was riding on 40 miler and we stopped halfway for lunch. By the time we got back on the bikes, my baselayer (a polyester jersey) was fairly damp and I stayed chilled for 10 minutes or so. Once I warmed back up I was OK. I hope the wool baselayer will prevent this from happening again.

You guys are great, thanks for dragging me into your addictions ;)

Colleen

DebW

12-20-2006, 06:32 AM

dEBw,
Were you wearing your SW glove liners as outer gloves? That might explain why they did not hold up to abrasion, grabbing tree trunks, etc- they are meant to be worn inside other gloves- probably woven to be soft and thin rather than durable.
You could still sew up the holey fingertips and wear your liners under big work gloves or under mittens, etc.

Yes, I was wearing the liner gloves as outer gloves, and grabbing tree limbs with them. Nothing heavy-duty (switched to leather gloves for that), but still... I only paid $10 for them, so not a huge loss. They were great under my lobster-claw cycling mitts, so maybe I'll try to sew up the holey finger and thumb.

KnottedYet

12-21-2006, 07:00 PM

Look, fellow wool-weenies! I have brought an innocent victim into our wooly clutches!

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/KnottedYet/DSCN0382.jpg

Yes, that is a Duofold henley Ms. Trek is wearing... the entry drug to the hardcore wool world of Ibex and Smartwool and Icebreaker!

(and doesn't it look nice on her? I think she should wear it every day. Maybe I should find her another so she can wear wool while washing wool. Yeah, that's it, building up her tolerance one wooly item at a time. Soon, the Ibex Norgie crew my pretty, sooooon...)

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-21-2006, 07:05 PM

Yes!!!
Another convert! :D :D :D

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-21-2006, 07:29 PM

Fellow Woolweenies,

I have become addicted to wearing my merino Ibex sale Approach tights.
At first I wore them only once every few days, over my chamois tights for cycling to keep extra warm.
Then I noticed they felt really good on my bare legs, so I started wearing them around the house when I wasn't cycling.
Now I'm wearing them every day- over my tights when biking, and just by themselves every day, everywhere I go. They are somewhat thick wool and they fit me like ski/pant/tights - snug, but not too tight or revealing to wear in public. I walk up and down the aisles at the supermarket, and no one I pass by suspects that I'm getting a wooly leg massage right there in the cereal aisle.
They feel so good.
I know I can confess here....you'll all understand and won't think less of me.

Sometimes I arrange my day so I can wear them more.
Sometimes I put them on before I get dressed.
I tend to associate with friends who also wear a lot of wool, and avoid those who wear acryllic.
Sometimes I can't remember that I'm wearing them.
I've been late for work because of endlessly picking cat hairs off my Ibex wool tights. (good thing I'm self-employed)
I keep an extra bottle of Woolite hidden down in the laundry room.

I swear, though, I can stop wearing them any time!

Trek420

12-21-2006, 07:35 PM

Yes!!!
Another convert! :D :D :D

starting to sound a little like a cult

http://www.backcountryoutlet.com/outlet/ODR0115/Outdoor-Research-Essence-Tee-Short-Sleeve-Womens.html?id=8VoqMENR

Bikingmomof3

12-21-2006, 07:55 PM

Whoo Hooo! :D Nice photo as well. :)

DebW

12-21-2006, 08:07 PM

Grog

12-21-2006, 11:32 PM

Are the Approach better than the Loose Tights??

SouthernBelle

12-22-2006, 05:35 AM

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-22-2006, 07:06 AM

Are the Approach better than the Loose Tights??

The loose tights are more like slim pants that drape nicely from the hips down. The approach tights are more like tights- they are more form fitting, especially around the calves and ankles.

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-22-2006, 07:10 AM

starting to sound a little like a cult

http://www.backcountryoutlet.com/outlet/ODR0115/Outdoor-Research-Essence-Tee-Short-Sleeve-Womens.html?id=8VoqMENR

But what exactly is "Dri-release wool"? Is it 100% wool, or a blend? Sounds sort of like a fabric blend brand name. and what is "FreshGuard odor neutralizer" and why would a pure wool top need that? Sounds a bit suspicious to me, but then I've got a measure of skepticism in me naturally...

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-22-2006, 07:15 AM

I'm afraid that my army surplus wool pants, rather than providing a "wooly leg massage", give me chafed knee caps. I only wear them in temperatures below freezing.

I feel your pain. Obviously the army doesn't care about how soft their wool items are. They probably use steel wool in their pants, for tough guys with iron kneecaps. Good thing they don't make bras! :eek:

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-22-2006, 07:17 AM

Yesterday, since I didn't want to stay in the office (finished up my last appt before the holiday) I decided to go to Goodwill. Got a men's merino sweater, kinda brown/burgundy 3 button with a collar for $6.

I love my little treasure hunts.

I love going to the thrift shops too. You never know what wonderful things are lurking between the hangers of hideous acryllic monstrosities!

mimitabby

12-22-2006, 07:22 AM

I love going to the thrift shops too. You never know what wonderful things are lurking between the hangers of hideous acryllic monstrosities!

well said, Lisa!

DebW

12-22-2006, 07:41 AM

But what exactly is "Dri-release wool"? Is it 100% wool, or a blend? Sounds sort of like a fabric blend brand name. and what is "FreshGuard odor neutralizer" and why would a pure wool top need that? Sounds a bit suspicious to me, but then I've got a measure of skepticism in me naturally...

I think it's a blend of 10% wool, 90% synthetic (polyester, coolmax, fleece).

I feel your pain. Obviously the army doesn't care about how soft their wool items are. They probably use steel wool in their pants, for tough guys with iron kneecaps. Good thing they don't make bras! :eek:

Steel wool - you're probably right. Would protect soldiers from electrical fields as well.

Grog

12-22-2006, 09:20 AM

The loose tights are more like slim pants that drape nicely from the hips down. The approach tights are more like tights- they are more form fitting, especially around the calves and ankles.

And you like the tights more (for indoors wearing)?

[Feeling weak.....]

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-22-2006, 11:28 AM

And you like the tights more (for indoors wearing)?

[Feeling weak.....]

I like them because they are thick enough and not so tight (like Lycra) --so that they don't show EVERY little body detail and nook and cranny like my Lycra/Spandex tights do, and like my UnderArmour tights do. (keep in mind I might be a bit more brave about this than some women) But they are still shapely, being "tights". I feel sort of like I'm wearing ski pants in them, but without the weird back-of-knee-tent ski-pant thing going on.
My friend has the Ibex Loose Tights and they look great on her and I love the thick wool with the nice drap they have. They are great casual wool pants. But the Loose Tights are shaped more like straight pants at the bottom.
I like my Approach tights also because they are snug around the ankle (like tights) so I can tuck them in to my mukluk/shearling boots without them bunching the way pants do.

