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hellosunshine
09-11-2006, 12:00 PM
its just dawned on me that its giving my stomach jip!AND ITS IN EVERYTHING,well,almost everything,im on day one tomorrow no diet drinks.next week im off the gum,anyone else noiced is not a hiunky dory product?


ps.thinking of you lot 9/11.must have been a tuff time.

mimitabby
09-11-2006, 12:07 PM
isn't this the one that was discovered while trying to find a food additive that would INCREASE APPETITE? it tasted so good they marketed it as a sweetener!

good luck.
I don't eat/drink any fake sweeteners either.

PAP103
09-11-2006, 12:33 PM
It gives me incredible headaches. It took me a long time to figure out what was causing them. I blamed it on nerves, anxiety, and anything else you can think of. I was popping Tylenol like candy. That was about 12 years ago. Since then, I've given up diet soda and sugar free almost everything. Now I drink water and herbal tea. If I want something sweet, I for the non diet stuff.

I've read that it can give you MS symptoms too - not sure if thats true or not. But its nasty stuff.

Running Mommy
09-11-2006, 02:10 PM
I also cannot tolerate splenda. My tummy just does not like that stuff! :confused:

hellosunshine
09-12-2006, 03:25 AM
yeah!if it was a bloke id dump him:)

spokewench
09-12-2006, 11:00 AM
No, No, and No. I don't believe in putting fake stuff in my body! Besides it all tastes horrible!

I don't do any light sugared products (they all have the fake sugars in them)

I try not to eat or drink too much sugar, but when I do, it is the real thing

We are what we eat. I really believe that obesity in our world is cauesd by all these pre-packaged pre-prepared foods, these light products, these fake products. Make your own stuff - yes it takes more time but it is an investment in your HEALTH. There is almost nothing more important than your health!

Just remember what you eat is what fuels you to go fast on the bike. Sugar is an empty calorie so remember to try to eat calories that contain nutrition in them. It's okay to have the occassional coke or ice cream or beer but just remember that they are the treats and not the norm. You need to get your calories from good, unadulterated food prepared by you!

Hope I haven't insulted anyone but I'm pretty passionate about this

The Spokewench

KnottedYet
09-12-2006, 09:07 PM
Aspertame/Nutrasweet makes me terribly ill. It gave my mom the MS symptoms and had her doc thinking her nervous system was collapsing. It also makes SKnot sick.

So I'm guessing there's a genetic tendency to non-tolerance of Aspertame.

I eat SUGAR when I want something sweetened.

Deep fat fried salted SUGAR is best! (no, really, I eat real sugar and everything is fine. Only 16 calories per teaspoon, and it fuels you for the bike. What's not to love? Just be sure you do ride the bike, and brush and floss your teeth.)

MomOnBike
09-13-2006, 05:48 AM
I've never trusted artificial sweeteners. They seem like an easy answer to All Your Dieting Problems. In my experience, most easy answers are wrong.

I've also noticed that the people who drink "diet" products tend to be overwieght. Hmmm... :confused: :confused:

And don't even get me started on the people who make cole slaw with whipping cream and Splenda as main dressing ingredients. :mad:

No, Spokewench is right. Natural foods (in moderate quantities) are best.

hellosunshine
09-13-2006, 10:31 AM
That Sign In Japan,i Keep Re Reading It!what Are They On!!!!!!????????


Halo Shines,went To Supermarket,duno What You Guys Call It,plain Yog,no Diet Drinks,no Diet Beans,even Bought Some Lemons For My Water,oh!so My Place Is Secure In Heaven.


Cravings Today.big Time.fighting.