In general I'd say if you feel selfconscious in biking knickers then you might want to get the Loose Tights rather than the Approach tights. Now they only have the Approach sale tights left in L and XL. The Loose Tights are not on sale but have a full color and size selection available. I like that Tar color!

Dianyla

12-22-2006, 01:52 PM

Is it wrong to consider buying a cedar chest exclusively for the purpose of storing all of my woolly items?

:rolleyes:

KnottedYet

12-22-2006, 06:26 PM

Is it wrong to consider buying a cedar chest exclusively for the purpose of storing all of my woolly items?

:rolleyes:

Sounds like a reasonable and wise choice, to me!:D

SouthernBelle

12-22-2006, 06:48 PM

Is it wrong to consider buying a cedar chest exclusively for the purpose of storing all of my woolly items?

:rolleyes:

I wish you lived closer. I would happily sell you one. I have mine, my mother's and my grandmother's.

I could really use the space. :p

Grog

12-23-2006, 08:34 AM

In general I'd say if you feel selfconscious in biking knickers then you might want to get the Loose Tights rather than the Approach tights. Now they only have the Approach sale tights left in L and XL. The Loose Tights are not on sale but have a full color and size selection available. I like that Tar color!

Hummm... No selfconsciousness but I think I like the pants-look of the loose ones... And I've got lots of cycling/running apparel, this would be for everyday wear... hummmm......... This is hard.

mimitabby

12-23-2006, 08:38 AM

I wish you lived closer. I would happily sell you one. I have mine, my mother's and my grandmother's.

I could really use the space. :p

Yes, there's always cedar chests for sale on ebay. And the good ones are all east of the rocky mountains and shipping is outrageously expensive. But you can try Craig's list...

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-23-2006, 09:46 AM

Hummm... No selfconsciousness but I think I like the pants-look of the loose ones... And I've got lots of cycling/running apparel, this would be for everyday wear... hummmm......... This is hard.

From what you are saying I would think the Loose Tights might be the right choice- they look REALLY nice on my friend! Perfect for everyday wear.
She's pretty tiny and the Smalls fit her nicely. Judging from seeing hers, I would probably take Mediums myself and I am usually a size medium....if that's any help.

Bad JuJu

12-24-2006, 03:59 AM

Is it wrong to consider buying a cedar chest exclusively for the purpose of storing all of my woolly items?

:rolleyes:
I agree that this would be a wise and practical purchase, esp. if you have a sizeable stash of woolens. I have my mother's cedar chest and it's the perfect storage spot for not only my woolly things but also some particularly heavy and precious cotton sweaters. Plus, it's just a lovely piece of furniture.

Velobambina

12-24-2006, 07:21 AM

I just ordered this sweet merino wool bike beanie in mint:

http://www.jytte.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=5&category_id=1&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=3

I need something warm to wear during my early morning runs, and this should be perfect. :-)

Agree w/JuJu, et.al., a cedar chest is an excellent investment.

Trek420

12-24-2006, 07:45 AM

Uh oh, found the same beanie (not in mint) on sale at:

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/product.aspx?baseno=52961&CN=Jytte-Wool-Beanie-with-Tassel-For-Men-and-Women

mimitabby

12-24-2006, 07:53 AM

Uh oh, found the same beanie (not in mint) on sale at:

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/product.aspx?baseno=52961&CN=Jytte-Wool-Beanie-with-Tassel-For-Men-and-Women

yes, but there are no bicycles on this one!

Trek420

12-24-2006, 08:20 AM

That's true, this is not available at STP

Velobambina

12-24-2006, 12:43 PM

madscot13

12-25-2006, 12:08 PM

merry christmas,
this year for Christmas my parents got me a lot of goodies! I got the icebreaker exp ignition zip and two bodyfit 260 wool crew shirts from icebreaker too. They are super warm and comfy. They also got me a flashdrive so I can save my work- how practical of them this year! (also a sad face for returning to school :( ) My big brother also got me a nice wool coat. So I can look stylish and warm no matter what I am doing! My other brother got me a bike repair book and a gift certificate to REI (ahem so I can pay for them to service my bike when I am too frustrated.

Trek420

12-25-2006, 12:24 PM

I like the bones & paws since I'm mommy to three golden retrievers. :-) Couldn't resist the mint color and the bike motif, even tho I had to pay full price. They also had a hat with a bike going endo on it.

Yeah, I liked the endo one :D But I got the paws and bones since I'm the mom of a mutt and ... just a very poor gal with a really nice bike ;) :rolleyes: :cool:

Grog

12-26-2006, 09:35 PM

Ladies in the PNW! I need your help!!

I posted some info about an outdoors apparel store in Seattle about 2 months ago and for some reason I can't go back further than 100 posts in the forum archives right now.

Anyone has the info? I'm leaving for Seattle tomorrow morning at daybreak and I'd LOVE to stop by the store!!

KnottedYet

12-26-2006, 10:07 PM

I can't remember the name of it, but I think it's the 2nd hand and outlet-y store in Ballard down the street from the Kavu outlet.

Anybody remember?

Here's the Kavu info, that'll at least get you in the neighborhood. You could call them and ask for the name of the 2nd run sports store. ("2nd Ascent" or something?)
http://www.nwsource.com/ae/scr/edb_vd.cfm?ven=7018&s=nws

jobob

12-26-2006, 10:51 PM

this one, perchance?

here is the info:

http://www.secondascent.com
Second Ascent
5209 Ballard Ave NW
Seattle WA

They seem to sell new and used stuff.

And the charming fellow who gave me the info told me he also rides a lot and next time I see him I have to tell him everything about those cycling girlfriends in Seattle!!

Shagge

12-29-2006, 10:46 AM

feel the yearning.... feel the love.... you know you want them....

http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=635&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/0453_1203.jpg&Category=1047&CategoryLine=

We're here to support you in your decision to dress head-to-toe in wool.

Hi KnottedYet and other "woolweenies"! I couldn't resist jumping into this discussion and I hope you all won't mind my presence. I need to first say that I work for Ibex, so obviously I am highly biased toward the wonders of wool and specifically of Ibex merino for cycling and other pursuits. ;) I see that some of you have discovered a couple of our most popular "lifestyle" type pieces, like the Ultimate Guide and the Loose Tights, but has no-one been turned on to our jerseys (like the La Luna) or shorts and knickers (El Fitos)? I'm hungry for feedback, ideas, suggestions, etc., so I'll be on the lookout for wool-for-cycling related thoughts, be they complimentary or critical. I love cycling, too, so I'm looking forward to being in this forum (my first one!) Thanks for listening, and happy trails to those of you who are riding through the winter. Maybe after living in Vermont for a couple more years I'll be tough enough to commute to work in the snow!

KnottedYet

12-29-2006, 11:07 AM

Many of us have the cycling knickers! I wear them or my Terry Precision skorts when I ride. If I ever decided to go to a pair of plain shorts again, I'd buy the Ibex shorts.

The jerseys are too expensive for me. I don't buy jerseys anyway, because I need long sleeves all the time and because they are too much money to spend on a "single use" thing.

My usual cycling top is my Ibex Norgie long sleeve crew. If it's really hot I just wear a tank-top with my long sleeved SPF shirt (Kokatat) over it. I would love to be able to get the athletic-style Ibex tank top again, with built-in bra.

Shagge - go through the entire "apparel" forum, there are many other discussions of wool clothing.

And the wool-weenies will be HAPPY to bend your ear! Sizing! Colors! Styles! We are your ideal test market: active, opinionated, and erudite!

Knot-6-Ibex-pieces-and-counting

KnottedYet

12-29-2006, 11:20 AM

*Woolweenies Ibex Alert*

http://www.altrec.com/search/?words=ibex&brand=IBE&redir=1

Roaster boxers (and other stuff) on sale and FREE SHIPPING!

(many thanks to Toni, who sent me the alert!:D )

Shagge

12-29-2006, 11:54 AM

Thanks KnottedYet! "Active, opinionated, and erudite"--sounds like my kind of crowd! I was going to say you all seemed "fit, smart, and savvy" before, but I was being shy. Since my last post I did poke around in the "Apparel" forum a bit more and saw several more conversations about wool-while-cycling. I felt a little silly for missing those before, but hopefully I'm getting with the program now. Thanks for helping me navigate.

The Norgie is a good choice for cool weather cycling, especially since you're trying to be smart with your $ and buy clothing that works for other activities and occasions (though I have kept my Serrano on all day long because I actually think it's quite stylish and super comfy).

This is the Ibex I wear on the bike, in case anyone is curious.

In the summer: Asta Sport Top (with shelf bra). Oh, and here's some good news--we're working on a "seamless" merino line of underwear (sports bras, tops, briefs, runner shorts, and even thongs!) that will kick the Asta's *** (imo).:p

Also in the summer, I wear the Peregrine tank top and the La Luna (not at the same time). I don't have the shorts yet because my friend in the design department tells me the fit will be much improved next season (we had some issues before, but we've worked them out).

In the fall: Serrano top (longsleeve). Mine has a half-zip but the newer version is full-zip. Mine also has two diagonal zip pockets in back, which are great for keys, goo, an energy bar, cell phone, etc. One disadvantage of pockets in this fabric is that the pockets stretch out if you load them with heavy stuff (but it springs back when you wash the jersey). The Serrano fabric, by the way, is similar in weight and feel to the Norgie, so it gives the same amount of warmth, breathablity, and comfort.

Also in the fall, I wear the El Fitos. I absolutely love these, especially because they don't make my skin feel suffocated like lycra does.

In the winter (before I whimp out) I wear a Woolies Zip-T baselayer top under my Serrano. If I need some wind blocking or if it's rainy, I wear my Floe Vest (wool softshell) or my Neve Jacket (we aren't making this any more, and I'm sad about that. I think it rocks, for teleskiing too, but we just weren't selling enough.)

Oh, and I can't forget the Meru Hat. We give these away when we sponsor cycling events, and people rave and rave about them. They are great under helmets.

It sounds like most of you live in warmer climes (am I wrong?), but if you do any cycling in frigid temps, our Loden Gloves and Kilometer Gloves do a good job keeping your digits warm.

My husband and I rode the Great Divide a few years ago, before we re-discovered wool, and I swear we would have been much happier (and less smelly) campers had we traded in our plastic layers for wool ones.

Anyway, I've probably gone on too long. Send me your sizing, color, and style suggestions, and I'll forward them along to our head designer. She'll LOVE hearing your feedback!

KnottedYet

12-29-2006, 12:03 PM

Wool underwear! YES YES YES!!!!! (just make sure those shorts have long legs so they don't creep around...;) )

I can hardly wait! Wool underwear tops... mmmmm. Wool underwear shorts... mmm

I love my Roaster Boxers, don't mind the seams. You won't stop making them, will you?

Ibex sizes work peachy for me (Large in everything, tops and bottoms, and the sleeves are LONG enough, which is always a real treat!) But I know some of the other TE'rs have sizing issues.

(hey, does Ibex need a rep in Seattle? :) )

Shagge

12-29-2006, 12:11 PM

No, we'll keep making the Roasters as long as people keep buying them! The seamless pieces will be lighter weight than the Roasters.

Long sleeves are an Ibex specialty. Cyclists and nordic skiiers generally love this, but others (I hear) have to roll up cuffs on occasion.

What are some other sizing issues amongst the TE'rs?

Shagge

12-29-2006, 12:12 PM

Oh, and we already have a rep in Seattle! :)

KnottedYet

12-29-2006, 12:20 PM

Oh, and we already have a rep in Seattle! :)

bummer..... :(
;)

KnottedYet

12-29-2006, 12:35 PM

Title 9 sale time, too! (aren't we glad I only worked a half day today?)

Smartwool stuff is on sale.

Also some wool sweaters, including this one for you size M gals:
http://www.titlenine.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1365&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=590&iSubCat=669&iProductID=1365

(Shagge- don't let Ibex stuff get as flimsy as Smartwool, ok?)

DebW

12-29-2006, 01:09 PM

This is the Ibex I wear on the bike, in case anyone is curious.

Also in the fall, I wear the El Fitos. I absolutely love these, especially because they don't make my skin feel suffocated like lycra does.

Shagge, what is the chamois/pad like in the El Fitos? They got a rave review on the adventurecycling site.

I'm hungry for feedback, ideas, suggestions, etc., so I'll be on the lookout for wool-for-cycling related thoughts, be they complimentary or critical.

Well, since you asked, why are women's T-shirts made with such short arms? I find that I get chafed in the upper arms while paddling or hiking with poles if the short sleeves aren't long enough. So I mostly wear either men's or unisex T-shirts. I picked up a women's Agate T on sale and really wish the sleeves were longer. Also wish it didn't have the extra piping fabric on top of the shoulders because that could be irritating under pack straps. I know I could have gotten a Qu T in mens and avoided these problems, but it wasn't on sale, and I never know if men's small or medium will fit better.

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-29-2006, 03:22 PM

Welcome Shagge!
(and thanks Knot for alerting me to the new Woolweenie action flurry!) ;)

I would be too embarrassed to admit how much Ibex stuff I have "invested" in this year.

Just today, DH and I went on a 35 mile, almost 4 hour ride in 31degrees F.
Here's what I wore, from head to foot:
-Louis Garneau junior balaclava
-SmartWool helmet liner
-Helmet
-Underarmour sport bra
-Ibex woolies base layer (longsleeve)
-SmartWool crewneck LS base layer
-Salvation Army thick merino turtleneck
-SheBeest WindPro jacket
-polarfleece liner gloves
-Ibex Climawool gloves
-Shebeest long Tech Tights w/chamois
-Ibex Approach tights
-Smartwool knee socks
-very thick hi-tech hiking socks
-Thinsulate heavy hiking boots

At the end of our ride, I was not tired, but my fingers were much colder than I would have liked, and my toes were very painfully cold. Other than that, I was fine! :p

You asked for Ibex suggestions, here are mine:

I got Approach tights on sale this xmas for my 2 grown daughters & one "daughter-in-love"- they all LOVE them! I am addicted to my Approach tights- I wear them when cycling and when not cycling. :p They feel so good against the skin, and I love that they are thick. I did get an "Amelia" LS Ibex top on sale, I like the shape but I think it is just too see-through. Good for sleeping in I guess.