Fredwina
09-13-2006, 11:17 AM
http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=6796&highlight=engrish

Geonz
09-13-2006, 01:15 PM
Aspartame makes me veryhappily hyper (which I tend to be anyway)... and then I *crash.*
There's all kinds of scary stuff on the INternet about it... so it's hard to sift the conspiracy theories from sensible stuff, but hey, it is *known* to become toxic at certain temperatures, and frankly, our regulatory agencies are no longer trustworthy. Who was paying for the research deeming that stuff "safe?" Gosh, maybe institutions receiving large donations from companies who would benefit from that deeming.
We are so inconsistent about how we look at "risks." If you're going to put a helmet on your head because of the relatively small risk of crashing, then it doesn't make sense that you'd put dubious chemicals in your body **every day**...

... and I also agree with the idea that "the easy way" and the shortcuts... well, they just tend to have costs down the line. I'll take my pear shape and struggles with whittling it down. I'm not really a Calvinist... I do like fun...

hellosunshine
09-15-2006, 12:43 AM
still cravings BUT IM 100% LESS BLOATED!wow!!!cutting it out slowly,im very tired and faint though,drinking loadsa water,will it be some kind of withdrawal even though is a tiny tiny poison compared to caffine?

hellosunshine
10-19-2006, 04:01 AM
isn't this the one that was discovered while trying to find a food additive that would INCREASE APPETITE? it tasted so good they marketed it as a sweetener!

good luck.
I don't eat/drink any fake sweeteners either.

RIGHT!OH SOSOSO PURE,WOW IVE NOT HAD A FIZZY DRINK SINCE I STARTED THIS THREAD AND NOW,DONT I FEEL SO GODDESS LIKE!!!!!BUT 3rd DAY NO CHEWING GUM,AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW I HAVE "BOUNCE" I HAVE NO SUGAR CRAVINGS WHATSEOEVER,HOW VERY VERY ODD..........


AND JSUT TO PROVE HOW BORING IVE BECOME,PLAIN YOGS,THE LOT

Geonz
10-19-2006, 05:29 AM
I don't believe caffeine is a poison at all... any more than salt is.

KnottedYet
10-19-2006, 05:54 AM
caffeine is my friend...

Aspartame, however, makes me sick. Thought I could get away with half-pieces of gum at work (cuz gotta keep the breath fresh and i was eating a ton of cinnamon Altoids). Ooops. No can do. So I guess if it makes you sick, even a little will still make you sick.

Dogmama
10-21-2006, 04:09 AM
I understand that aspartame is a great ant killer.

In March, a paper was published showing that aspartame ingestion in rats caused numerous cancerous changes:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16507461&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum

If you don't want to read the science - check out the last sentence (APM=aspartame:)

"The results of this mega-experiment indicate that APM is a multipotential carcinogenic agent, even at a daily dose of 20 mg/kg body weight, much less than the current acceptable daily intake. On the basis of these results, a reevaluation of the present guidelines on the use and consumption of APM is urgent and cannot be delayed."

Consider this:

Aspartame is made by Monsanto. Monsanto gives millions to fund re-election campaigns. Ever wonder why stevia, which is a natural sweetener the comes from a plant, isn't in our soft drinks, etc? Thank Monsanto. The above referenced paper was a result of lab work in Italy. I don't think that the U.S. would fund such a study.

BTW, Ethoxyquin, a common preservative in pet foods, is poison. http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/ET/ethoxyquin.html That's why I make my dog's food.

latelatebloomer
10-21-2006, 04:30 AM
The holistic physicians' clinic I use put out a notice recommending that patients stop use of Splenda & all other artificial sweetners, saying something to the effect that, "we never thought we'd say this, but we'd even prefer you use white sugar over the artificial sweeters." The main concern was neurological effects. Diabetic patients were encouraged to use stevia.

roadie gal
11-03-2006, 09:51 AM
How safe can it be to ingest a neurotransmitter? Aspartame is part of a brain chemical. Who wants to mess with your brain chemicals?

Actually, after saying that I must admit that I will allow myself up to 1 diet soda/ day at work only. Sometimes just water won't do it.

When I want a fizzy drink at home I mix a small amount of juice in a glass of club soda. It's not that many calories and seems to do the trick.