I would like to see your colors change more frequently.
Also, your "weekly special" has been the Neve jacket for what seems like Forever. :cool:
I don't buy "jerseys" per se- I find short sleeves very unflattering on me. I always wear either longsleeve, 3/4 sleeve, or tank tops (no sleeves). I like wearing regular merino tops for cycling- not specifically "cycling jerseys".
I too would like to see some more underwear from Ibex. Especially tank tops with built in bra shelf and SKINNY straps so they don't show at the neckline.
I wish there were more color choices for the Woolies line. I also would like to see more turtlenecks or mockturtlenecks WITHOUT zippers. There IS such a thing as having too many tops with zippers, zippers are not "cuddly". ;)
I love my Switchback pullovers and vest. I got them in Persimmon because they would be visible to traffic on the road.
Thanks for asking!!!

mimitabby

12-29-2006, 08:47 PM

boy, this thread is getting expensive for me to read!
you guys have excellent comments for the Ibex rep.
my main gripe is here i have all these nice wool things and
a yucky bra that holds in the cold underneath.
sounds like this is going to change!

KnottedYet

12-29-2006, 09:04 PM

Dianyla

12-29-2006, 10:29 PM

Bad JuJu

12-30-2006, 06:09 AM

Hey, Shagge.
Two words: Plus Sizes. (Or at least an XXL, for those of us who are *ahem* working our way down.)
Thanks for asking.:)

BleeckerSt_Girl

12-30-2006, 07:52 AM

2. Make the cycling jerseys sleeveless or with cute little cap sleeves. Longish sleeves don't show off my nice girly muscles, they just make my arms look pudgy.

3. Wool bras (real bras, with underwires, in big boob sizes) and undies (prefer thong but could settle for bikini).

That is all. :p

Yeah, I second that suggestion for both sleeveless and little cap sleeves.

And bras...but my bra needs are for NO underwires, and in small boob sizes! ;)

And wool bikini underwear or just high-rise briefs....YEAH!

Velobambina

12-30-2006, 07:59 AM

Great sale going on at pendelton (www.pendleton-usa.com). Not athletic clothes, but lots of good stuff for wool afficianos.

KnottedYet

12-30-2006, 10:01 AM

*Pendleton's sale has a buffalo-plaid (blue and black) queen sized blanket for $100.*

Shagge - could Ibex offer things in petite length, but keep making the long length, too? I have a terrible time finding things that are long enough in the legs and arms, and just adore the fact that Ibex Large fit me perfectly. For example: Dianyla could use a knicker with shorter legs, but if all the knickers had shorter legs I would weep bitter tears.

Maybe try offering petites in a few basics and see how they sell?

And I've heard the call for XXL Ibex several times. Again, maybe a few carefully chosen (by the wool-weenies, of course!;) ) basics and see how they sell?

The women's market is out there. Look at how well Terry does with their signature bike short offered in 3 lengths for each size. Or Columbia with their basic chino styles each offered in 3 lengths for each size. Hind running pants, offered in lengths for each size.

Women want and need the length options just as much as men do. If Ibex had a little sub-specialty going on with lengths it could be pretty popular among the talls-and-smalls.

Edit: wool is on the upswing of popularity again, and more companies are throwing wool into the works. Ibex could have another selling point besides wool and Ibex's great quality: multiple sizes/lengths for women!

madscot13

12-31-2006, 10:53 PM

Shagge,
I would love to love Ibex but I can't- the sizes are never right. I am 5'2 and 115. Everything is too big/loose on me. It may seem vain, but I am proud of my figure and I would like to show it off. I tried the long trail sweater and the switchback zip but they were too big for me. Its not just the very long sleeves, they were too big even when I was excessively layering. I know these sweaters are meant to be looser but I could have fit a beach ball under there.

I was sad to return the long trail sweater it seemed pretty warm and I liked the colors (moon blue), but it had to go. Besides loose clothing to me seems like a hazard. You can't row with it. It gets caught in things. You can;t bike in it. It is too flappy. You can't ski with it. It is too hard to layer over the folds of extra cloth.

I wish that Ibex would carry more xs sizes and petite. Oh and bring back the ultimate guide sweater in those sizes- that would be great.

I don't wear jerseys because I think it would be such an investment when I only bike in half hour chunks. I don't even know what I am missing. I wear an rei wool zip (bought in that short period when they carried it) and that makes me pretty happy. Also when I am done biking I can just roll in to school without changing my outfit.

Please do what you can so i can wear Ibex!

wavedancer

01-01-2007, 09:10 AM

Another vote here for wool sports bra, shelf bra camis. I hate to wear a clammy next-to-skin layer under my merino!

Quillfred

01-01-2007, 11:44 AM

Another vote here for 2XL. I would have bought the El Fito except it was already snug, and being wool and all.....

Grog

01-01-2007, 05:20 PM

Hi Shagge and welcome to TE, thanks for reading us!

I am with Madscot. I am currently wearing the Ultimate Guide Sweater and love it dearly. However it's the only piece of Ibex clothing that has fitted me so far. I have bought the cycling shorts last year along with a jersey, and they were not for my body shape (5'4" and 120 lbs or so). I have hips and thighs (but barely boobs) but I would have needed a tummy to fit in there. Maybe a XS would have worked. I was quite disappointed as the material is exceptional, and the chammy seemed quite good.

I was at REI in Seattle last week (I live in Canada) and tried the lovely full-zip hoodie (Carrie) in small and it was also way too big. I usually wear a medium or small in typical REI sizes.

From what I've read I think we need more sizes to reflect the diversity of our bodies. I understand it might be difficult for a small company!!

Thanks for reading!

mariposa

01-01-2007, 10:43 PM

Yes!

Wool sports bras,
Wool camis with shelf bra, and
Wool underwear (normal sized, not with the 'legs')

So hard to find these types of things.

Shagge

01-02-2007, 08:13 AM

Shagge, what is the chamois/pad like in the El Fitos?

It's a 3D, seamless chamois with stretch nylon panel. I find it a bit heftier than other chamois I've worn, but it's super comfortable on the bike and it doesn't move around too much.

Well, since you asked, why are women's T-shirts made with such short arms?

The Agate T did have shorter, cap sleeves, and the piping is a style feature. I would not necessarily recommend this shirt for backpacking because of the these features. Last spring we introduced the Echo T for both men and women, and this shirt has slightly longer sleeves. It is made of the same 17.5 micron merino as the Agate, so it will feel just as comfortable and light.

Thanks for the questions!

Shagge

01-02-2007, 08:33 AM

[QUOTE=Lisa S.H.;156161]Welcome Shagge!

Thanks for your welcome and for all your great suggestions Lisa S.H! No need to be embarrassed by your Ibex investments (but of course I would say that, right?) I have made note of all your suggestions to pass along to design/production. Also, I will find out what's going on with the specials. I know that they are now called "web specials" because (as you noticed) we haven't been offering a different one each week.

Would you like to see more bright colors (for visibility sake) in our Woolies, or do you wear your Woolies as a baselayer only?

I also wanted to point out that we have a new and improved version of the Approach Tight now--it's called the Energy TIght and it uses the same material but has a revised fit (lower rise) and ankle zips.

Shagge

01-02-2007, 08:38 AM

Hey Shagge - I want 2 more pair of Roaster Boxers. I can get 'em from Altrec for $30 each right now. If they are likely to go on sale at Ibex for a similar price, I can wait. (does Ibex make more money if I get 'em from the Ibex outlet or from Altrec?) Any hints to help me plan my shopping? ;)

Hi KnottedYet,

If you found a deal at Altrec, go for it. I appreciate your offer to buy directly, but we do like to support our dealers as well. It's all good for us!

Thanks for your support.

Shagge

Shagge

01-02-2007, 08:46 AM

Shagge, my Ibex wishlist includes:

1. Make the cycling knickers shorter for us petite gals. The end of the El Fito tights hits me right on the widest part of the calf, instead of somewhere between the knee and the bulge of the calf.

Noted. Will pass this along!

2. Make the cycling jerseys sleeveless or with cute little cap sleeves. Longish sleeves don't show off my nice girly muscles, they just make my arms look pudgy.

Check out this jersey: http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=671&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/2027_5275.jpg&Category=1050&CategoryLine=
The sleeves are a bit shorter and tighter than the sleeves on our other cycling jerseys. We make a sleeveless jersey (the Ventoux) for men that may work for you?

3. Wool bras (real bras, with underwires, in big boob sizes) and undies (prefer thong but could settle for bikini).

Wool underwire bras? Now there's an idea! THe thong will be along before too long!

That is all. :p

Muchas gracias!

Shagge

Shagge

01-02-2007, 08:53 AM

Hey, Shagge.
Two words: Plus Sizes. (Or at least an XXL, for those of us who are *ahem* working our way down.)
Thanks for asking.:)

Noted! We are hoping to offer more petite and plus sizes in the future. We appreciate the suggestion JuJu!

Shagge

01-02-2007, 09:11 AM

Shagge,
I would love to love Ibex but I can't- the sizes are never right. I am 5'2 and 115.

Please do what you can so i can wear Ibex!

Hi Madscot13,

Have you given the Shak a try? It's a more form-fitting garment than the Long Trail, Switchback, and Ultimate Guide, and also one of our most popular because of its flattering fit and bomb-proof merino fabric. I think the Shak would be a better bet for activities like rowing and cycling than the more traditional sweater pieces (Long Trail, Ultimate Guide). It comes in half-zip, full-zip, and hooded versions.

http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=604&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/617_7722.jpg&Category=1045&CategoryLine=

As you can see from other recent posts, we have a challenge here at Ibex to build garments that will work for women (and men) of all shapes and sizes. We're still a small company, so we have to pick and choose which garments to offer in a wider size range. You all can help us make those choices, though we do have to be confident that they will sell before we build 'em.

You can also search by size on our website by typing in, say, XS, in the search box. http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/Sizing_Search.php
I wonder if an XS vest would work for you?

Thanks Madscott13 and all the other wool fans for your suggestions on Ibex sizing!

mimitabby

01-02-2007, 09:28 AM

[QUOTE=Lisa S.H.;156161]Welcome Shagge!

Thanks for your welcome and for all your great suggestions Lisa S.H! No need to be embarrassed by your Ibex investments (but of course I would say that, right?) I have made note of all your suggestions to pass along to design/production. Also, I will find out what's going on with the specials. I know that they are now called "web specials" because (as you noticed) we haven't been offering a different one each week.

Would you like to see more bright colors (for visibility sake) in our Woolies, or do you wear your Woolies as a baselayer only?

I love colors! remember, even the shyer of us like wearing bright colored undergarments. I can't stand beige, and if i have any of it, i wear it begrudgingly because it's nice material. if i ever have a choice though, i go for more color.

Shagge

01-02-2007, 09:45 AM

I have bought the cycling shorts last year along with a jersey, and they were not for my body shape

We did have some trouble with the sizing of our Classica Road Shorts, but the new version (the Calais, available this spring) has an improved fit and a lighter weight fabric.

But I've added your general sizing comments to my "list" for production and will pass them along! Thanks.

BleeckerSt_Girl

01-02-2007, 10:21 AM

[QUOTE=Shagge;157104]

I love colors! remember, even the shyer of us like wearing bright colored undergarments. I can't stand beige, and if i have any of it, i wear it begrudgingly because it's nice material. if i ever have a choice though, i go for more color.

YEP, more bright colors!
I like the persimmon because cars can see me when I ride better. I would LOVE to see a nice rich yellow MANGO color! And maybe a bright spring LETTUCE green. Beautiful bright BLUEBIRD color! And rich TOMATO! I would wear these colors not only biking, but I like to sleep in my Woolies, and I love to layer rich colors for every day wear too.
Imagine a MANGO camisole-bra with a LETTUCE crew neck woolie over it....YUM!!!! TOMATO red wool tights, anyone?
(I'm getting hungry here....)

madscot13

01-02-2007, 10:46 AM

Hey Shagge,
Thanks for finding this forum and being so great. I really like the way you reswpond to keep us happy and your generous answers. It is not often that we get a voice (or maybe that is just me) but it would be great if even half of these requestes were looked into (the extended sizes being in that half).
Besides that stay in the forum and post your own likes and dislikes about clothing apparell. Afterall you are an OFFICIAL WOOL WEENIE.

Trek420

01-05-2007, 06:24 AM

So it's a mens t'shirt, so are all my other t'shirts :rolleyes: I might have to get:

http://www.steepandcheap.com/?id=dWi2pwJ4

DebW

01-05-2007, 06:45 AM

So it's a mens t'shirt, so are all my other t'shirts :rolleyes: I might have to get:

http://www.steepandcheap.com/?id=dWi2pwJ4

Dri-Release wool: 88% polyester, 12% Merino wool. But for $12.74, what's not to like?

SouthernBelle

01-05-2007, 07:02 AM

I bought a wool blend, long sleeve T from S&C awhile back that I really love. I posted about it.

cosc

01-05-2007, 07:46 AM

I grudgingly sent back the cobalt ibex cirque softshell I ordered. Thank you, Shagge, for listening to our suggestions for more wonderful wool garments. The softshell was light, wind resistant w/ climalite, and fit well except for a big neck. I could of dealt with that but the blue was not visually bright enough for road riding. Please, more bright colors!

mtbdarby

01-05-2007, 10:33 AM

Someone please take away my plastic - I got 2 of the tshirts this morning:eek:

alforfun

01-06-2007, 07:29 AM

Did anyone get or is thinking of getting the Ibex Dash Hybrid jacket that is on special??? It looks very nice for cycling in cold weather....even though ibex states it is for cross country skiing and running. I am very tempted.....

Trek420

01-06-2007, 08:16 AM

Someone please take away my plastic - I got 2 of the tshirts this morning:eek:

Noooo, Dar you need to keep the plastic just in case your next date invites you out...and asks you to pay. :) :rolleyes: :cool:

Bikingmomof3

01-06-2007, 10:44 AM

Noooo, Dar you need to keep the plastic just in case your next date invites you out...and asks you to pay. :) :rolleyes: :cool:

ROTFL........

KnottedYet

01-06-2007, 10:53 AM

ROTFL........

(can you see why I am so crazy in love with that woman?)

Ibex Dash Hybrid
http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=602&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/2241_2580.jpg&Category=&CategoryLine=
Unfortunately my credit card is (literally) maxed out, or I'd be getting that jacket in black RIGHT THIS VERY MOMENT!!!!

I was so bummed when the Breakaway disappeared, but now I am happy again. Except that I can't get the jacket... and it's even in black like I really want. <Knot suffers mightily>

Edit: Ohmigawd! The back logo is REFLECTIVE!!!!!! <Knot suffers even more and wonders what she can sell to get $$ for a new Ibex jacket>

Bikingmomof3

01-06-2007, 10:56 AM

(can you see why I am so crazy in love with that woman?)

Absolutely! :D

Ibex Dash Hybrid
http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=602&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/2241_2580.jpg&Category=&CategoryLine=
Unfortunately my credit card is (literally) maxed out, or I'd be getting that jacket in black RIGHT THIS VERY MOMENT!!!!

Sweet jacket. I feel your pain. The carpet fiasco on 2006-2007 has set me back a good year. *sob*

alforfun

01-06-2007, 12:26 PM

Why is it everytime I look at the "apparel" thread I end up spending money??? This has got to stop....I DO need a 12 step program, not for just wool, but for internet stores in general. It is just too damn easy to spend, spend, spend. Don't even have to get up off the chair.

Just came back from cycling with my smart wool socks, and smartwool half zip top....they do such a great job keeping you comfortable but not sweaty. Just such a comfortable feel. Good thing that they don't smell as DH and I only have one top each. Anyway all during the ride in today's lovely 70 degree weather I could hear that Dash Hybrid jacket calling me. And it will get colder this winter, right??? So.....ordered the Dash Hybrid jacket from Ibex for me in that lovely red, and one for DH in black. (black matches all his other very black cycling clothes). After all, we don't have any nice jackets like that for active type sports, and it is such a great price.....

Is there help to be found??

SouthernBelle

01-06-2007, 12:44 PM

It was very lucky that jacket does not come in orange as I'm already suffering from plastic abuse.

Why is that all the women's stuff is in girly colors?

BleeckerSt_Girl

01-06-2007, 01:28 PM

Is there help to be found??

Alice, just go back to page 1 of this thread and re-read the 12 steps. I feel you wavering. Remember...one wool at a time.

BleeckerSt_Girl

01-06-2007, 01:33 PM

It was very lucky that jacket does not come in orange as I'm already suffering from plastic abuse.

Why is that all the women's stuff is in girly colors?

Personally I would never order the pale blue...reminds me of "suburban/ShipN'Shore/JCPenny". And black is cool, but not so great for biking and being seen in traffic.
I dream of MANGO yellow and bright Spring Lettuce Green! :cool: :D

KnottedYet

01-06-2007, 02:44 PM

With the miracle of the PI whisper vest in screaming lime yellow, I can wear any color wool I fancy and still be seen. (darn vest is an enabler, I tell you!)

Now if only I had some latitude left on my credit card... sigh

alforfun

01-06-2007, 03:33 PM

Lisa--I don't think you are really helping here with those 12 steps.....except to get us to buy more wool!!! Hmmm....

pooks

01-06-2007, 04:54 PM

Well those Ibex Approach sale tights got here and they are AWESOME!
So nice and thick and stretchy-

And here I'd promised myself not to buy any new cycling gear in January....

But I needed the long tights. Just ordered 'em. Thanks for the heads up. All they have left are L and XL, if anybody else is interested.

pooks

01-06-2007, 05:09 PM

And add my voice to --

MORE PLUS SIZES.

MORE BRIGHT COLORS!

Of course I love purples, burnt oranges, golds/yellows. But we definitely need color!

mtbdarby

01-08-2007, 08:28 AM

Noooo, Dar you need to keep the plastic just in case your next date invites you out...and asks you to pay. :) :rolleyes: :cool:

Very funny woman!:p If I'm gonna put down some plastic for a nice dinner I think I'd rather take some girlfriends...

Looeez

01-08-2007, 04:15 PM

Does anyone have the IceBreaker Tech T-shirt? You can see it here: http://www.icebreaker.com/site/icebreaker_woman_superfine190_tech_t.html

I'm wondering what the sizing or rather the fit is like? Are they pretty snug and fitted? Going by the info on their website I would be a Small but I'm usually more of a medium so I'm a bit worried about ordering the small.

Thanks!

KnottedYet

01-08-2007, 07:30 PM

I have an Icebreaker Tech Top zip-t neck. http://www.icebreaker.com/site/icebreaker_woman_bodyfit260_tech_top.html?thumb_value=Black It's a large, which is what I wear in just about every brand including Ibex (my gold standard). The tech top is about as fitted on me as on the model in the picture, maybe slightly looser.

If I were to order any other Icebreaker top, I'd feel pretty safe ordering a large again.

BTW, I love my Tech Top.

Looeez

01-08-2007, 09:11 PM

Thanks, that info is very helpful. I think I'll probably go for the Medium rather than the Small. I have an Ibex tshirt that I like the size of and it's a Medium too.

KnottedYet

01-09-2007, 02:45 PM

Oldest woolies in your closet?

I just realized that I'm wearing 23 year old wool tights! I bought them in 1984 at Marks and Spencer in Edinburgh.

They make peachy long underwear, but they do itch a good bit at first.

I think my next oldest wooly is my fair-isle sweater, which is probably from the late 80's. After that my Swanni from 1991.

KnottedYet

01-09-2007, 02:49 PM

oh, dang.

I just paid my cc down enough that i *could* get this vision of loveliness:
http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=602&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/2241_2580.jpg&Category=&CategoryLine=

but I neeeeeeed the space on the card to buy airline tickets to see another vision of loveliness!

someone buy my massage table or my diamond ring, quick!

KnottedYet

01-09-2007, 02:54 PM

mimitabby

01-09-2007, 03:00 PM

my oldest woolies are from the 80's but i bought them second hand, so I'm not sure.

I went to Value Village this weekend expecting to find all sort of marvellous things but i was sadly mistaken. THey had UGLY stuff.

KnottedYet

01-09-2007, 03:02 PM

mimitabby

01-09-2007, 03:03 PM

Now that the storm has started (gee, what great timing!) I'm gonna walk down to the pawn shop down the street and see what they'd give me for my old diamond engagement/wedding set.

I waaaaaaant another Ibex.... waaaaaaant!

Tell me about it. I was all ready to ride my bike to t he mechanix.
Now I am accepting a ride from a coworker. 40mph sustained winds are not my idea of a fun ride in the rain~!

KnottedYet

01-09-2007, 04:02 PM

Bummer. Shop won't even give me enough to buy an Ibex.

Guess I'll have to try another shop. Poopy.

BleeckerSt_Girl

01-09-2007, 04:11 PM

Bummer. Shop won't even give me enough to buy an Ibex....Poopy.

Ibex are more precious than diamonds.

Looeez

01-09-2007, 04:11 PM

Oldest woolies in your closet?

I just realized that I'm wearing 23 year old wool tights! I bought them in 1984 at Marks and Spencer in Edinburgh.

Are they the M&S Wool tights with feet? If so I have a couple pairs of those from just a slightly later vintage! I hadn't thought of them in ages and must dig them out tonight.

I've always been a fan of natural fibres but I was completely unaware of clothing brands like Ibex, IceBreaker, Smartwool etc until reading this forum. It's a slippery slope - I bought an Arcteryx merino tshirt and loved it. After reading posts on merino tights I bought Ibex tights (a discontinued style I think - called Rendezvous?) and now an Icebreaker tshirt.

DebW

01-09-2007, 04:36 PM

my oldest woolies are from the 80's but i bought them second hand, so I'm not sure.

I've got woolies from the 70s. A LS Protogs T-shirt. Stil-long long underwear pants. A wool balaclava. Wool Dachstein mittens. Wool fishnet underwear. Some of the old stuff has moth holes.

My Stil-long underwear is the dark blue men's with fly. The women's only came with stirrups under the feet and in powder blue.

mimitabby

01-09-2007, 04:36 PM

Bummer. Shop won't even give me enough to buy an Ibex.

Guess I'll have to try another shop. Poopy.

Ebay?? Try Ebay, there are lots of people buying and selling jewelry there.

pooks

01-10-2007, 07:43 PM

Is anybody familiar with this brand? Prices sure are low:

http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/page/page/3163257.htm

KnottedYet

01-10-2007, 07:54 PM

yeah, I think someone mentioned it a few pages back. Sounded like the quality was less than adequate.

pooks

01-10-2007, 07:56 PM

Good!

I'm not tempted, then!

margo49

01-11-2007, 04:33 AM

[QUOTE=KnottedYet;159319]Oldest woolies in your closet?

I have a hat re-knitted by my old-hiking-mate Rachel in natural black and white wools that her Auntie spun from the fleecee for a sweater that her (Rachel's) mother knitted in the 1960's
I also have a scarf (cashmere and wool) from Harrods c.1982

My newest is a lovely little almost-edible-it-is-so-sweet hat from my Jan ss.
A beautifully textured (both how it looks and how it feels) combination of st-st and reverse st st done on a circular needle. (See Thank you ss January thread)

Shagge

01-11-2007, 08:00 AM

SHAGGE - The jacket has climawool "cirrus" on the front. How does that compare in weight to the "lite" on my el Fitos? Is it a lot heavier? Is the Dash Hybrid as a whole going to be warmer than my Switchback? A little more wind resistant?

How about the fabric on the back of the Dash Hybrid? How does it compare to the Switchback or el Fitos?

I *want* this jacket, especially at $115. But it's got to be a warmer heftier more outer-wear kind of jacket than my Switchback or I just can't justify it.

Hi Again Knotted Yet,

The Climawool Cirrus material on the front of the Dash Hybrid jacket is similar in weight to the Climawool Lite on your El Fitos, but the Cirrus is more weather (wind and water) resistant. The fabric on the back more like the fabric of the El Fitos (a stretchy knit wool)

I wouldn't describe it as "heftier" than the Switchback, but it is definitely more of a performance piece and I think well worth the investment. Don't forget we are very liberal with our exchange/return policy--take it for a ride and see if it works for you!

Brandi

01-12-2007, 08:48 PM

Hi my name is Knott! I don't have a lot of wool but I am building up my stash. Got four pairs of cycling socks today. A cashmere sweater for christmas. And some other stuff. Bought my first duofold today.

jobob

01-12-2007, 09:01 PM

yeah, I think someone mentioned it a few pages back. Sounded like the quality was less than adequate.

Just curious, who said the portland cyclewear wool was less than adequate?

I'm just wondering because I have one of their jerseys on order.

- Jo.

KnottedYet

01-12-2007, 09:06 PM

Oooh, www.rei-outlet.com has a bunch of Ibex on sale 40-50% off, plus a few things have an extra 20% off if you order before midnight.

And there're Ibex Nolita and Cube jackets on sale, too. They sound nice and warm! ($136 or so)

KnottedYet

01-12-2007, 09:16 PM

Just curious, who said the portland cyclewear wool was less than adequate?

I'm just wondering because I have one of their jerseys on order.

- Jo.

On page 8 there was a brief discussion of them (starting at the top) and near the bottom Mimi posted that her dh had a bad experience with a jersey from them.

jobob

01-12-2007, 09:34 PM

Ah-ha, found it, finally. :) (I have my forum options set to view 40 posts/page so page #'s don't help me much ...)

The good news is, Portland Cyclewear just started using a new type of wool. It's still 100% merino but it's supposed to shrink a lot less.

And the bad news is, they're behind schedule on account of switching to the new wool. So it goes.

If & when I get my jersey, I'll let y'all know if it seems less prone to shrinking than their previous jerseys.

mimitabby

01-12-2007, 09:37 PM

well, for everyone's sake, i hope they have improved. it was a beautiful Jersey, but now it's too tight :D :D :D

BleeckerSt_Girl

01-13-2007, 10:12 AM

Major SCORE!! I went through one of my local thrift stores today and found TWO 100% merino soft black turtlenecks that fit me perfectly, for $10 each!!!! Woo-HOOOO! Even DH was impressed.... :D

mimitabby

01-13-2007, 10:57 AM

hmmmph i'm shopping at the wrong thrift shops.

back to housework...

KnottedYet

01-13-2007, 05:24 PM

check out everything on the website, but here are a couple highlights

zip t-neck: http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=591&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/631_1203.jpg&Category=1049&CategoryLine=

Sweater: http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=632&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/0426_1203.jpg&Category=1046&CategoryLine=#

Dash tights: http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=600&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/2184_8990.jpg&Category=1047&CategoryLine=

DebW

01-13-2007, 06:52 PM

BleeckerSt_Girl

01-13-2007, 07:08 PM

Today I'm wearing my OR Sequence T, 12% wool, 88% polyester from Steep and Cheap for $12.74. I spent 3.5 hours in the woods in 38-42 degree temps (yes, I wore more than just the T) and it was comfortable. Sweated a bit in my Goretex rain jacket. I stink a little, but won't know until I take it off if the smell is the shirt of me. Probably me.

Hi Deb,
I have a Goretex rain biking jacket too. Paid a LOT for it. It worked well as a windbreaker/rain jacket when I was camping. But the two times I wore it on cool rainy biking rides it made me sweat like mad- I felt I was suffocating in a plastic bag. I much prefer my SheBeest Windpro jacket, which though not waterPROOF is water resistant and certainly cuts the wind. But best of all it breathes and keeps me warm and cuddly though I can still feel some air circulation. It seems to work well in many temp ranges. Very versatile for me, especially with a merino base layer or two under it.

P.S. Knot- it's interesting that the Ibex sale items found under "Special>web specials" are all different items than the sale items found under "Outlet>women's outlet".....??

I would think that 88% polyester content would definitely cause some odor though, especially under the Gortex jacket -if it's anything like my Goretex jacket! :eek:
I have had better luck when I wear a 100% merino thin base layer UNDER a polyester top so as to discourage the underarm bacteria that always multiply in polyester environs.

P.S. Knot- it's interesting that the Ibex sale items found under "Specials...web specials" are all DIFFERENT items than the sale items found under "outlet...women's outlet"....??

DebW

01-13-2007, 07:41 PM

KnottedYet

01-13-2007, 07:42 PM

I think "Outlet" is older stuff Ibex isn't making any more. Clearance type stuff.

"Specials" seem like they are current items or newly introduced items.

Trek420

01-13-2007, 07:44 PM

Today I'm wearing my OR Sequence T, 12% wool, 88% polyester from Steep and Cheap for $12.74.

I got one of those too. I like my 12% wool, 88% polyester from Steep and Cheap for $12.74 shirt. It's much better than any of my 100% polyester shirts, I may never wear those again.:)

KnottedYet

01-13-2007, 07:48 PM

I got one of those too. I like my 12% wool, 88% polyester from Steep and Cheap for $12.74 shirt. It's much better than any of my 100% polyester shirts, I may never wear those again.:)

And thus begins the addiction... a few wool blends (while making snide remarks to your nearest and dearest about how much $$ full-wool costs), but I sense 100% wool in your future, young lady!;)

DebW

01-13-2007, 07:52 PM

She's been sucked into the vortex. THERE IS NO ESCAPE.

BleeckerSt_Girl

01-13-2007, 08:10 PM

Resistance is fu-tile.

Trek420

01-13-2007, 08:24 PM

there will be no deviation...

alforfun

01-14-2007, 10:39 AM

Got the Ibex Dash Jackets last week, just didn't really get to look too closely as there was so much going on. They are not heavy, but more medium weight, but the front seems like it would be quite windproof. The back is a like a stretchy warm sweater. The L womens fit me nicely everywhere but the length, where I feel it is too short for me. I am long waisted, and also 5'8". The sleeves were long enough, the shoulders fit well, and it was not baggy. The mens is much longer, and dips more in the back, which I like. However, I tried on my husbands L, which is too baggy everywhere, but the length is lovely. So I don't know whether to try the mens medium. My husband is definitely keeping his, but I "sob" have to send the womens back. These jackets are beautiful for the money. However, if you are a tall women, I would recommend trying the mens.
Any ideas from the Ibex rep who posts here? I would appreciate it!

KnottedYet

01-14-2007, 11:15 AM

Darn, I hope Ibex isn't shortening their women's sizes! I'm 5'8" and long-armed, and wear a L in everything. Sounds like the L Dash wouldn't fit me at all!!!

Thanks for the Dash Jacket report!

alforfun

01-14-2007, 11:28 AM

I tried the dang jacket again.....I keep hoping the thing fits. Part of the problem is I have wide hips, and the jacket is riding up slightly.....looking shorter than it really is. If I pull it straight down tight it hits my high hip, and dips slightly in the back. This would be fine if it would stay, but it won't. I was just thinking maybe I should go to an XL. This is annoying, because an XL is usually huge on me.....but if the shoe fits.... I just wonder if the XL is any longer in length than the L....

pooks

01-16-2007, 06:28 AM

And here I'd promised myself not to buy any new cycling gear in January....

But I needed the long tights. Just ordered 'em. Thanks for the heads up. All they have left are L and XL, if anybody else is interested.

Just an update -- Lisa's highly recommended Ibex Approach wool tights (on sale, no less) arrived and I've been wearing them constantly since. SO warm and comfy.

Thanks for the heads up, Lisa!

KnottedYet

01-16-2007, 06:34 AM

I am sooooo bummed that I can't afford to buy anything right now! Is there a lotto just for wool weenies with a guaranteed pay-out?

mimitabby

01-16-2007, 06:40 AM

I know what you mean, Knot.. I haven't been able to buy any wool for WEEKS
because of the budget going towards other things. and now i am thinking about a frame :confused: :confused: :confused: what am I crazy? Yup crazy in love.

There was a pair of wool long johns on sale for 25 bucks at someplace like Sierra Traders right after/before Christmas (cranberry colored) that i resisted and now I am having serious regrets!
I have been wearing tights every day for a while and none of them are wool. (under my work slacks)
brrrr

BleeckerSt_Girl

01-16-2007, 10:31 AM

Just an update -- Lisa's highly recommended Ibex Approach wool tights (on sale, no less) arrived and I've been wearing them constantly since. SO warm and comfy.

Thanks for the heads up, Lisa!

Oh I'm so glad! And I'm wearing mine right NOW...
They are so comfy I wear them almost every day now whether I'm biking or not.

The only problem I have is the cat hair magnet effect of wool. But you just wet your palm and "roll" the hair down your leg into a little clump and pick it off. :D

SadieKate

01-16-2007, 11:27 AM

Anyone have both the Zephyr T-neck (http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=588&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/614_7377.jpg&Category=1049&CategoryLine=)and the Woolies T-neck (http://www.ibexwear.com/F06/View_Product.php?GarmentID=566&thePhoto=../Photos/F06/0123_5843.jpg&Category=1049&CategoryLine=)?

I have the Zephyr in a medium. It fits just right for outwear but not tight enough for layering under a tailored jersey. Since the Woolies says it is a form fit, do you think I can order the same size and have it truly be formfitting without being clautrophobically tight? Does the arm length change? I need long arms in my cycle clothing.

I wish they made the Zephyr in a form fit because the weight would be just perfect under some of my jerseys. I wonder how much shorter the arms would be in a small.